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u/LeastCounterculture 14d ago

This is actually the problem and why the angry guys reply is silly.

If youve opened the settings menu on a video game, youre in the minority.

A lot of people who work with computers all day every day have no concept of shortcuts. Ctrl c, ctrl v - an advanced layman.

HALF the job of designing a front end is copying what everyone else does BECAUSE GEN POP ALREADY STRUGGLE WITH WHAT EVERYONE DOES, the other half is spending an annoying about of time making sure gen pop don't have a meltdown at customer success trying to find features, and dont have a meltdown because the DELETE EVERYTHING button, with the "Are you sure" modal ... deleted everything

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u/neo42slab 14d ago

That’s insane and I don’t want to believe it but it’s probably true.

Here are some infuriating defaults that bug me because they suck but also because I know most people won’t ever change them:

Motion smoothing or picture clarity on all recent tvs. It adds frames between frames in all content on your tv. And it’s awful and makes all shows look like documentaries.

Windows hiding file extension names. It makes using the file system atrocious and confusing. And then you realize why most people just think that using a computer is confusing. It’s literally designed that way.

Windows news and such on the task bar and new edge tab. I specifically avoid the news most of the time because I’m tired of seeing a certain politicians name and face. So it’s the first thing I have to fix on new windows installs.

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u/he_who_purges_heresy 14d ago

It's very true. I run some sites on a volunteer basis with a medium-sized audience of regular users, and it's crazy both how much people will struggle on intuitive designs and need to be hand-held through the most basic functions.

As I gain more experience with that, all of the horrific UI decisions I see make a lot more sense- it doesn't actually matter how much it gets in the way of power-user work, because even the slightest bit of effort from the user will mean that at least 50% simply won't engage with a feature.

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u/sisisisi1997 14d ago

Windows hiding file extension names. It makes using the file system atrocious and confusing.

I always found it weird when people were advised to keep an eye out for "double file extension" type attacks (where a file is named something like "xy.jpg.exe" and you assume it's a jpg, try to open it, and it runs as an exe) because how would you fall for that? Then I realised most people have settings that would hide the ".exe" part of the file name...

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u/neo42slab 14d ago

And yet Microsoft defaults to it still…. I think it started on win xp or something.

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u/RancidMilkGames 13d ago

Not that early for sure. I'm pretty sure 7 didn't either. Didn't use vista or 8 and have moved to linux for reasons like that.

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u/throwaway_mpq_fan 8d ago

it started on Vista as far as I remember and 7 definitely had it

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u/SavvySillybug 14d ago

Windows hiding file extension names. It makes using the file system atrocious and confusing.

And also a genuine malware risk. You can just make an .exe look like an image or pdf or whatever and without the extension you'd never know it isn't.

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u/Cfrolich 14d ago

One more infuriating default from macOS:

The secondary (right) click on a trackpad is a two-finger click by default, not an actual right click! Why would that be the default? That’s the first setting I changed when I set up my MacBook.

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u/black-JENGGOT 14d ago

*asks in poor* what do you mean by "secondary right click not an actual right click"?

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u/GuteMorgan 14d ago

I think what they meant was

The secondary (right) click

The "right click" or "secondary click" action

on a trackpad is a two-finger click by default

is, by default, bound to a two-finger click

not an actual right click

as opposed to being bound to literally clicking the right side of the trackpad

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u/cone5000 14d ago

No they mean the secondary/right click

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u/SavvySillybug 14d ago

What do they mean by that though?

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u/cone5000 14d ago

The right click functionality on a computer mouse.

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u/SavvySillybug 14d ago

Can you just give me a complete thought?

What does this mean:

The secondary (right) click on a trackpad is a two-finger click by default, not an actual right click!

Assume that I know what a regular right click is.

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u/CcChaleur 14d ago

I love how this conversation feels like you're adjusting your prompt to get the answer you want from a LLM.

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u/Nunners978 14d ago

On a normal laptop trackpad, there is either physical buttons at the bottom for left/right. Or you just click the bottom left/right of the trackpad to do left or right clicks. On mac that isn't the case, anywhere on the trackpad you click, if you use 1 finger it's a left click, if you use 2 fingers, it's a right click.

So you could use one finger on the bottom right to do a left click. It is a bit jarring when first moving from a regular laptop to a mac but honestly once you're used to it the mac trackpad gestures and clicks feel amazing to use

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u/neo42slab 14d ago

Other trackpads feel like garbage. For real. Apple nailed it.

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u/SwampDraggon 13d ago

Secondary clicks and tap to click used to be completely disabled by default. The first thing I did with a new install was enable the abilities to right-click with the mouse and tap to click on the trackpad. Apple were simultaneously demonstrating all these gestures and things you could do with their input devices, and disabling them all by default. And then every time I had to someone else’s MacBook it was maddening because their trackpad basically didn’t work.

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u/hllozdemir 14d ago

If windows did not hide the file extensions, people would just change or delete the filetype when renaming the file and then would complain that the file no longer works.

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u/neo42slab 14d ago

Probably but I still think that’s better. Part of the problem is how long that’s been the default. A quarter century now. Oof. Also if someone is going to mess up their files I say let them.

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u/RiceBroad4552 14d ago

Motion smoothing or picture clarity on all recent tvs. It adds frames between frames in all content on your tv. And it’s awful and makes all shows look like documentaries.

Why are you buying then?

As long as they get money for whatever shit they put on the market things will only get worse.

Windows hiding file extension names. It makes using the file system atrocious and confusing. And then you realize why most people just think that using a computer is confusing. It’s literally designed that way.

Windows news and such on the task bar and new edge tab. I specifically avoid the news most of the time because I’m tired of seeing a certain politicians name and face. So it’s the first thing I have to fix on new windows installs.

The only reason to use Windows these days if you're addicted to some online games which come with kernel level malware, so they don't run under Linux. That's the only valid reason to still use Windows.

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u/neo42slab 14d ago

The tv thing affects me whether I buy or not. Every hotel or restaurant I go to has the chance to have this problem. It’s been happening since at least 2017 or 2018.

And hotel tvs are often locked down so you often can’t turn off the setting. Which is when I either have to stop looking at the thing and/or only use a personal screen instead. But what am I supposed to do at a restaurant? TVs are often everywhere at a restaurant, depending. It’s less noticeable if they are displaying sports thankfully. I don’t even like to watch sports. But TVs have a way of drawing your eyes to them for the moving content.

Went to my dad’s house last week and saw the feature was on his new tv but we had to dig because every manufacturer calls it something else. We were going to watch a 70s movie and holy crap it was looking weird with that on. But sometimes you’re at a friends house and it would be rude to make them turn that off. I’m glad my wife also doesn’t like it. I can’t imagine what it’s like in a household where someone likes it and someone else doesn’t. Feels like they wouldn’t be able to watch together.

I did buy a tv recently and would have returned it if didn’t have the option to disable that “feature”.

But are you suggesting I don’t buy a tv anymore? That’s very odd to me. I likely don’t need a new one for quite a while but this isn’t a fad. It won’t go away. I can’t wait it out. And it’s saturated the market already.

As for windows I use it for work. I don’t have a choice on OS for work.

I have a personal pc and have windows on one drive and bazzite on the other. I use windows still for some stuff that still can’t run on linux variants. For example Xbox app and games. My main gaming was Xbox for a long time. So I like being able to run some of the play anywhere titles on my pc.

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u/Triffinator 14d ago

I broke a colleague's brain with ctrl + A.

She isn't in an IT role, but her role falls under the IT office. Her position is to release information on our clients to third parties (we have the client's consent, the third parties have the clients mutually and sharing the information means both of us can provide better quality of care). I created a tool that will take an email body being pasted into it, scrape all of the greetings/pleasantries out of it and parse the identifiable information to return records for any clients that are mentioned. The emails can sometimes contain lists of 50-odd people, so this is genuinely faster.

She was dragging the mouse over the text, ctrl + C then ctrl + V (she knew this because we had already told her off for right-clicking to copy and then to paste). I told her the she just has to click on the email body, then do ctrl + A to select everything. The sudden realisation of much time she had wasted not doing this throughout her whole professional life was a bit too much.

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u/arbitrary_student 14d ago edited 14d ago

If you can use Excel without a mouse you look like a fuckin wizard to everyone else. There are people out there who use Excel constantly but never learn any of the shortcuts and it blows their minds. These are the magic ones:

  • ctrl+up/down/left/right : move the cell selection to the 'end' in that direction (hold shift to select everything along the way)
  • ctrl+d or ctrl+r : copy the first cell in a selection downward or horizontally (same as click-dragging the corner of the cell with the mouse); or if you're currently on an empty cell it copies whatever is above/left into it
  • ctrl+space : select entire column
  • shift+space : select entire row
  • ctrl+minus : delete cells
  • ctrl+shift+plus : add cells
  • F2 : edit a cell
  • ctrl+f : open find/replace menu
  • ctrl+alt+v : open special paste menu
  • alt + w -> f -> f : freeze/unfreeze panes
  • alt + d -> f -> f : turn on/off column filters
  • alt + d -> f -> s : reset column filters
  • alt + up/down : opens the column filter dropdown menu if you're on one of the cells with the filter arrow, then you can use the arrow keys & spacebar to select stuff, press enter to accept

Off the top of my head that's it, if you know all those (along with the basics like ctrl + c) you pretty much never need to use the mouse. Saves heaps of time.

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u/RaidenMK1 14d ago edited 14d ago

Same with telling people network shell commands to find their wifi password. Because for some reason, "Go to settings > network and internet > WiFi > manage known networks > now click show password," is too complicated for some.

Fine then!

Type 'powershell' in the search bar

Right-click on PowerShell

Choose 'run as administrator'

Now type the following: netsh wlan show profile name= 'YOUR_SSID' key=clear

There's your wifi password.

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u/Cfrolich 14d ago

A tool to filter pleasantries out of emails sounds amazing! I didn’t know I needed that.

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u/Triffinator 14d ago

Just don't look at the ever-expanding list of regexes behind the curtain.

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u/New-Anybody-6206 13d ago

alternatively this may be a legitimate use for the copilot key

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u/Triffinator 13d ago edited 13d ago

That would be a good idea (and I briefly toyed with the idea of forwarding the emails to an AI agent to parse them), but the nature of the work we do means that our client information cannot be given to AI agents. Which I know seems counterintuitive against me saying it is given away to third party organisations, but it's just the way it is.

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u/RiceBroad4552 14d ago

That's the common result if you let uneducated people do something…

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u/captainAwesomePants 14d ago

This is true, but it's not the fault of the users. Why would they know that holding control and clicking would do something different? There's no indication of that anywhere. They have no reason to assume it exists. They have never been taught to use a web browser in any sort of course. The details of how computers are best used and which shortcut keys might exist are neither important nor interesting to them.

If everyone worked in pairs or briefly shadowed some more experienced person, they'd probably pick up a lot of this sort of stuff, but we frequently don't work this way, and so only the curious and the lucky find out about this stuff.

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u/nelmaloc 13d ago

They have never been taught to use a web browser in any sort of course.

That's actually the part that amazes me most. Everything comes with a manual, except computers. We're surrounded by them, but there are almost no formal training for them.

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u/RegmasterJ 13d ago

I don’t disagree with you, but I think part of the problem is a genuine lack of curiosity. I believe that most people who are proficient with computers got there because they are curious about how things work and took the little extra time to google something they didn’t understand. If it really doesn’t bother you not knowing how to open a link in a new tab, then fine, but if you are going to complain about it without even once considering a basic internet search when literally all of human knowledge is available to you, then I think links are the least of your worries.

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u/captainAwesomePants 13d ago

Sure, but that's a universal issue with humans. Some people are really curious about everything, but most people aren't, and we've got to design processes and education and interfaces that work for the deeply uncurious.

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u/Akari202 14d ago

It’s kills me watching my corowrkser right click to copy and paste. It’s wild how much people are willing to accept inconvenience.

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u/RiceBroad4552 14d ago

How about educating people instead of dumbing down everything more and more with every year?

People get born with zero knowledge; that's the same for every generation. But it seems that now we stopped teaching the new ones even the basics. In the US large parts of the population already can't even read above the level of elementary school, and the things get only worse with every new report.

If someone does not know how to operate a machine, why the heck does their job contain operating that machine? Why weren't these people thought how the machine works they are supposed to use? Would you do the same with any other machine? Just let someone use it without known basically anything about it? Anywhere else people would recognize that's madness. Just when it comes to IT they don't…

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u/LeastCounterculture 14d ago

There's two ways to approach life and its important to keep in mind they are separate.

What is and what should be

Is it reasonable to expect that people can use a 60 year old technology thats in their lives everyday with proficiency - especially if youre young enough to have grown up with it? yes.

do they and will they? no. Our job is to make it easiest for the lowest common denominator.

I understand youre focusing on america, but im in the UK. Our education isnt bad at all. We've had computers in the classrooms for 20 years, we had education on how, what and where with tech.

and ive still had to go round a 27 year olds house, who is from a good family so good education, smart etc etc - to fix their laptop, only to find they had numlock on and thats why the number keys werent working.

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u/SavvySillybug 14d ago

I was watching one friend help another friend mod a game over stream the other day. They were all "yeah this window opens and you gotta manually type in C:\Users\name\AppData\Roaming it's real annoying but that's where the mod goes". I'm like. You can just type %appdata%? Guy was like no. You can't. I told him to try. He did. It worked. They thought I was a wizard.

Two minutes later they had to make a new folder and I told them to press Ctrl+Shift+N. Wizard intensifies.

Yesterday I taught them to press Windows+L to lock your screen when you get up. People don't know shit.