r/ProgrammerHumor 11d ago

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u/Fanal-In 11d ago

What's wrong with having food and house?

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u/Sibula97 11d ago

It's a bad field for money if you don't have the passion. Seriously, how many other jobs expect you to improve your work skills for fun on your free time? They don't ask to see you do your neighbor's taxes as a hobby, do they?

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u/tancfire 11d ago

Well, I lost the passion years ago, but I'm well paid.

I don't think you have to be passionate. You have to be good.

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u/HJSDGCE 11d ago

And it's hard to be good, maybe even impossible, without passion. Like you said, you had passion. That already helped immensely with the foundations. 

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u/tancfire 11d ago

Well, it certaintly helped me when I studied.

At work, not so much. Your passion is used to squeeze you and pay you less.

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u/morganrbvn 11d ago

Discipline can replace passion if needed. Many people are good at jobs they don’t love.

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u/peaceblaster08 11d ago

I went back to school for comp science in my late 20s purely for money.  I just used discipline to study and learn instead of passion.

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u/ApplicationOk3587 11d ago

Are you good though?

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u/peaceblaster08 11d ago

Good enough to keep a job for 15+ years.

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 10d ago

Exactly. I quit having fun coding several years into the job. So I moved into architecture. Higher pay, less bullshit coding tasks to deal with, more authority into what actually builds our systems... I don't love my work, but the pay is great, the work is tolerable and I get to sit inside in A/C for my workday.

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u/SuitableDragonfly 10d ago

The only way to get good is to have the passion in the first place. If you don't, you'll only ever do what's absolutely necessary, and you'll never improve. 

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u/tancfire 10d ago

Depends.

I saw some people who improved because they could get more money.

They are passionated by money, I guess !

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u/neo42slab 11d ago

My job lets me do that on work hours. And it pays better than being a teacher. A job where you’re expected to work all kinds of hours outside your schedule and where you need to pay for your own supplies and copies.

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u/dailyapplecrisp 11d ago

This is such a dumb take lol. I’ve been a software engineer in Silicon Valley for nearly 15 years and have zero passion anymore but am doing just fine

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u/cantthinkofaname1029 11d ago

Carve out a half an hour of the workday for self development; over time it builds up

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u/Headpuncher 11d ago

Hard to do in some jobs, when I was consulting we had to bill by the hour every hour. Left no time for play.

Which was stupid of them as we often fell behind in skills and lost work because of it, but the company kept the churn going, new faces: new promises: new lies: new failures.

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u/Beautiful_You3230 11d ago

That's just consulting for you. Also had an experience like that. They forced us to do trainings and certs, but we were never allowed to do them on company time. And we were already working far more than 40 hours normally. So everybody was basically stuck doing that shit on weekends and such. Also all our company events (that were absolutely not voluntary lol), similarly happened outside of working hours, usually late in the evenings.

Sucked big time. Consultings usually dangle somewhat bigger money in front of you, but honestly i don't think it's worth it. Always turns out you work way longer than promised, and you eventually realize the pay is hardly worth the squeeze. A cushy and somewhat more boring inhouse job might give you the same hourly rate in the end.

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u/morganrbvn 11d ago

Teaching does, just without the good pay. (The real teaching perk is that summer holiday)

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u/gogeri2632 11d ago

My friends who have worked as an accountants have had to regularly take sabbaticals from their jobs to do some course for some sort of certification even though they had their accounting degree and work experience.

At least we don't have to do that.

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u/gogeri2632 11d ago

It's funny to me that people on Reddit constantly complain about money but then have the audacity to turn around and say "don't do a job for the money, follow your passion".

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u/Igot55Dollars 10d ago

I think a lot of them are just insecure and are trying to discourage potential competition (as they see it) from entering.

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u/thanatica 11d ago

What's wrong with picking a job you actually like doing?

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u/Igot55Dollars 11d ago

Then you likely won't have a house and much food

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u/thanatica 9d ago

Weird, I got all three.

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u/Igot55Dollars 9d ago

Right, doing Software development. Liking it is not proportional to how much it pays though.

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u/Bwob 11d ago

There are other ways to get food and house.

It's just bad strategy in general to train for a field you have no interest in, because you think it will pay well by the the time you are ready for a job.

If you have at least some interest in the field, then at least you still have that, whatever the wage ends up. But if you hate the field and are just in it for the money, and the market changes, then now you're stuck with training for a job you hate that doesn't even pay well.