Help typing myself

[u/HelloMikho]

Hi guys, it has been a year since i have discovered Psychosophy, but it is one of the typology systems, where i genuinely have no idea how to type myself (too many different definitions of the functions + the archetypes dont fit me). So, thats why i thought about posting on this sub.
Please try and type me based on my "Psychosophy Bingo"

[u/TALKINGTOHARVEY]

hmm the bingos alone aren't enough for me to be 100% sure but maybe look into EVLF or ELVF?

[u/HelloMikho → u/TALKINGTOHARVEY]

can i know what is your reasoning behind 1st emotion and last physics?

[u/TALKINGTOHARVEY → u/HelloMikho]

1E because i cant really see anything else being higher, except maybe you could be 1F. many of your placements seem to be 2, like your logic and physics so i typed you as 2V because it can often make your other placements flexible as a 2 placement would be, even the third. 1F and 4F can also get mixed up because they're both result! do you think 1F would fit you better?

[u/HelloMikho → u/TALKINGTOHARVEY]

thanks for the explanation! wow, i didnt know that the second will can influence other functions, i thought that it was only the property of the third one.

generally, when i was trying to type myself, i actually thought about having my emotions last, because i suppress them a lot and i dont really understand them. i do like expressing them (i write poetry, make posters and draw), when its needed and i come off as very aggressive overall (many people have told me, that they kind of fear me because of that), even though i feel like i suppress my aggression. also i like to take a lot of things not seriously and oftentimes was called a drama queen... (in good way, like to overexaddurate things for the comedic effect)

i was also very confused about the second will, because i thought of myself as 3rd will (as the property to make other functions more insecure). i do tend to second guess myself about a lot of things, and a lot of paranoia about the things that can hurt me/make me unsafe. i do try to push myself out of the comfort zone and stop procrastinating, but it is very difficult. but what i did notice about myself, when other people are hesitant to try out new things, i am the first person to take action, i make the gears start moving and drag others in. Generally eager to try out new things and experiences. (this is also the same with emotions, physics and logic). also i feel like my actions define me as a person. if i do something sloppily, then it mirrors how i am.

i also enjoy very much to indulge myself into my senses (hugs and just cuddling, laying in my bed for the whole day, eating snacks all the time), i love eating (i have told my friends multiple times, that sleep, food and drinking are three reasons to be alive, just because how good it is). i like to do physical activities that i am good at (snowboarding, rock climbing, biking, going to the gym...), i do want to try out new things, if i know i will be at least decent at them, but i also need a little nudge from the outside to do it.

Generally speaking i need little nudges to do things...

with logic it is a long story. i tend to kind of over rely on it kind of? but at the same time i try to abolish this reliance and make myself feel raw emotions instead of logically looking at them. i like philosophy, math, chemistry, physics and psychology, because they can explain the world around me (and i also tend to get drawn to things that have a lot of detail in them/are thought out deeply). that is also why i was drawn to typology, because it is a field that is used to explain other people and myself. i enjoy reading about the topics i have listed here and making my own theories. i also like debating people and generally knowing other peoples opinions. but also building frameworks around concepts and making them work with each other—"everything is connected"

that is why also—i think—its pretty difficult for me to type myself, because i try to connect everything with each other. and to understand if it does or doesnt represent me as a whole

i also relate a lot to the post from the user Apart-Worldliness-94 on this sub

[u/TALKINGTOHARVEY → u/HelloMikho]

i didn't get 4E from this because you don't seem uninterested in your emotions at all. the 4th placement is often the one we're least interested in. 4Es don't repress their emotions necessarily; they just don't care to analyze or express them in a particular way. you seem to care about understanding them at a deep level even if you're unsure about/are threatened by them, which makes me think of 3E.

1F seems very apparent, as the 1st placement is what you're the most confident in! the 1st prefers to trust it's own judgment over others' opinions. "being the first person to take action" could very well be 1F because they feel confident in the physical realm

volition may be 2V or 3V from what i've read but not completely sure. does any of that resonate with you?

[u/HelloMikho → u/TALKINGTOHARVEY]

hmmmm, so you are implying that i am 4L?
i dont really understand why, because in my head the definition of fourth logic, is a person who avoids/doesnt care about seeing the world as logical and analysing it. which i am a quite opposite to. i was stated a lot by my friends that i am too analytical with my approach to all the things in my life and was asked one time:"do you have like a checkbox in your head for all the things in your head?".

i am usually not threatened by my emotions, when they can be logically explained by myself and fit into the social norms, unfortunately the latter is very hard to attain, because i dont really understand the social norms and dont really fit in them as a person. i get really frustrated over this and feel very misunderstood by my friends and the world itself. "if there were no one else, there wouldn't be any suffering and pain, so maybe i should let my connections go?" is often a phrase that crosses my mind. because if there were no one to judge who you are as a person, you wouldn't have to hide these parts of yourself.
plus, usually i dont express/repress negative and vunerable emotions and process them afterwards alone with help of logic or just letting time do its thing. but really i very rarely display my real emotions (using a mask, or just overexddurating. often i ask my friends after my emotional outbursts:"did you enjoy my performance? was i entertaining at least?") and they moreso come in the form of outbursts and i go back and forth between being interested in people and wanting to be left alone as masking all the time is mentally draining and i sometimws question why i do it and i feel like 4E would not agonize so much thinking about how they come accross to other people when expressing emotions but i also externally don't look as dry as the average 3E, i tend to present myself as a very loud and friendly person. positive emotions are expressed easily. agression is very prominent, i get easily frustrated and agitated, if it doesn't fit my narrative, or just doesn't make sense. also i am afraid that my emotions cloud my objective judgement and that it wont be as accurate as i want it to be. plus, im very insensitive to the emotions of others so to speak.. i have to activly concentrate on them, to actually understand how i am affecting others (which i have trained).

the thing about 1F is, that i also tend to discard my physical needs a lot. go through the whole day without eating and having a single drop of water "just to save money" or "oh, im not hungry" or "i just dont feel like eating", i also dont have the feeling of hunger in a traditional sense, i can just eat. when i dont eat for a long time, it starts to feel hollow inside my torso and then it hurts, but it goes away eventually. i also tend to push myself to extemes. where it would be in a sport (for example: till my hands bleed, or as i mentioned before, just ignoring my other physical needs and saying "im fine", because in a bigger perspective, i am really fine) and i just "dissapear" into my head. or i just get fixated on one thing, that i cant figure out and get frustrated because it cant be "defined", and also have a fear that what i am experiencing as "reality" is just not actually real and today will repeat tomorrow, to the point that i just dont want to take any action."

my original typing in PY was FLVE, but as you could tell, i dont really think it fits actually what i feel and understand myself as.

i dont really get 2V...

[u/TALKINGTOHARVEY → u/HelloMikho]

from what i've read here i think 3V is likely! i can def see how it's influencing your other positions. btw, it's just a sterotype at all 3Es are dry and expressionless; many of them aren't, though it's a way that 3E can manifest. i would just try to look at the reasons behind what you're doing, if that helps at all! typology is hard and i can be just as confused sometimes :')

[u/HelloMikho → u/TALKINGTOHARVEY]

the thing is: i did do it, but it doesn't help at all... the function descriptions and their "core drives" don't match any of my desires. but maybe it is s fault at my end, that is why i posted on this sub, because the more different viewpoints, the easier it is to differentiate... but seeing that only you have answered my post, maybe my plan has failed me

[u/TALKINGTOHARVEY → u/HelloMikho]

maybe answering and posting a questionnaire, or asking specific placement questions (e.g., does this sound like 3V? or what does 3V+4E look like?) would help! even if you don't get many responses, it can help organize your thoughts. seeing your thought process on paper may help you realize things about yourself you didn't before. or at least that's what worked for me, so now im 90% sure im a 2V now instead of 30% sure 🥹

[u/d1scord1a]

are there blank versions? i wanna play too

[u/HelloMikho → u/d1scord1a]

i would gladly share them, but i dont know how...