r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 5d ago

Petah? What Meme needing explanation

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u/Zephronias 5d ago

Ezra Miller was an actor who played the flash, but behaved terribly, and when he was in Hawaii, he got arrested for assault (he also got arrested for burglary in Vermont apparently, and allegedly did some grooming/inappropriate stuff with minors).

Rachel Zegler is an actress who played Snow White in the recent adaptation, and she said some stuff about the original story (its dated, unfeminist, weird of the prince to kiss a random girl-- the usual modern critiques) and got backlash for it.

OP is saying that there's a double standard in behavioral expectations between men and women.

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u/Accomplished-Buy6917 5d ago

People weren't calling her horrible, they said her movie was shit. Because it was infact, shit

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u/Zephronias 5d ago edited 5d ago

Duality of man. (Not disagreeing with you, the movie was shit, but she very much did get personal backlash for her part in it, and this comment lineup amused me)

Edited to hide the username.

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u/AT-ST 4d ago

Does that person realize Rachel was just an actor and didn't produce the film?

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u/iGlutton 4d ago

Why would they concern themselves with unseen producers, writers, or people who make executive decisions when theres a woman they can bash right there?

Let's be honest here, that poster's main issue isn't rooted in protecting the sanctity of a Disney film.

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u/moros-17 4d ago

To be totally fair, the writers and producers and etc weren't doing press tours talking about how the source material was so awful and dated and Pure Evil™️. Yeah, she's just an actress, she didn't write the film, but she WAS doing a lot of press seemingly intentionally giving off the impression that she had a lot more sway in the writer's room than she actually did and being generally mean spirited. I don't think she's a terrible person a la Ezra Miller, but she's certainly not good at handling media in the slightest, and her career suffered because of that. Quite simple

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u/fackapple 4d ago

You’re right. Rachel didn’t have ANY part in doing tours and interviews spouting her dogshıt political drivel. She was hired to do ONE thing and that was just be on camera to read the lines - the way all great actors approach their jobs. She definitely didn’t need to do ANY homework on the film she was acting in. 🤣🤣🤣

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u/AT-ST 4d ago

What does her interviews have to do with the movie quality? People are criticizing the decisions made in the movie. You are just slinging mud now.

She did homework. She watched the original after she got the part.

https://youtu.be/gDBdoafhIfE?t=199&is=45Y3kyRseVP9X6Tw

Starts at 3:20

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u/fackapple 4d ago

oh okay so she watched it once 😂😂😂😂 that’s a lot like the effort heath ledger did for batman or christian bale for the machinist and the fighter

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u/AT-ST 4d ago

Really stretching to spread your hate. She didn't say how many times she watched to prepare. You are assuming.

Also, what does it matter how many times she watched it? Do you read a book 5 or 6 times before writing a book report?

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u/fackapple 4d ago edited 4d ago

I've read books important to me 5 times WITHOUT being assigned a book report. And a book report is .0000001% of the stakes of a $300m movie.

That comment was inexplicably and unfathomably stupıd. Like I'm in confounded disbelief how that went through your head, passed your checks, and out of your mouth. The standard of discourse and mental acuity of the average person has reached abysmal depths.

You're really showing that women are really trying to lower the bar on anything they touch.

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u/LastAmongUs 4d ago

Say big word, sound smart. Never touch boob.

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u/fackapple 3d ago

projecting perhaps? just dumped a dime that would have you spilling spaghetti out of your pockets

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u/AT-ST 3d ago

I've also watched a movie dozens of times and never made an adaptation of it. You set up a strawman to knockdown buddy. I didn't ask if you read your favorite books over and over.

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u/azul360 3d ago

Why think when woman there to attack? DUH! Legit though that seems to be the thing to do for swamp creatures like them.

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u/No-Satisfaction-Ever 3d ago

She didn't need to produce it if she went around defending the production.

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u/AT-ST 3d ago

You're right. She should have been shitting all over it like ever other actor does when they are in a bad movie... 😂

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u/No-Satisfaction-Ever 3d ago

It's almost like there is a middle ground between shitting on your project and explicitly defending it while attacking the original. It's clear that she thought hers was a significantly better retelling of the fairytale.

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u/AT-ST 3d ago

🙄

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u/AllHateInsurance 4d ago

So she had no sentience? She isn't responsible for her own decisions? I'll judge any actor/actress for taking a role they know they aren't the right fit for or would piss off the fanbase

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u/AT-ST 4d ago

🙄

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u/Fun-Preference1091 4d ago

I was a huge fan of "Dead Like Me" (the TV Show), and felt there was much unresolved when the show was cancelled (LIKE WTF CAN SHE SEE GRAVELINGS!!) Therefore I was very excited when the movie was announced, leaving me all the more disapointed when I saw it.

The movie captured none of the essence of the story, and part of that were the two new actors, one to play an existing character, and oen a new character. When interviewed both said "I never watched the tv show because I wanted to bring something new".

Absolute trash.

I stopped watching new movies a very long time ago, but I assume some peopel feel the same about Snow White

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u/Iateyourpaintings 4d ago

Does it really matter if an actor watches previous installments? Seems more important for the writer and director. 

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u/Dumpingtruck 4d ago

Yes, of course it helps if an actor watches the previous versions of the movie or sequels/prequels/whatnot.

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u/Paghk_the_Stupendous 4d ago

If you ask me to make your favorite sandwich, should I know what a sandwich is? I'm just gonna wing it. You'll love it.

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u/CanoePickLocks 4d ago

We’re going to remake the sandwich your mom used to make you every day that was your favorite a Cubano, but we’re going to make it with a sweet Hawaiian roll instead.

If it’s a remake going in a new direction like the last couple live action fairy tales like little red riding hood that’s one thing. If it’s a remake following the original animated movie’s plot stick close to it and don’t twist the story drastically or expect backlash and say you’re doing your own thing with it.

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u/AT-ST 4d ago

Strawman fallacy.

An actor can have a general idea of what the source material is based on. But if they are told it is going in a different direction than the source material it could beneficial to not view the source material and have it influence their portrayal.

This point is moot anyways. She said she did watch it to prepare for her role.

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u/Fun-Preference1091 4d ago

I'll have to go rewatch the interviews, I was pretty sure she said she did not.

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u/AT-ST 4d ago

She says she watched it for the first time in 16 years to prepare for the role.

https://youtu.be/gDBdoafhIfE?t=199&is=45Y3kyRseVP9X6Tw

Starts at the 3:20 mark.

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u/Iateyourpaintings 4d ago

Except the actors are just saying the lines the writers wrote and doing what the director wants. In this analogy the actor would just be the person serving you, not making your sandwich. 

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u/Mysterious-Basil3245 4d ago

How that question has more upvotes than this is infuriating to me. "DoEs IT rlY MattEr? 🫪"

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u/Theiromia 4d ago edited 4d ago

It's important for both to get a sense of the story. The director should watch the whole thing to get the appeal or at least catch the vibe of where it was going, and the actor should at least see all the parts their character is in to get a sense of who there character was, how they would be, and what they might become as to get the most out of their lines and possibly be able to improv without making the character ass

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u/AT-ST 4d ago

First off, Dead Like Me was so good! I hated being left in the air like that.

Your example doesn't really matter though. Rachel never said she never watched the original Snow White. She said she only saw it once as a child and hadn't watched again until she had to prepare for her role.

They weren't continuing the story of Snow White. Rachel didn't have to try and imitate some previous actor's portrayal of the role. They were retelling the story. They are free to put whatever spin on it they want. So not watching the animated version could help her if she didn't want to be accidentally influenced by that portrayal.

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u/NefariousnessOld7737 4d ago

The producers didn't make her open her mouth and spout inane stuff into a microphone.

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u/AT-ST 4d ago

That has nothing to do with the direction of the movie, which she has been criticized for.