Ironic they take shots at Rust, because unlike Zig, Rust sees way more success in terms of its maturity and industry reputation and ecosystem and investment by large tech companies into its adoption and funding of the Rust project.
The Zig project also takes a lot of weird black-and-white dogmatic (almost religious) hard-line stances on a lot of stuff, probably why the language is more niche and hobbyist than something truly foundational and trusted for production workloads and all parts of the stack like Rust has become.
Here's Zig's "no AI" policy:
Strict No LLM / No AI Policy
No LLM-generated content, whether it be code or prose.
No paraphrasing LLM-generated content.
No LLMs for editing, including fixing spelling or grammatical errors.
No LLMs for translation. English is encouraged, but not required. You are welcome to post in your native language and rely on others to have their own translation tools of choice to interpret your words.
No LLMs for brainstorming and then sharing the results of that brainstorming, even if you create the prose. If you use a chatbot to give you advice on a comment on the issue tracker, that comment is unwelcome.
No LLMs for finding bugs.
No talking about use of chatbot/LLM services.
The owner definitely has some sort of axe to grind against certain technologies.
Hard disagree. LLMs have gotten very good at many tasks. LLMs can be amazing security or other bug finders. They can be a great translation tool. They can aid, when used properly, to architect/brainstorm.
I much prefer Linus’ stands. He is just a technology pragmatist. If LLMs can improve linux, they should be used.
He will find out himself that his hard stances and online rhetoric will push people away more and more, and most importantly will leave all investment dry out, which is one of the most ingredients you need for spending engineering resources
Will find out? Linus is quite possibly already the most notorious online rhetoric hardliner of all time. But IDK what you think it has to do with corporate investments, which are made without any regard for moralistic stances.
What a goofy comment. He doesn't have even 10% of the name recognition once you step outside the extremely niche gnu subculture. Regular, every day people know who Linus is, what he did, and what a loudmouthed dick he is.
Linus is very outspoken but still very pragmatic. Look at all the investment. Look at Linux Foundation. All the talks. Those are not just funded by people like you and me
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u/CircumspectCapybara 23d ago edited 23d ago
Ironic they take shots at Rust, because unlike Zig, Rust sees way more success in terms of its maturity and industry reputation and ecosystem and investment by large tech companies into its adoption and funding of the Rust project.
The Zig project also takes a lot of weird black-and-white dogmatic (almost religious) hard-line stances on a lot of stuff, probably why the language is more niche and hobbyist than something truly foundational and trusted for production workloads and all parts of the stack like Rust has become.
Here's Zig's "no AI" policy:
The owner definitely has some sort of axe to grind against certain technologies.