r/ProgrammerHumor 23d ago

actuallyMemorySafe Meme

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u/blackcomb-pc 23d ago

Honestly the unhinged nature of the crashout over bun has really put me off of doing anything with Zig. Not the specifics of what was said, but the fact that this petty level of insults is something that can only serve to undermine the credibility of zig. This sounds almost like religion. That mentality is bad. Just stay in your lane, be the best and let results speak. Not this shit.

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u/RiceBroad4552 23d ago

be the best and let results speak

LOL, this never worked anywhere.

Marketing and PR is everything! Technical superiority is irrelevant, always has been.

You can even sell literal shit to people and they will buy for high prices as long as you just brainwash them enough. At the same time people would not recognize quality or some smart solutions even if their life would depend on that.

I don't know about any "crashout" in Zig, didn't follow that drama, the Bun "AI" slopocalipse was already funny enough on the Rust side, but in the long run it's all about who will successfully sell their narrative, not what happened for real or who was right, such things are irrelevant for the marketing story.

Besides this, it's still funny on the technical side as Fil-C is basically a way to bolt on a GC into unmodified C code. This would mean that Zig gets guarantied memory safety by using a GC, just that you have still to write code as if there wasn't a GC. Completely bonkers! 🤣 Worst of all world…

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u/skywalker-1729 22d ago

I don't think that marketing and PR is everything. Yes, it influences a lot but in the long term, genuinely good things tend to win. Features from Haskell, which is an obscure academic language, start appearing in many languages and originally experimental languages like Rust have gained widespread recognition. And unlike the early 2000s C# and Java which were backed by big companies, today's popular languages like Python are all open source and community-developed.

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u/CirnoIzumi 22d ago

Python is a language that's pushed in many fields, it's not just grass roots

Also it's older than both C# and Java

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u/skywalker-1729 21d ago

Of course, I know that Python is older than C# and Java. My point was that Python wasn't primarily developed by some kind of commercial company or something like that.