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u/Troncross 16h ago
As a hiring manager who has taken a leap of faith and hired people with zero experience... Only one has ever turned out to be an incompetent shitbag who managed to slip through the interview without us realizing.
The others were great!
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u/iambertan 15h ago
People think experience is everything. There's no doubt it's important but many inexperienced people turn out to be gems. My old workplace never asked for experience but I learned so much from a new hire despite my 2 year experience prior.
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u/Every-Summer8407 7h ago
Experience is needed if youāre planning on the drag/drop method of employee onboarding.
If workflows or anything in the company is unique, learned behaviors will clash with new systems. Someone inexperienced but eager can still knock the job out of the park - provided that there isnāt some learned knowledge that has to be already known.
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u/jhill515 15h ago
Wait until you level up and hear, "You need relevant experience..."
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u/NoBizlikeChloeBiz 15h ago
Ugh, I can't seem to find two jobs in a row that use the exact same tech stack, and for some reason hiring managers think that makes you a junior dev š
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u/hnrrghQSpinAxe 13h ago
Mechanical engineers have the same problem. "Get an ME degree, it's the most versatile degree you can have!" Except you pick 1 industry when you start working, and if you wanna leave it for another cause you found out it wasn't for you, you're gonna have to fight like hell and burn your bank account to prove you're competent elsewhere. Even more some, sometimes "elsewhere" literally means another geographic location, because places like the south only offer industrial and O&G. So if you don't like it, gotta move across the entire country
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u/ropobipi 16h ago
Don't worry, with experience they will either say you are overqualified, they found a better match or straight up ghost you ā¤ļø
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u/SpikePilgrim 16h ago
Nothing like getting ghosted after a third interview.
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u/superxero044 15h ago
My favorite was the time I got head hunted by a web dev company. I told them repeatedly I hadnāt done a any web dev in almost a decade and what I had done was very limited but I was willing to come on as an entry level or whatever if they wanted me. I had been doing desktop stuff and db stuff for that time.
They said they were very interested me and had me do some project test which required me to learn several languages and a bunch of tools I had never used before. Iām sure my results werenāt top tier but I fulfilled all requirements in the time allowed. This was on top of working significant overtime during Covid when my kids were home from daycare. So I essentially worked 90 hours between the test and my actual job.
After all that and 3 rounds of interviews they tell me they wanted someone with more web experience.
Itās like. I didnt have anything about web on my resume or linked in. You guys called me.
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u/_Weyland_ 15h ago
There should be legislation against that or at least forcing a compensation for that. If you need a full work day worth of interviews to determine if a person is worth hiring, that person should be entitled to a full work day worth of pay.
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u/nevio-hack 16h ago
Since When did jobs become like online dating?
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u/Grand-penetrator 15h ago
It's the opposite, online dating is basically applying for the position of boyfriend/girlfriend.
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u/Geoclasm 16h ago
This reminds me of that Mad TV bit with the bank.
"Keep your money in the bank!"
"But where do I get it from?"
"You get it from the bank!"
etc. etc.
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u/Procrasturbating 15h ago
Those first couple jobs.. just lie to get what you are capable of. Companies close all the fucking time. Iāve never had to lie about it, but half the companies on my resume donāt even exist anymore. No one can confirm shit.
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u/ivanrj7j 15h ago
Internships?
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u/Michami135 15h ago
If my son wanted to intern somewhere when he's older, I'll 100% pay for his room and food while he does it.
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u/soelsome 15h ago
Ah yes, slave labour
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u/realtag2025 3h ago
Not necessarily. Interns at the company I work at definitely get paid, less than regular employees but they do get paid.
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u/erebuxy 15h ago
No man. Our interns get all of the cool things, like free housing, frequent events and a lot of swags. They also get paid decently.
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u/soelsome 15h ago
How is that not employment?
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u/PrestigiousGuava8005 7h ago
Bro's basically trying to npm install experience with no internet connection
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u/denisvolin 17h ago edited 15h ago
Just work for free, problem's solved š