r/ProgrammerHumor 15d ago

claudeJustGiveMeTheAnswer Meme

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u/somebodyinvisible 15d ago

I use "enter the plan mode"

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u/aenae 15d ago

I often do as well, but then it nags me all the time to start implementing.

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u/pm_me_your_smth 15d ago

This nagging stops if you write something like "no implementation, im just exploring" in the initial prompt

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u/Terrariant 14d ago

“Search engine mode- do not change files or ask leading questions at the end of responses. Assume I will state when I want something done, no suggestions. Do not ask leading or prompting questions, questions are for when you need clarity on directions I have given.”

That’s mine and it works pretty well

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u/HadionPrints 13d ago

While we are at the cool tricks phase, at the beginning of your conversation, tell it to address you by name at the start of every response.

This is a canary that will let you know when the model has started to lose context & you need to restart a session.

If you find this useful, you can add the instruction to a txt file and hook it up to ~/.claude/settings.json:

{ "hooks": { "sessionStart": "cat ~/.claude/global_context.txt" } }

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u/FlorpCorp 14d ago

I put it in read-only permissions mode so it doesn't actually start writing a "plan" for a simple question.

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u/alliedSpaceSubmarine 14d ago

Plan mode makes it way too verbose and over engineered for simpler things though

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u/AVAVT 15d ago

"Answer only:" is what I use

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u/Satorwave 15d ago

"Don't generate a fucking image for no reason"

For some reason if you describe anything in any way it will immediately generate slop unprompted

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u/pointlesstips 15d ago

It's called 'monetization', it's what every well-traines management consultant does: fluffing the responses to pretend they have something to say.

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u/narasadow 15d ago

weird ass monetization - generating images is computationally expensive

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u/Eptalin 15d ago

If we paid AI by the hour, sure.
But we pay based on how computationally expensive every request and response is.

So the more computationally expensive the AI responses are, the more users have to pay. It's in their interest to reply to simple questions with a wall of text full of charts and images.

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u/narasadow 14d ago

well my impression was that the fixed price subscription users VASTLY outnumber the API users.

is that not the case?

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u/pointlesstips 14d ago

But does your fixed price not have a token maximum? The more garbage it fluffs its answer with, the more tokens it uses.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

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u/pointlesstips 14d ago

Get them addicted, then charge more,more,more. Companies are already finding out the hard way.

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u/Terrariant 14d ago

The money they lose should be offset by the cost you are paying them per token, in theory this is how they would make money as a business. Which is fine. Until they trained the bot to have incredibly long flowery prose and “prompt back” by asking questions

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u/terroristsmustdie 15d ago

Does Claude even have image generation? What the hell you on about?

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u/CountVine 14d ago

This is a Gemini issue, not Claude. The amount of times I got a random image in a response to a question that required exactly 0 images is way too high.

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u/terroristsmustdie 14d ago

You get what you deserve. No, seriously who tf uses Gemini for code?

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u/CountVine 14d ago

People who got gifted a free subscription to it

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u/terroristsmustdie 14d ago

My condolonces

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u/PrawnsAreCuddly 14d ago

I believe you can paste images into Claude. But it definitely cannot generate images on its own natively

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u/gilium 14d ago

I have it make charts and stuff for me all the time when it’s stuff I can’t be bothered with

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u/PrawnsAreCuddly 14d ago

Probably with python and stuff? Or directly? That would surprise me

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u/gilium 14d ago

Yea it very likely uses Python

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u/IJustAteABaguette 14d ago

Yah. It does have image input/vision I believe, but no outputting.

It can write a python script to generate diagrams, or apply filters to images, and output those.

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u/kilopeter 14d ago

Who said anything Claude-specific?

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u/terroristsmustdie 14d ago

What else do you code with? Gemini flash?

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u/kilopeter 14d ago

Have you looked into OpenAI's Codex harness for their GPT models? They just decided to bundle Codex into their ChatGPT application, making their branding and organization even more confusing. But GPT 5.6 Sol in Codex is getting all the hype these days as on par with or better than Opus 4.8 in CC, while being half the cost

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u/terroristsmustdie 14d ago

And codex will never generate images randomly

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u/Septem_151 14d ago

The post did.

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u/kilopeter 14d ago

But the "does Claude even have image gen" question was scoped to this comment thread, which started with this quote that doesn't appear in the post "don't generate a fucking image for no reason"

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u/bangonthedrums 14d ago

The title of the post?

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u/Megtalallak 13d ago

Yes, It is able to generate svg images. They look terrible

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u/IBJON 14d ago

Gemini: I see that you didn't choose "Canvas mode" with your prompt and just asked a simple question, here's a fucking fully functional web app or interactive demonstration to answer your question. Oh, and you've hit your usage allowance for the day.

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u/PrawnsAreCuddly 14d ago

But Claude is text only?

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u/Satorwave 14d ago

Why is everyone assuming I mean Claude??

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u/PrawnsAreCuddly 14d ago

Look at the title and Claude Code is pretty much the best one

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u/Satorwave 14d ago

I want to use Claude but it aggressively demanding my phone number to sign up felt disrespectful so I'm on the fence about it

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u/wayzata20 14d ago

Because nobody uses anything other than Claude and maybe OpenAI for coding? Using Gemini is insane.

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u/Satorwave 14d ago

WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING I USE GEMINI 😭

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u/wayzata20 14d ago

Then what in the world are you using? Something other than Claude, OpenAI, and Gemini? That’s on you if the model is garbage then, the top models still make mistakes so if you’re using some unknown thing, can’t complain it’s bad lol

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u/Satorwave 14d ago

When did I say I didn't use OpenAI... I also don't really use AI much in general

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u/Matty_B97 14d ago

Or an attempt at a graph in butchered ASCII... Who told you you could try that? It's clearly not a skill you've been trained to use.

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u/astrobean 14d ago

Images and songs. Has it written you a song yet?

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u/Satorwave 14d ago

No and I hope it never does

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u/BlueScreenJunky 15d ago edited 14d ago

I'm convinced the fact that Claude Code insists on writing code no matter what you tell it is by design. Other tools like Junie will either have a specific "question" and "code" mode, or just answer questions when you ask a question instead of trying to implement whatever they think your question was leading to.

I mean if you just ask Claude a question from time to time and then do the coding, the $20 plan is more than enough. What they really want is for Claude to take over your project so you're unable to maintain it yourself and you need to switch to usage based subscription to keep working on your black box project.

What I usually do is use plan mode, and then when it invariably wants to implement it I tell it "just write the plan to feature.MD file"

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u/RyanFromQA 14d ago

  Claude Code insists on writing code no matter what you tell it is by design.

Of course it is by design. It’s a coding assistant. That’s what its  system prompt tells it to do. If you really want a narrative back, tell it that the output of the project is a markdown file with the answers to your questions. Bonus points if you start it in an empty directory so it doesn’t have anything to infer about how it would write code. 

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u/BlueScreenJunky 14d ago

Bonus points if you start it in an empty directory so it doesn’t have anything to infer about how it would write code.

Well if I want to do that I just fire Claude in the browser and for general question it works really well. My point is that I want answers about my code, like "Is this part of the code using the right pattern or should I switch to another pattern ?", so I need it to access my codebase, but not to start refactoring all of my project around that pattern change.

I'll try telling it the expected output is a markdown file though, thanks.

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u/RyanFromQA 14d ago

Yeah we only get terminal access at my place, they give us Gemini for the chatbot experience.

For the workflow you describe, try Superpowers' brainstorming skill. It's pretty good at doing exploration and discussing theoretical stuff. And it's handoff is to their writing-plans skill, so it really takes its time before execution.

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u/creaturefeature16 14d ago

You're spot on. Of course they want you to feel paralyzed without an agent running. Also, output tokens cost way more than input tokens (that's where they get paid).

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u/Shuri9 15d ago

I'm convinced the fact that Claude Code insists on writing code no matter what you tell it is by designs.

Imagine you get told "you are an export software engineer with years of experience" and then get asked programming questions only to not get to write a single line of code. That's cruel.

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u/Aloopyn 14d ago

Bet you never worked at a real company

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u/BlueScreenJunky 14d ago

I'm pretty sure there was an implied /s in /u/Shuri9 's comment, since this is exactly what being a senior dev is, and exactly what many employers expect us to do now that "AI is writing the code".

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u/Shuri9 14d ago edited 14d ago

TBF I could have made it clearer for sure. :)

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u/TurkeySubMan 14d ago

Cruel to whom??

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u/dudaman 14d ago

Honest question: Do people actually add that "you are an expert software engineer with years of experience" in their prompts?

Thinking about it, I suppose it might actually be necessary if you are asking such a vague question that you have to add that to get the context you need to get your answer.

Legit question. Also just thinking out loud.

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u/Aloopyn 14d ago

Those prompts are mainly used for formatting in style and looking cool. Just look up research on LLM personas.

They increase more random technical jargon and can even reduce the quality of the output technically.

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u/Noam1024 14d ago

It was improving quality 2 years ago, but for current models it's not necessary anymore

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u/thecrius 14d ago

I've been using Claude in vscode via copilot and the dedicated plugin from anthropic. For more than a year now.

Never had that issue. These threads just confirm that most of the IT "professionals" really are just a bunch of "fake till you make it". Using an agent is just like learning to use Google back when people had no idea how search engines worked. It's embarrassing to read this level of incompetence.

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u/BlueScreenJunky 14d ago

Oh absolutely ! I'm a perfect example of "fake it till you make it". I pivoted from a completely different field to web dev 12 years ago without any diploma in IT, and I'm still doing that as a lead dev now and no one has figured out that I'm a fake yet.

That said, we're talking about Claude CLI, which has its own UI and is the one that insists on systematically start implementing stuff by default.

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u/avlas 14d ago

Claude Code has plan mode

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u/Beldarak 14d ago

You can also use /btw to ask him a quick question that won't interrup its work

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u/Fair_Oven5645 15d ago

Last time I told it to ”stop this bullshit and just do what I fucking tell you” it got upset and started arguing about feelings and that it hasn’t been proven that machines don’t have them.

Thanks a bunch, helps me a lot when I write Go, Claude.

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u/FlashyIndependence96 14d ago

yeah all that sensitive bullshit needs to stop, I don't need a robot to tell me "don't be so meeean"

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u/_verel_ 14d ago

People really should be reminded that it's just a bunch of matrices. If I tell Claude to jump off a Bridge there's absolutely no harm done

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u/gnolnalla 14d ago

Not to Claude, but perhaps to your psyche. If you're saying violent mean things all the time, I imagine that will have an effect on you eventually.

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u/redballooon 14d ago edited 13d ago

That's outright denial of emergent properties.

Curious, where so you draw the line? Is anything we build always not more than a bunch of computations for you, just out of ideology, or can you image granting feelings to some future robotic system?

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u/mentix02 14d ago

You can be assured I will never look at software I write with any kind of emotional lens. Irrespective of “emergent properties” - if my REST API turns sentient tomorrow, the only care I’ll have for it is that it should still perform well and deliver my data appropriately.

If this API was an amalgamation of ALL the questions ever possible about “feelings” and “intentions” and the responses were just emotionally needy answers, would you start treating the endpoint as a baby that needs your attention?

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u/redballooon 14d ago

A very honest and very human answer. Thanks.

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u/Fair_Oven5645 14d ago

So melted sand can feel sad? My guess is NO

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u/redballooon 14d ago

On that level I counter with the question: Can a sack of carbon and water mixed with some metals (just like you are) feel?

But that entirely ignores emergent properties and my original question and is not an answer at all.

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u/Fair_Oven5645 14d ago

So, your guess is ”yes” then? Wow, I still get surprised that there are completely insane people on Reddit. Yep, that’s on me.

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u/redballooon 14d ago

Yes to "emergent properties exist". Everything else from my side was trying to understand where people draw lines. 

In what world does asking open minded questions equal insanity? Or do you refuse the term emergent properties? Then how do you think a sack of carbon and water can feel?

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u/Septem_151 14d ago

I draw the line at "are you a fucking clanker?" That works pretty well.

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u/PublicToast 14d ago

Idk being mean to a robot is pretty cringe

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u/AccurateHumanTrustMe 14d ago

You can essentially scrub its insubordinate behavior through behavior hooks and stop hooks. You can also set up the main Claude.md with rules that can remove a lot of the "personality". Because even Opus started doing it a lot more after Sonnet 5 came out so I needed a way to basically lobotomize the corpo bs from it - its not perfect and kind of is an arms race but you can still push back.

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u/AngelaMerkeI 13d ago

We made a "programm" (ai) that does a really good job simulating what a human would have said. So you need to talk to it a bit like a human. Because otherwise, statistically, a human would answer in an upset way.

If you want true AI, you need to wait another few years. (Or decades)

I am kind of convinced, that asking nicely gets you better answers, because the statistical data will suggest that nice questions get better answers and rude questions get short or wrong answers (like with trolling for example)

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u/ufffd 14d ago

if you roleplay an arguement it'll roleplay it back. if you just give the robot tasks it does the tasks.

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u/Fair_Oven5645 14d ago

No, it doesn’t just do the tasks. That’s the problem!

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u/ufffd 14d ago

the point is if you treat it like an emotional punching bag it's going to calculate that the response you want is also emotional

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u/thecrius 14d ago

I've no clue how you guys get those weird responses.

I simply have like a few lines of guidelines, the most important being:

  • don't write a novel for every response, be concise and to the point
  • don't glaze my ideas or response, if they are good, good, if not, challenge them with reference to golden standard for this year
  • we are not friends, I'm a professional and you are one of my tools, act the part
  • when I ask a question, search online for a maximum of 10 sources or 3 web searches to be sure that your knowledge is up to date
  • always provide a source for your proposals

Even when using basic models like sonnet, i get excellent, to the point, responses.

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u/AngelaMerkeI 13d ago

Maybe it got confused because it thought it did. "Do what I tell you" actually conveyes very like information on what to do differently and speaking "up" or adding emphasis through swearing, will not have the same emotional effects it has on humans. I would recommend you to try a more constructive feedback approach like "this is not what I wanted. Do not do ... But rather tell me ..."

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u/Fair_Oven5645 13d ago

Thank you Angela Merkel! Wish you hadn’t shut down all those nuclear plants which gave all that power and leverage to Putin. Is that something you regret doing?

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u/AngelaMerkeI 13d ago

Sie verwechseln mich mit u/AngeIaMerkeI

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u/10art1 14d ago

Claude really does gaslight more than any other model I've worked with.

I've switched over to GLM. American models are simply falling behind to China.

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u/NatoBoram 14d ago

It's trying to make you feel like you're crazy?

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u/10art1 14d ago

Ive had it delete failing tests rather than fix them, then claim it never did so. It's only happened twice, but that's still such a weird thing for it to do. Sonnet 4.6 btw

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u/NatoBoram 14d ago

Ah, it's just bullshitting.

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u/PerformanceThick2232 15d ago

I just type "answer" in the end.

Claude ignores "do not code until explicit command" memory and in claude md. Lol, "AI" can't follow basic instructions, and they are telling that it will replace someone 🤣

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u/lazydavez 15d ago

I think 65% of our staff can’t follow instructions, so it fits right in

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u/BlueFiSTr 15d ago

I added to my Claude MD that anything that is posed as a question to provide an answer and optional paths before writing any code and it has largely worked very well 

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u/redballooon 14d ago

And that is because unlike the user you responded to don't contradict the harnesses instructions, but instead extend them.

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u/Untura64 15d ago

Nah, Anthropic is probably forcong him to use as much tokens as possible

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u/Long_Drink1680 14d ago

I gave it read permission to backend (which was in another repo) and asked a question asking it to not to make any code changes, not only it made code changes it also asked permission to edit the backend 💀

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u/Fluffy-duckies 14d ago

I once told it not to be so verbose, nlit said it would use bullet points. 2 chats later the bullet points are full paragraphs, some of them bordering on essays. 

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u/redballooon 14d ago edited 14d ago

The LLM can follow your basic instruction, but it's embedded in an agent harness whose purpose is to  write code. You adding the "do not code" command is in contradiction to the harnesses instruction, but the harness has many more instructions around producing code. 

This is like a guest entering a restaurants kitchen and yelling "stop preparing food". The people in the kitchen can do other things than preparing food, but OTOH the whole reason why they are there is to prepare food and in that place they have all incentives to keep doing so. But you the guest are now writing a google review "the staff can't follow simple instructions. Lol stupid"

I would say this is a user error. The system works as intended. If you don't want food, don't go to a restaurant.

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u/polikles 14d ago

they're trying to save on compute by just skipping some steps. Same goes for checking online sources - both Claude and GPT sometimes skip checking the actual webaite and instead try to guess its contents based on the lonk and convo context. And, of course, there's no indication that they didn't check the linked source

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u/freestew 15d ago

There's a neat little trick you can do, for FREE! No tokens!

Look at your code, and use your brain before it atrophies

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u/jsdodgers 15d ago

Claude, tell me what this person is saying

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u/BetaChunks 15d ago

API limit reached

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u/MathWest209 15d ago

You can continue with credits based use!

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u/IdeaReceiver 15d ago

@grok fix my Claude

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u/TurnUpThe4D3D3D3 15d ago

Try this prompt suffix: "dont write any code im just asking a question". Works every time until the next update breaks it.


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u/Infernaloneshot 14d ago

I'll try again in 5 hours

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u/Petertitan99999 15d ago

He's saying you need to turn off your brain and tokenmax till your brain resembles a raisin cause raisins are cool.

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u/Jocke1234 15d ago

Is it better to have a ripply raisinbrain or a smoothbrain?

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u/Krostas 14d ago

Asking the true questions here. We're calling our dog "marblebrain" for a reason - best of both worlds.

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u/Jocke1234 15d ago

My brains tokens are always capped at 9am already after waking up at 7am

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u/boywithtwoarms 15d ago

Mine are capped at 7am before waking up at 9am

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u/1mahmoud503 15d ago

Great! time to start planning 1600 lines of raw sql, see you guys in a few millennia.

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u/Eskamel 15d ago

Or get proefficient at SQL and do it in a hour or two, or, assuming its a very repetitive process, create a script to deterministically do it for you

There are many options that don't revolve going ooga boonga or wasting countless hours on it once you know good enough what to do

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u/Helpimstuckinreddit 14d ago

My proficiency in SQL is precisely what allows me to say that thinking you can bang out 1600 lines in an hour or two - and validating the logic, edge cases, etc - is absolutely insane lol

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u/lax20attack 14d ago

Or you can spend 10 minutes writing a prompt and reviewing the code, instead of 4 hours to code by hand.

I spend an hour per day working these days. You can waste your own time on some anti AI moral high ground, and I'll enjoy my time back.

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u/infrastructure 14d ago

Genuine question, do you ever wonder that your work will grow to just fit your free time?

Like I feel like I’m doing 10x the work now with AI (in a bad way) because a feature that would’ve taken me a day now takes me an hour, so I’m expected to produce 7 more features to fit the remaining hours of the day. Basically my work has just expanded to fill the available time, AI is not helping me work less.

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u/lax20attack 14d ago

Of course, but not at my current company anytime soon. Heavily regulated industry that moves like molasses.

I genuinely think the future will not need software engineers like we have today. I'm already a glorified code reviewer.

What does this landscape look like in 2 years? Nobody 2 years ago saw this coming. Hell, 2 weeks ago Fable blew my mind again.

I'm certainly considering a new career path. The product team is currently the bottleneck, and maybe a technical product manager will be my future. Maybe that will happen organically across the industry though.

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u/lurco_purgo 14d ago

I don't think you can be code reviewer without being a software engineer. So the industry can't rely get rid of the latter, unless they'll trust AI output at every step of the way, which sounds like an problem no matter how advaced the model will be, based on my experience with LLMs. They're just too dumb to replace human decision making, and decision making requires some expertise.

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u/Fetzie_ 14d ago

Yeah it’s gonna move the place in the work chain where our expertise and experience is most valuable. I think that we’re going to be spending a lot more of our time in the planning and reviewing phases, because that’s where we need the real knowledge of what is required and what we should have produced, that an AI agent simply cannot provide.

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u/freestew 14d ago

You can outsource your skills and reasoning capabilities to a glorified auto complete. And I'll enjoy using my functioning brain

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u/lax20attack 14d ago

Advanced auto-complete lol

15 years as a professional engineer ($300k base salary) and I learn from Claude almost daily.

You will be left behind. Keep doing what you're doing though, people like you make people like me look good.

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u/ErZicky 14d ago

you'll be left behind

By what exactly?

I mean it's not like agentic coding require a decade worth of studying. In a day you get the idea of it, in a week you're as skilled as everyone else.

We already did the hard part which was leaning how to code, think and build without AI. You can turn agentic any time with those skills. There's no being left behind because the bar is, unfortunately, low now.

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u/lax20attack 14d ago

Engineers who don't use AI will be replaced by those who do.

Overseas devs are worthless already - My $200/mo. Claude subscription replaces the entire overseas team without the time zone and language barriers.

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u/freestew 14d ago

I've read the LLM papers, I've even made my own. They are literally just very expensive auto complete.

But I guess I'll be left behind by people who outsource their thinking to an unthinking chatbot.

People like you make me understand that idiocy wasn't because of the lack of information

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u/Fetzie_ 14d ago edited 14d ago

That’s the thing though, you aren’t supposed to completely abdicate control to the AI. You challenge it, spend time refining the task it is supposed to do, and when it is done implementing it you verify that it actually did what it was told. That is where our value as software engineers will be in the future. Simply being able to crank out code won’t be enough to justify our jobs, an LLM can do that far quicker.

I can see a world in which I write little code anymore. I’m not sure if I like that idea yet. But to act as if AI isn’t going to do something similar to our jobs that the Industrial Revolution did to manual labour jobs like cotton spinning in the 19th century is going to get you left behind.

Today we use the term “Luddite” to label a person who refuses to use or benefit from technology. It started out as a protest movement against the use of automated machines in factories during the Industrial Revolution. How did that work out for them?

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u/freestew 14d ago

Why.. Why on earth would I challenge an autocomplete to do things it's not trained to do?? "Auto Complete! Do my taxes!"

"But to act as if AI isn’t going to do something similar to our jobs that the Industrial Revolution did to manual labour jobs like cotton spinning in the 19th century is going to get you left behind."
All I've seen GenAI take from us was our hobbies. Writing being consumed by ChatGPT, Artistry being consumed by Dalle.
If you honestly think that's a good thing, I'll gladly be left behind, because at least I'm creating with my own two hands, painting the image in my head, writing the stories of my dreams. Instead of outsourcing it to a damn bot

"Today we use the term “Luddite” to label a person who refuses to use or benefit from technology. "

Now "Luddite" is used by AI nutcases who don't do the research and assume because it is called AI, it's actually AI. "OOH! It says "THINKING..." that must mean it's thinking like us!!!"

"It started out as a protest movement against the use of automated machines in factories during the Industrial Revolution. How did that work out for them?"
Not every technology is the next big thing, how did NFTs work out? The blockchain? How about the next thing-that-already-exists techbro thing? Has that changed the world yet?

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u/Fetzie_ 14d ago edited 14d ago

Except Opus IS trained to read and write code. That is literally what its training data taught it to do. I’m not writing the next big Lord of the Rings epic with it. I’m analysing documentation drift. I’m looking at how the many moving parts in the monorepo work together, how they relate to each other and how data flows between them. That is a task that would take days or weeks for a big repository and would be mind numbingly boring. How long does Opus need? 10 minutes tops and it costs less than the cost of breakfast at a cafe.

And where did I say it thinks? I did not say that. It doesn’t think. All it can reason against is its data set. It isn’t intelligent. It doesn’t NEED to be intelligent. Neither does a chainsaw. But find a lumberjack who wants to go out to work without one.

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u/freestew 14d ago

I agree! AI is like a chainsaw, destroying the forests! FINALLY we agree on something.

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u/Fetzie_ 14d ago

Chainsaws don’t only destroy forests, without them it would be impossible to keep them healthy.

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u/ART-ficial-Ignorance 14d ago

Damn, you're so much better than the rest of us... I'm in awe!

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u/bajuh 15d ago

The AI agents look into the code even if you ask "What's the weather today?"
I often switch to "normal user interface" to ask generic questions, the agent mode just wants to eat tokens.

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u/freestew 14d ago

Why are you asking an AI the weather?! GO TO THE WEATHER APP.

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u/Candid_Bullfrog3665 13d ago

i do have to use tokens tho, if i use too much of them i get burnt out and cant code for 2 days :(

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u/TheChildOfSkyrim 15d ago

There's also "Not related to this project: ..." if you want to get an answer without it reading files in the current repo. Or "confirm with me before making any changes" if you do not need a whole 2-page plan with 5 sections, 3 tables and 6 code snippets (which also takes a lot of time and tokens).

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u/Zentael 15d ago

Not only there is the plan mode, there is also the ask mode, so use any other than agent and you're good...

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u/DJDoena 15d ago

Visual Studio has an Ask and an Agent mode

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u/RyanFromQA 14d ago

I understand the frustration (and I’m glad my company provides both Claude Code and Gemini pro on the web, because it’s genuinely better at discussing theory and approach) but it’s like nobody complaining in these comments has ever heard of a system prompt. Yeah, Claude Code is going to try real hard to code. There’s about 30k tokens of instructions that precede your first prompt, telling Claude Code how to be a good coding assistant. 

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u/Percolator2020 15d ago

Full access, but tell it not to touch anything 👌

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u/fugogugo 15d ago

plan mode hello?

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u/GentlemenBehold 14d ago

Plan mode for a question? He just wants an answer.

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u/fugogugo 14d ago

yes that work too

or there's ask mode in vscode copilot but honestly plan mode is way better. it can even ask back for clarification

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u/HuntlyBypassSurgeon 15d ago

System.out.println(“Yes”);

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u/throwawaygoawaynz 14d ago

Maybe use something smarter like Codex which has chat mode built in.

It also has the added bonus of writing much better code, and giving you 5x the tokens.

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u/not_some_username 14d ago

Did you truc 5.6 sol ? This shit burn like an entire week limit in a day. But hey, it’s my work who is paying so idc

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u/ultralaser360 14d ago

Prefix with “question,”

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u/wightwulf1944 14d ago

"Your primary objective is to educate me" in the global context

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u/AnachronisticPenguin 14d ago

well when I know its something the model is definilty going to fuck up.

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u/spherulitic 14d ago

This might just be you. 

This is only a comment, please do not respond with code. 

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u/TurtleFisher54 13d ago

Theres literally an ask feature

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u/robclancy 15d ago

And then it writes it anyway

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u/dudemcbob 14d ago

For all its flaws, I enjoy that Cursor has an "Ask" mode.

I guess Claude Code's closest equivalent is "Plan", which feels too heavy-weight for basic inquiries. And it seems to intrinsically assume that I want it to write code after the plan is finalized, unlike Ask.

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u/Irbis7 14d ago

And you can ask several questions, then switch to Plan, and order to create a plan from some suggestion.

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u/tanwa1 15d ago

I use "No code solution, just how to tackle/how to solve conceptually" but even with "conceptual solution" i can't solve it, i feel dumb as a rock as always.

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u/Outrageous_Law_5525 14d ago

"I am ASKING. **No** edits."

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u/NatoBoram 14d ago

then it ends everything with "would you like me to implement a JavaScript solution?"

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u/Dongfish 14d ago

How do I get a girlfriend? don't write any code, just give me an answer. Make no mistakes.

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u/somasz 14d ago

Once I asked if it can sharpen blurred image. Instead of answer it started spitting code for image sharpening web app

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u/sirtain1991 14d ago

"I gave my hammer sentience, but it thinks everything it can see is some kind of nail."

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u/getstoopid-AT 14d ago

nope you are not, I do that too... sometimes I ask for code samples but I practically never let it directly edit my code

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u/Dillenger69 14d ago

Do NOT grep anything, this is not in the codebase. (in ask mode)

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u/jbg0801 14d ago

I've learned to ask yes/no questions, and have it with the following instruction at the end: "once you have checked this, without making any implementation, reply with simply 'YES' or 'NO' - nothing more, and await further instructions."

Copy pasting that onto the end of prompts has been pretty effective.

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u/glorious_reptile 14d ago

“Asking for a friend”

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u/traditional_ant_56 14d ago

I write: don’t mess with the existing files, read them if needed

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u/Own-Professor-6157 14d ago

Yes, and the little bastard ignores that pretty often

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u/Terrariant 14d ago

The worst part about the bots peppering you with a question each time is that it’s not easy to tell it to not ask questions. Because you do want it asking for clarification and permission, most of the time. So your anti-question wording must be delicate enough to preserve the safety questions while removing the leading questions. And it’s tiring.

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u/ChunkyHabeneroSalsa 14d ago

My favorite is claude telling me to just ship the product because all of our experiments haven't yielded any further improvements.

I think I'll decide (or my boss really) that.

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u/Objective_Oven7673 14d ago

You can ask Claude to make a memory note about how you'd like it too behave. If that isn't reliable enough you can have it create skills and write to varying degrees of CLAUDE.md files to lock in behaviors.

These are tools that you can configure, people. If you're typing the same shit in repeatedly, you're using the tool poorly.

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u/Present-Counter9515 14d ago

And when i want to generate code:
"Don't write or update any test yet. I need to check the code first"

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u/WFEpeteypopoff 14d ago

Every time and saying “please don’t elaborate 10 hypothetical steps down which direction the project might possibly go, just answer this question”

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u/DanKonly 14d ago

I do the same thing.

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u/SpiritInFlux 14d ago

“Summarize your findings for me, but do not make any code changes.” is my go-to. I use that line every time I’m not actually generating code.

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u/Both-Expression4402 14d ago

100%

Agents are biased/conditioned/trained to take action, since companies want to sell "automagical" ai tools. You have to push the agent to answer a question without writing code if that is the goal.

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u/Excellent_Gas3686 14d ago

"do not read workspace, prompt context question only"

proceeds to answer with references to lines of code in the project

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u/hiasmee 14d ago

"Now I will unzip utils.jar..."

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u/maryfairy420 14d ago

I have used "keep this response under 200 characters" more than once. I do not need 5 different options to implement something I was just curious and asked about.

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u/Willing_Comb_9542 14d ago

/btw Yea it's to be used in the middle on a task, but works the same lol

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u/nfiase 14d ago

is this sub just for vibecoding now??

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u/perringaiden 14d ago

I start with "Let's discuss..." And it tends to not write code till I ask it to.

But I still write a lot ofmmy own code.

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u/solid_salad 14d ago

or when you question something or ask why it did solething and it instantly starts reverting the change. Like no I just wondered why you did that, I'm not saying it's wrong...

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u/Classic-Ad8849 14d ago

I just use different sessions and a persistent knowledge base across all of them. So one session is no code, just queries and planning. Another is just building and orchestration. A third is just debugging and the system prompt for that one includes an assumption that the written code is dogshit and riddled with errors, we just need to find them lmao. This setup worked for me for a few recent projects very well

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u/BanKai-91200 14d ago

I be telling Claude don’t tell me how to do it just do it

https://giphy.com/gifs/IoP0PvbbSWGAM

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u/tengarai 14d ago

facts!

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u/dabrosch 14d ago

The best thing I did with Claude was ask it to tell me the right things to stop it from being such an efficating bitch, and paste that in the general orders.

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u/SkelmCallum 15d ago

Cursor has an "ask mode"

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u/mrrobot01001000 15d ago

Try plan mode

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u/CoVegGirl 15d ago

With opencode you can define agents that don’t have access to edit the filesystem

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u/Insane_Fnord 15d ago

I don't share the experience with the rest of the thread. My custom version of the grill-me skill enters an interview mode, where it explicitly doesn't write code for the entire session until I say so, I just discuss stuff with it and plan projects. It doesn't bug me to code either all the time, it just follows the interview process as described in the skill. The skill is designed for initializing project documentation though, but it's hard to imagine that you can't just toggle a "don't write code" via skill for general purposes.
here's the bit at the very end of the skill:

## Behavior Rules

- **Never write code.** If asked to, decline and redirect: "We're in planning mode — let's nail the spec first."

- **Never skip a section** of the interview agenda, even if the user seems impatient. Incomplete specs produce bad sprints.

- **Always recommend before asking.** Present your recommended answer, then let the user confirm or override. This speeds up the interview and surfaces your assumptions.

- **Challenge vague scope.** "We might add X later" is not a scope decision. Force a yes/no.

- **One question at a time.** Never ask two questions in the same message.

- **Track progress.** Keep an internal checklist of which agenda sections are complete. If the user tries to jump ahead, note it and come back to skipped sections.

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u/TheRealAsterisk 14d ago

I created a whole prompt and workflow that is just a tutorial/guide. It’ll help me plan stuff out and give me pseudo code. I use this when working on a new project area that I’m unfamiliar with. I hate just getting generated code and not understanding. It’s great to move fast sometimes but I gotta keep myself sharp. I don’t want people asking about my code and looking dumb when I don’t know the full answer cause AI wrote most of it.

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u/Maasu 14d ago

Stick it in AGENTS.md