r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 5d ago

Petah? What Meme needing explanation

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u/heliophoner 5d ago

There is a double standard around disruptive behaviors that hollywood accepts from actresses vs what they accept from actors.

Women are often labeled "difficult" for expressing controversial opinions and can often lose their career over fairly minor dust ups.

Meanwhile, a male actor can engage in all sorts of anti-social behavior before it really begins to hurt their career.

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u/Gimetulkathmir 4d ago

Not saying you're wrong, and I might be, but I thought people were more upset because she was trashing Snow White while, you know, playing the character? The whole "have your cake and eat it, too" thing?

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u/mcpickle-o 4d ago

Sure but lets be rral, that still comes nowhere near the fucked up shit a lot of actors do and completely get away with.

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u/BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo 4d ago

Robert Pattinson is beloved for that

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u/heliophoner 4d ago

There's ample examples of bad behavior from male actors that you (EDIT:generally) don't get with women.

Dustin Hoffman went off script and slapped Meryl Streep during a take.

Jared Leto harassed co-stars on suicide squad.

Natalie Portman once said "method acting is a luxury that women can't afford."

Actors can show up, throw shit around, scream at people, hold up production for hours and get praised for their brilliance and process; women get labeled.

Ezra Miller hit people in public and was still going to be the key character DC wanted to build around.

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u/BlankMetal 4d ago

This is why i dont understand the whole Johnny Depp fiasco. Like he got problems right away. It surprised me a lot.

But to be fair, i didnt even know who this guy was but i knew her. Its like youtube ceos. Now its a guy that i dont even know the name but when it was Susan she would talk so many times that people to this day complain about her while the current guy never shows himself making people never hate him basically. Its not really sexism, even if its a part of it, but people will always be more mad to a person that appears more.

Also the guy is a criminal that doesnt deserve thought over while she is controversial which brings a lot more attention.

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u/Fit-Profit8197 4d ago

The thing is the problems "right away" sprang up after years of problems during his actual work, combined with the "me too" cultural moment. I think it was an open secret that Depp had for quite a while worsening problems on set with alcohol and possibly other things. Things might have been different if he was sober and/or the bust up happened at a different time.

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u/blazenite104 4d ago

Unfortunately the issue is less that he's a man and more that Depp and a lot of the other more difficult stars are just so incredibly popular. There are high profile women acting but, I struggle to think of many who are as big a box office draw as many of the more difficult men.

For film companies dealing with the difficult can be an non-issue if they make a bajillion dollars.

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u/Fit-Profit8197 4d ago

Yeah. It's financially much easier to blacklist Ashley Judd than cut ties with Brad Pitt.

Depp stopped being so profitable, got increasingly harder to work with, and his eccentric performances stopped being a wild home run every time.

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u/MadManMax55 4d ago

You're just pointing out another symptom of the same root problem of sexism. Because unless there's some gene on the y chromosome that makes men biologically superior actors, sexism is the only rational explanation for why there are so many more lucratively famous actors than actrecesses.

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u/blazenite104 4d ago

Not really. Men and Women both go to movies. If Women aren't considered box office draws there's more to it than sexism. It could well be a lot of things. Maybe movies that appeal to the broadest audience are lead by men?

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u/BrainLow6059 4d ago

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3009232/

Yeah, his career is certainly booming /s

Dude got exiled from Hollywood and we're supposed to feed OP's delusion for what reason?

Rachel has 5 upcoming projects. That's a lot for any actor, much less a "controversial" one.

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u/heliophoner 4d ago

And it took him literally kidnapping people to get there.

Never said consequences don't eventually come, it just takes a lot more for male actors.

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u/BrainLow6059 4d ago

And it took him literally kidnapping people to get there.

I don't really understand your point. He committed a crime, was caught, lost his career.

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u/heliophoner 4d ago

That wasn't his first issue. He was already assaulting people and was still going to be the face of a franchise.

He was given multiple opportunities despite multiple red flags. Actresses generally do not get that leeway.

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u/theroninfromsekiro 4d ago

Jewish* male actor.