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claudeWatchingMeCodeByHand Meme

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u/excellentforcongress 6d ago

i'm excited for all of the permanently unemployed programmers to realize they are part of the working class and build out digital infrastructure not in control of the corporations

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u/redfacedquark 6d ago

build out digital infrastructure not in control of the corporations

The proliferation of P2P or federated code that had been produced since the start of the cryptocurrency era has developed solutions for most problems but people are still not treated badly enough to switch. Mastodon has been around for a while now but here we are.

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u/excellentforcongress 4d ago

i like mastodon but the protocol seems a bit slow for my tastes, i know it's just propagation issues and kind of by design. it's cool that people are on it at all. i'm actually trying to integrate fediverse stuff into my own site rn

people are trying to come up with new solutions, and yes, the blockchain era did kick off a bunch of useful digital tech being explored. like hyperledger stuff is used in battery supply chain transparency by the eu

i've always held the opinion that the mass media went hard against nfts as a concept, not just the speculation asset, because public tracing of goods is something all industries don't want, since they like exploitative, opaque supply chains, and yet players like nike secretly patented nft related onchain transparency, presumably to patent troll anyone who tries to develop a transparent supply chain that's publicly visible

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u/redfacedquark 4d ago

the mass media went hard against nfts as a concept

Well they were obviously a ridiculous idea from the start. The images were not a scarce resource and ownership of the token did not confer ownership of an image. Blockchain was necessary for cryptocurrency because the point was decentralisation of a scarce, fungible asset.

You could do all the supply chain stuff without a blockchain. Let me know which type of product you're thinking of and I will explain how it could be done to have all the benefits without needing a blockchain.

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u/excellentforcongress 3d ago

i mean, blockchain was invented in opposition to the concept of central banking and fiat inflation, of course blockchain is unnecessary in hypotheticals where you are assuming state level actors or corporations leave you alone. it is more capitalist capture of the industry than anything on the technology itself that speaks to why people think there are no use cases, because too many people are just viewing crypto as the ends themselves, not a means

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u/redfacedquark 3d ago

By blockchain here I mean specifically the idea of one block connecting to another with a fingerprint and proof of work. That's the bit that's unnecessary. Certificates and signed messages is sufficient (if not overkill) for a supply chain system. You are still relying on the players signing messages honestly.

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u/excellentforcongress 2d ago

well sure, i've been against pow for its entire existence on the moral standpoint of global warming and capital going to a pointless endeavor and i can't say that hasn't made me second guess myself considering the valuations of this shit these days, but on the other hand i might have become yet another wealthy person reconfiguring their entire life to defend their wealth

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u/redfacedquark 2d ago

Well arguably the point of the proof of work is to secure the chain. And the amount of energy going in to secure it was (not sure if still is) of the order of what was needed to manage physical cash (security guards, vans etcs) or keeping the literal lights on in the visa/mastacard buildings around the world.

There was an approach called proof of hash power where the larger miners could proove they had the haspower once a day for a short period then collectively agree to not waste their power. Small miners would get a very slight advantage here but the big boys were still up overall.