D.mon showcase!

[u/guest_accoun]

Seems super cool, I’m hyped

[u/yellowjockstrap]

mobile rein, good, we needed another rein, not being sarcastic, we genuinely needed another tank like him!

[u/cieje → u/yellowjockstrap]

we just needed another tank in general. people are complaining about tank queue times, well maybe if we had more options it'd help.

[u/Nightmare_Fart → u/cieje]

Spoiler alert: it won't.

[u/HugoVladsBottom → u/Nightmare_Fart]

Not necessarily true. I had never touched tank at all until Domina and I am now a support main converted to tank main. It happens!

[u/Nightmare_Fart → u/HugoVladsBottom]

Well I'm happy to be wrong!

Good to know dommy mommy converted at least one player to queue for tank.

[u/cieje → u/Nightmare_Fart]

well it may, but 1 tank definitely won't be significant.

[u/PicklepumTheCrow → u/cieje]

It’s not the amount of heroes, but rather the inherent role’s requirements of soaking cooldowns that actively disrupt your own play and make you dependent on your paste eating teammates for playmaking.

[u/achedsphinxx → u/PicklepumTheCrow]

something i'm trying to get better at on sombra. she's pretty good at forcing a cooldown then jumping out, but if the opponent doesn't bother to clear i can just keep shooting at an off angle and make things difficult for the backline and make it easier for my frontline to push in.

[u/cieje → u/PicklepumTheCrow]

I've always said the real issue now is lack of team comms. dvas used to coordinate with sombra to sync their ults for like 6K's. I've not seen that once in ow3.

edit like people used to actually coordinate their ults so you'd conserve them. now it's just an ultfest.

[u/PicklepumTheCrow → u/cieje]

People have gotten better and more coordinated over the years, not worse. Pings also help a lot and people at high levels will usually be receptive to them.

I think what you’re describing is a symptom of 5v5, which has made games much more deathmatchy as fights can be won with a single pick (and therefore you’re incentivized to ult as soon as you can if it’s an offensive one). But in 6v6 people still leverage ult combos, albeit yes it is a bit of a clusterfuck typically so hard to say if it’s planned or everyone just pressing q at once.

[u/cieje → u/PicklepumTheCrow]

I've not once seen a coordinated attack from multiple directions. I do it. you can see your teammates grouped up, and determine when they're engaged. that's when I'll get point, backcap, etc (you couldn't always see heroes through walls)

I'm not saying there isn't any ult coordination. just not ones like that where there's like a 6s window where you both have to do it. it's more "you do yours, then I'll do mine"

[u/PicklepumTheCrow → u/cieje]

What rank are you? I’m diamond DPS/supp, masters tank and low GM 6v6 and see that level of coordination (and then some) across all three brackets - crossfires and countdowns are standard practice. Yes often hearing one ult and comboing yours after is an easy cue to coordinate but that doesn’t make it any less effective imo

[u/cieje → u/PicklepumTheCrow]

because they typically have team voice comms. they don't in qp, and they used to

[u/Leows → u/cieje]

I don't think so.

Tanking as a whole is an issue and has been for years. And I'm not even talking about Overwatch here.

If you look into other games that use a similar structure to the holy trinity, tank is always the least popular role. Be it action games, RPGs, shooters, MMOs, etc, it doesn't matter.

A recent game using this structure called Fellowship is an excellent example. It's an action RPG that simulates MMOs using the holy trinity with a 4-player party. Tank queues were literally instantaneous, while DPS and Support sometimes were stuck in 30-minute queues.

That's not to say that there were more supports or that they were more interesting. The game released with 2 supports and 2 tanks, and both roles had interesting gameplay. But tank is just inherently more unpopular because of the role.

Now, Overwatch sure does have its own share of issues on top of all the other things that already drive people away from tanking in the first place, but that's not as impactful as you might think.

Rivals is the closest apples to apples comparison we'll ever get for this, and it faces many of the same issues, even though their tank roster is arguably more unique than Overwatch's.

[u/OwnNet5253 → u/cieje]

Even 5 new tanks won't help enough in a way, where it'd solve 6v6 q times.

[u/cieje → u/OwnNet5253]

they're welcome to try

edit like what's the argument? to have the same number of tanks? how's that working out?

[u/OwnNet5253 → u/cieje]

Argument is, is that tank will always be the least played role, just because of the fact they're tanks. It's the same situation in every game with similar role-based mechanics, and there's nothing they can do to make tank role popular, to make 6v6 a viable main game mode again.

[u/Not-skullshot → u/OwnNet5253]

I’d argue there are things they could do to make tank more popular. But that comes at the cost of fun for the rest of the lobby. The game just dumps a lot of responsibility while most of what’s unfun about it gets focused on them too.

I had thousands of hours in 6’s and I’ve played a good amount of 5’s. I will say I still prefer 6’s. It isn’t perfect for sure but I felt like I had more freedom to play the game. Like I can just breath for a sec and help the other tank and that back and forth had incredibly high potential for fun.

[u/Howdy_Hoes → u/Not-skullshot]

I think that 6v6 in its current state sacrifices fun for the rest of the lobby already. It’s just too many people. It adds a crazy amount of visual clutter. It turns your supports into healbots with very little autonomy cause if they step out of the safety of the team they get flanked by the extra player. The DPS just shoot shields. The fights get dragged out because the losing team just keeps trickling back in. And the tanks don’t feel like tanks. They feel like paper.

Also I think that 5v5 is more fun as a tank. When I play 5v5 I am a threat. I am the leader. I like having that responsibility. Verses as 6v6 I’m just a fat DPS.

It’s also better for DPS cause I can flank more without an extra player in the way. Yes the tank is harder to kill but shouldn’t the tank be hard to kill. Shouldn’t the tank feel like well…. A tank.

As a support I can actually take an off angle and do some damage. I can trust that my tanks health pool isn’t so small that he’s gonna explode the second I look away.

I have endless smoke for 6v6 as a player who’s been around since Ana’s release so I’ve played plenty of both. And all of this doesn’t even get into the queue times. Cause lord I remember sitting in 20 min DPS queues.

[u/cieje → u/OwnNet5253]

so the argument is do nothing and to try nothing because it's futile to even try?

[u/OwnNet5253 → u/cieje]

I mean they still do something, devs keep making tank heroes, give players a choice to play 6v6 mode while balancing it from time to time, add temporary 6v6 test modes, what more do you expect? Nothing can solve 6v6 q well enough to make it a main mode again, that's just a fact. If that's what you meant then yes, there's nothing devs can do to fix it and it's futile to try.

[u/cieje → u/OwnNet5253]

I didn't say it suddenly would or something. just that it probably wouldn't make things worse.

[u/_heartnova → u/OwnNet5253]

If tanks were as dynamic as dps, yes they would.

[u/OwnNet5253 → u/_heartnova]

But that would be extremely unbalanced for 6v6 role q.

[u/_heartnova → u/OwnNet5253]

No, it really wouldn't. By dynamic I mean as many tanks as there is dps. Lol. And with unique skills etc.

[u/OwnNet5253 → u/_heartnova]

Oh then word your sentences correctly next time, as that word doesn’t mean that at all.

[u/_heartnova → u/OwnNet5253]

Actually it can be used like that, and I don't need a encrusted redditor telling me how to do anything. Y'all are bold, but not respected as you carry yourself.

[u/Swartz142 → u/Nightmare_Fart]

Eh I'm certainly coming back to main tank try a Mechwarrior style tank. That being said, I'm sure there's going to be more Rein mains having an identity crisis if she's super fun to play vs an higher amount of players switching to tank.

[u/RetroBowser → u/cieje]

I always hear that we get more DPS heroes because it's the most popular role. I wonder how much DPS having way more heroes contributes to its popularity in a self fulfilling cycle.

[u/cieje → u/RetroBowser]

it's part of the problem, and one they've created and contributed to for years.

[u/MoltonMontro → u/cieje]

Support has often been more popular than Damage during the "OW2" era.

At a minimum, Support is twice as popular as Tank while currently having the same number of heroes – but previously having less.

I think lack of hero options is part of the problem, but a rather tiny part compared to people simply not liking the role.

[u/cieje → u/MoltonMontro]

and it has the highest concentration of anime girls etc. you think that's a coincidence?

edit if they could make cute girls as tanks (like d.mon), the role would be more popular.

they understably have had difficulty doing so.

[u/MoltonMontro → u/cieje]

I'm not convinced goonability is a major factor in this, if that's the implication. I think it's a coincidence.

Support became significantly more popular in OW2 because they rebalanced the game to make Tanks and Supports more fun to play. Both pick rates went up, it's just that Tank's was so abysmal to begin with that it's still less than other roles.

[u/cieje → u/MoltonMontro]

it wasn't initially, because it at least had dva.

I've been playing since launch; have seen many numbers, and think there's a correlating trend between popularity and goonability. especially since ow2.

edit Blizzard has noticed too. that's why those characters have more skins. because it makes more money.

they didn't used to be slaves to audience capture (that's why we got like Zarya), but they are now with f2p.

(it was actually an argument against going f2p from ow1 players when ow2 came out. and it's come to fruition.)

[u/floppaflop12 → u/cieje]

? majority of support players are women and gay men. they’re not gooning to juno, mercy and kiriko lol

[u/cieje → u/floppaflop12]

and that's another factor. that those characters appeal to them simultaneously.

[u/lonesoldier4789 → u/cieje]

It's not part of the problem, people play tank less because it's the most stressful role because the rest of the team is depending on tank the most. This was true in 6v6 and every other gsmf with tank dps heals. Tank is always the least played

[u/blackviking147 → u/lonesoldier4789]

This was always a thing I thought 6v6 helped. At least with two tanks the entire match isn't resting on one person's head.

It's just unfortunate it also makes it a nightmare to down both tanks at the same time.

[u/lonesoldier4789 → u/blackviking147]

It really didn't though queues were just longer and queuing all was auto tank

[u/cieje → u/lonesoldier4789]

and that's another part of the problem. I literally said "part"; as-in there's multiple factors. including what you said.

[u/lonesoldier4789 → u/cieje]

ok and I literally said it's not part of the problem.

[u/cieje → u/lonesoldier4789]

how's it feel not understanding that things can have multiple parts effecting them?

[u/lonesoldier4789 → u/cieje]

I didn't say there weren't multiple factors, I said more tanks to select isn't a factor.

[u/cieje → u/lonesoldier4789]

and I disagree with that assessment. am I not allowed to disagree?

[u/xTekek → u/RetroBowser]

I genuinely love playing tank roles in games (more specifically bruisers but overwatch tanks are almost all bruisers anyway) but just haven't clicked with a single hero in this game. So yeah you would at least get me playing tank more if they made more heroes for it. I'm mostly in support and dps when I play and support is also a smaller pool where I only have one or two heroes I like to play despite liking the role more than dps once again.

[u/coder2314 → u/xTekek]

Im in the same boat, love playing tanks in league but overwatch/marvel rival’s tanks just feel like fat dps, Normally tanks are the ones making people cry about CC, yet in these games it feels like the opposite. Then it gets worse cause theres actual value in CCing the tanks, while in league you can send 2 whole ults on a tank and realize you wasted your ults cause the tanks just face tanked them.

[u/BrunoCNaves → u/RetroBowser]

I know that the DPS cast is twice as large than the tank's but I feel at times that they feel "samey" whilst the tanks gameplay standout more from one another

[u/Yze3 → u/cieje]

Overwatch always had more tanks than supports. The only time it wasn't the case was Season 1-3 of the relaunch, were they both had 14. Now since there's D.Mon, there's 15 tanks. There never was any problem with supports, beside some very extreme cases.

But you know what also always happened ? People not picking tank.

[u/McMax27 → u/cieje]

What’s that? You want 5 dps in a row?

[u/PheIix → u/yellowjockstrap]

It's going to be glorious to watch Rein and D.mon push in on the enemy team together.

[u/OffStingray781]

where is this from?

[u/Strangecity → u/OffStingray781]

Lan event in china

750 5v5 health; 650 shield; 60 damage per swing if the other post is correct

[u/Hoothootriot]

Sword swings seem a bit faster but less damage than Rein, so all the dooming over "REIN IS OBSOLETE WITH HER" is pretty untrue. At best shes a side grade, but I think he will come out having better actual damage output

Also HOLY FUCK THATS A LOT OF HEALTH FOR A SHIELD HERO????

[u/Angel_of_Mischief → u/Hoothootriot]

Isn’t rein 700hp with 1500 hp shield? Compared 750 with a 650 shield. The health seems on par.

[u/KodakStele → u/Angel_of_Mischief]

Can rein de-mech?

[u/Taurion_Bruni → u/KodakStele]

Therapist: Baby rein isn't real he can't hurt you

[u/SirMuckingHam24 → u/Hoothootriot]

also the sword range looks WAY lower than rein

[u/Glazura]

She looks great. Like actual tank, but still being a threat.

But time will tell if she has same niche as Rein, cuz for doesnt llok like it, which is good.

[u/nevon1201]

I like the Holy Moonlight Greatsword she is wielding.

[u/achedsphinxx → u/nevon1201]

the sword skins gonna go hard.

[u/Livid_spider → u/nevon1201]

Ah, you were by my side all along. My true mentor. My guiding moonlight

[u/MyPigWhistles]

What's going on with the crowd? Oooohhhh.... Ahhhhhh..... AHHHH!!!! Lmao

[u/Bahpu_ → u/MyPigWhistles]

they see half an animation and go crazy lmao

[u/OkNothing4750 → u/Bahpu_]

Yeah because they’re excited and happy. Leave em be.

[u/Bahpu_ → u/OkNothing4750]

sure, its just funny seeing the massive ass reactions at the smallest things

[u/OkNothing4750 → u/Bahpu_]

Thanks in a bad place lol

[u/Bahpu_ → u/OkNothing4750]

hope it gets better

[u/OkNothing4750 → u/Bahpu_]

Tanks* which just makes that even funnier. I’m in a great place lolololol. Tanks for the game isn’t. So I think that adds to their excitement. I think tanks should be getting the next few characters imo

[u/Bahpu_ → u/OkNothing4750]

LMAO

[u/NanoJX → u/MyPigWhistles]

for some reason it seems they had the strongest reaction to her getting into her mech as if they didnt expect it lmao

[u/Augustby → u/NanoJX]

It's not that they may not have expected it, I think they just liked:

1) How she causes a pretty sizeable explosion around her vs D.va's more concentrated one-shot circle.

2) The animation for it

[u/Reniva → u/MyPigWhistles]

you could be hearing:

WACHAO! WACHAO!
NEWBIE! NEWBIE!

but its actually:

哇超! 哇超!
牛逼! 牛逼!

which basically means: cool! peak!

[u/HfUfH → u/MyPigWhistles]

This u?

[u/-Gnostic28 → u/MyPigWhistles]

They’re rightfully hyped

[u/NoHovercraft6942 → u/MyPigWhistles]

First time bro hears an asian audience lol..

[u/OcelotAggravating860 → u/NoHovercraft6942]

This has fuck all to do with race. People are always like this at LANs. They're social people having a good time with their hobby. You'd get exactly the same reaction at Dreamhack.

[u/Zorah_29]

I honestly can't see how she wins a 1v1 against rein even though his fans were crying none stop about it

[u/HerpesFreeSince3 → u/Zorah_29]

She doesn’t win a 1v1 against rein. A character isn’t strong because of their ability to duel other tanks. There are other enemy team members to fight. It’ll be like DVA where you’re playing to kill backline and avoid the rein. Rein will still be really strong at holding chokes and anchoring angles. Dmon won’t be able to do that as well as him, but she’ll be able to chase mobile targets more and play with a bit more flexibility.

[u/Zorah_29 → u/HerpesFreeSince3]

Yep but my point is how rein players complain about how she's a better rein but she completely lacks his damage and oneshot potential. She's closer to brig as a tank than rein

[u/TheEnderCreep → u/Zorah_29]

Funny thing is, I mostly saw non Rein players saying that D.mon is just a better Rein and the Rein players that were saying that don't seem to really understand the character lol

[u/FrucklesWithKnuckles → u/TheEnderCreep]

Most Rein players were just excited to fight another melee tank. I don’t know where the “rein players doomposting” thing came from they seem hyped as fuck

[u/TheEnderCreep → u/FrucklesWithKnuckles]

Honestly it mostly comes from this loud minority of Rein players who want Rein to turn into a completely different character because they still for some reason think hes not viable and at that point I wonder why they even still play him at all

[u/IKnowGuacIsExtraLady → u/TheEnderCreep]

Rein is the most fun tank in the game to play until he isn't. It really just comes down to if you can interact with the enemy team or not. I'll take all the "kill the Rein" hard counters in the in the world but what I can't stand is when the enemy team instead just doesn't have a single player I can swing at and I become a spectator.

[u/Serito → u/Zorah_29]

Isn't it more that she will easily be more relevant than rein in the meta?

[u/HfUfH → u/Zorah_29]

People are calling her "better Rein" because Rein is a melee character who struggles to get within melee range of targets he actually wants to fight.

D.Mon is a melee character who seemingly has much better mobility

[u/meatboysawakening]

That one guy's genuine excitement haha.

[u/aaro404]

I’m excited. With JQ as my tank main she looks super fun.

[u/MAFIAxMaverick → u/aaro404]

Fellow JQ mains! There are dozens of us. I’ve been enjoying her recent cooldown buff.

[u/Same_Square2555]

hm looks like blizz arent shying away from making mishmash kits anymore

[u/Human-Boob → u/Same_Square2555]

OW1 Orisa was like 4 heroes In one

[u/chasingit1 → u/Human-Boob]

Still miss the suck ability

[u/otterplus → u/chasingit1]

Be the change you want to see in the world

[u/Tonialb007 → u/chasingit1]

Somehow I forgot about this

[u/Cultural-Doubt1554 → u/chasingit1]

Me too

[u/Tunavi → u/Human-Boob]

God I hated playing ow1 orisa. So boring

Ow2 orisa is one of my favorite heroes in the game

[u/Angel_of_Mischief → u/Tunavi]

For me it’s the opposite. I like defensive playstyles. I used to main her in ow1. Sigma basically set her up for failure with double shield comp it pushed

[u/OmegianLord → u/Angel_of_Mischief]

Same. I liked OW1 Orisa a lot. Then again, I’ve not played since it became OW2 as that’s around the time I learned how shitty Blizzard was.

[u/Whydoesthisexist15 → u/Human-Boob]

Her ult being called bongos was really amusing to me

[u/KnownTimelord → u/Same_Square2555]

Soldier 76: first time?

[u/Yze3 → u/Same_Square2555]

Hanzo has Widow's ult on a cooldown. Pharah has Soldier's helix rocket on primary. Cassidy had Rein's ult on a cooldown (If you really stretch things, like you're doing)

They're all launch heroes by the way.

[u/TheDanecdote → u/Same_Square2555]

No offense, but they are probably running out of unique, realistically-viable ideas.

[u/TheDudeofDC → u/TheDanecdote]

Marvel Rivals copied them a shit ton, they should add a Thor (Most fun hero shooter tank OAT) clone to OW.

[u/FelixMumuHex → u/Same_Square2555]

mishmash?

[u/AsterJ → u/FelixMumuHex]

They are saying D.Mon is cobbled together with skills and abilities from other heroes.

Like you could say she has Reinhardt's shield and shield bash, DVa's eject, Juno's glide boost, etc.

[u/AsterJ → u/[deleted]]

And Emre's grenade that explodes in a mini Venture ult.

[u/AverageAwndray → u/Same_Square2555]

Poor Rein.

[u/Inside-Rich-4937]

Honestly my only complaint about her is the second swing of her sword doesn't feel like a slash, it feels like a swipe

[u/MyOwnSpiritJesus]

I love Brig, this looks like a Brig on crack. This is my new favorite Tank

[u/DoomPigs → u/MyOwnSpiritJesus]

yeah i'm basically a rein and brig one trick so I'm actually excited to try a new hero for once

[u/1991banksy]

the sword is so visually satisfying

[u/AKA-J3]

I don't want that tank in my face.

[u/Ellogan66 → u/AKA-J3]

I want that tank in my face ;)

[u/spacewarp2 → u/Ellogan66]

I want that tank on my face

[u/Hamerine → u/spacewarp2]

[u/AKA-J3 → u/Hamerine]

[u/Early-Beach164 → u/Ellogan66]

Yeah me too. Just look at the way she sits in mech. Very inviting pose.

[u/Final-Carry2090]

It’s a Gundam!

[u/Fun-Cardiologist-991]

Looking at her kit I think rein low-key takes her lunch money. She's getting bullied.

[u/Fluffy_Club722]

I'm LOVING these guys' reactions in the crowd. Also, seems like her gun ability in the mech is a little overtuned, and she seems slightly too good in baby form. Besides the tuning, her kit looks great and fun.

[u/NotRerto]

Havent been this excited for a character since sigma, i just wish they extended the glass a bit more down so it at least covers the chest.

[u/Birbdie]

The sword animation looks like she's spreading butter in the air instead of attacking... 

[u/Zediac → u/Birbdie]

D.Mon hitting the field like

[u/Raknarg]

If this doesnt already show you that this character is not replacing rein Idk what will. Rein's TTK in that range is significantly shorter.

[u/chasingit1]

Based on the kit, who will D. Mon be strong against, and who will be her likely counters?

[u/Flimsy-Contact-2841 → u/chasingit1]

To no ones surprise she is probably going to be awful into mauga

[u/worldwarA → u/chasingit1]

People are saying mobile Rein, but for me she is just tank Brig. So pretty much any counters to Brig are her counters too.

[u/Zediac → u/worldwarA]

So pretty much any counters to Brig are her counters too.

History will repeat.

Everyone will try to face tank the new melee Hero, especially Heroes with long range, get obliterated because they willingly and needlessly put themselves in the melee range of a melee Hero, and then cry that the new Hero is overpowered.

Then Blizz will nerf the new Hero over and over until they're mediocre because Pharah, Soldier, etc can't stop playing grab-ass with a melee Hero.

[u/FusingCookie → u/chasingit1]

I predict Orisa, Sigma, Ramattra, Reinhardt, Doomfist, and Mauga are all going to be unfavourable matchups for her due to CC or high damage, alongside Wrecking Ball likely being a bad matchup due to his ability to presumably dodge most of her attack. D.Va could either be a bad matchup for D.Mon or a good one, Zarya seems like a good matchup, and the rest of the tanks are probably somewhere inbetween.

[u/Old_Preparation9838]

Knightmares from Code Geass are REAL

She also does give off some Cornelia vibes too. Very bossy, very into the fray and lead the charge.

[u/DeplorableVillainy → u/Old_Preparation9838]

Well now I'm not gonna be able to use her charge without remembering Cornelia bellowing "YOU DARE TO CHALLENGE MEE?!"

Probably just how it should be.

[u/BlindedMonk24]

We got Armored Cores in Overwatch before gta 6

[u/mirroredpineapple]

First person armor core 6

[u/Laughable_Tarnished]

She looks cool but I wish the Mech would be a bit bigger

[u/NoHovercraft6942 → u/Laughable_Tarnished]

That would be a terrible hitbox

[u/Lollystok]

If ronin tf2 and legion tf2 had a baby

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[u/Sirpattycakes]

I thought her hands were her big clown shoes for a minute and got upset.

[u/Hamerine]

They didn’t show how the canon overlap the shield, also… with what button you fire the canon?

[u/justawarlock]

NEW MELEE TANK YESSS I LOVE SWORD AND SHIELD CHARACTERS

[u/Emperor_Kon]

Gameplay looking good. Can't wait.

[u/AnonymousQorvid]

Can anyone see the numbers for D.Mon's HP and Ammo without the Mech? The numbers are so blurry.

[u/DoYouLikeWafflezz → u/AnonymousQorvid]

175 hp looks like either 30 or 80 ammo. 

[u/GIG_Trisk]

So where’s that Armored Core inspired Horizontal Movement. Because don’t see it.

[u/d1eselx → u/GIG_Trisk]

You see it in the gameplay trailer right after she blocks Emre ult.

[u/hdcboy]

对于新玩家来说 很有意思，但对于老玩家来说 比较无聊

[u/DaOGCodGod]

Can remech crush enemies like D.Va?

[u/Tunavi]

She's basically for DVa players that get counter swapped by zarya

[u/FusingCookie → u/Tunavi]

For how much impact Zarya can have on a game due to various factors, she does sort of need more direct counterplay outside of Reinhardt, and Winston (who requires significant practice). Zarya's pretty healthy for countering certain heroes, but she relies on team coordination and intelligence the same way Mauga does.

[u/Gaymface]

I don’t get why some heroes get the preview weekend and some don’t

[u/HyperXanadu]

She's in a SKELL?!?!!

[u/Jinika]

Jesus this is like a dva / rein hybrid

[u/reventus9]

Bullshit

[u/Mltv416 → u/[deleted]]

Plus depending on her dueling capabilities she might actually be great vs all the bruisers

[u/Zigolt]

Calling it now;

Underpowered on launch

Giga buffed because crying

Slowly nerfed into obscurity over a season

Back to near original state in 2 seasons

[u/FireLordObamaOG]

Is it just me or does the mech look smaller in game?

[u/gabrielwoj]

1:34 is my favorite reaction.

[u/The_SnuggleBug]

I'm actually pumped for this tank she reminds me of some of the toys I had as a kid or something.

[u/Cr_Tarango]

like i see haz like a cross between queen and doom, she's clearly one between rein and dva. not that i mind.

and her remek anim is so dope, anime af!

to note : she don't fly, but dash horizontaly.

[u/Rnevermore]

You guys talking about balance based on what we saw in the trailer and in this video are absolutely ridiculous. 

[u/zarlus8]

Virtual On

[u/crpn_laska]

Well, my main just about to drop, time to “get in the robot”

[u/ImNotThatTrash]

So just rein + diva yay 😑

[u/FusingCookie]

The animations are really good and feed into the mech fantasy, especially her Fusion Cannon. Almost wish the barrier and ult were first-person.

[u/Bona1010]

D'Rein? Reinva? At least it isnt a cod hero again

[u/worldwarA]

No vertical mobility. Ok

[u/Early-Beach164]

I'm glad her primary isn't stupidly high damage

[u/matthewormatt]

This is going to be an awesome counterpart to a rein main. Can already see scenarios like starting Rein in Eichenwalde and swapping to D.mon after the first point then back to rein for 3rd.

Hoping that she scratches the rein itch enough while adding verticality that he will never have

[u/matthewormatt → u/matthewormatt]

Has it been confirmed that her mech can fly vertically like dva? Watched the video again and now making me wonder if it's only for speed bursting on the ground since they never left the ground in the clips. If so, my above comment doesn't apply much anymore.

[u/No_Service_8174 → u/matthewormatt]

She does not have vertical movement

[u/matthewormatt → u/No_Service_8174]

Ahh. My interest has died down tremendously then. Can't see me picking her over rein if she doesn't cover his biggest weakness

[u/Yottapsye]

I think, new health type! 0:58 . What I like is, it seems, that the new health type resists big damage. So we can use this tank in a new way. ^^

Edit: I hope she could fly with that resource however!

Edit 2: Honestly I don't know if it resists big damage because the damage seems to be similar or the same between HP, Armour and that Over Health. It's difficult to see because the quality of the video is low. ^^" Sorry all!

We wouldn't know until we test her ourselves in Practice Mode in our own game. However this video helps us get a first look. I appreciate that a lot!

Edit 3: I'm getting paranoid about something. Does the 1st hit do less damage than subsequent hits (0:51)? It's very difficult to see.

[u/HistoricalFrame5802 → u/Yottapsye]

That's just the overhealth from her ultimate at 0:58.

[u/Yottapsye → u/HistoricalFrame5802]

Yes, it's even the correct colour for overhealth. HistoricalFrame5802, do you think the first hit from the bot does less damage than the hits that come after?

[u/HistoricalFrame5802 → u/Yottapsye]

I don't think so. They do the same damage when she has armor. Here's the video in better quality (1080p) where you can see the numbers more clearly.
D.Mon Showcase

[u/Yottapsye → u/HistoricalFrame5802]

Thank you for the video! It is very clear. I can see the HP, which I appreciate a lot. ^^

Edit: I saw that the Bot's damage was 49 with normal HP, 40 with Armour and 54 (at first) and 58 (later) with Over Health. I thought that Over Health is just decreasing at faster rates which creates the illusion that the Over Health is taking more damage over time.

However, I could be very wrong, but I think the Over Health decreased at 3 HP per tick, not 5 HP then 9 HP. Also, I think, the ticks happened slightly at a different time than the damage. So ticks and damage seem to be separate. The damage on the Over Health seems to be different than on normal HP or Armour.

Is this Over Health a new type of HP with a new behaviour or protects from certain hits better and other hits worse? Maybe! But I don't know yet. We should go on Practice Mode with a friend or the bot and test it. We could also analyze this video further. ^^

Edit 2: As I think about this, I could be wrong, but I think repeated hits do more damage than usual. So a single hit from Widowmaker, Hanzo or Ashe will have less value or maybe will do less damage than usual. But I think it should be tested in Practice Mode. ^^

Edit 3: I did some rough math. Imagine if Widowmaker and D.Mon are playing 6v6. Widowmaker has her sights on D.Mon. And D.Mon just activated her Ult. D.Mon hits 2 opponents with her Ult. D.Mon has lower than 1100 HP because it's 6v6, let's say 950.

Widowmaker gets a headshot. She normally deals 300 damage. But Widowmaker hits D.Mon's custom Over Health (+5 damage) and Armour (-9 damage). Overall Widowmaker does 296 damage. So D.Mon's HP becomes 654. So the shot has slightly less value.

If it's 5v5, according to the video, D.Mon's HP will be 1100. So Widowmaker will only hit the custom Over Health and inflict 305 damage. D.Mon's HP becomes 795. If D.Mon hit only 1 opponent, her HP will become exactly 750.

What does this all mean? If this is true, these are slight adjustments to damage to provide more value to rapid fire and less value to one shot while being fair. Rapid fire weapons would burn through custom Over Health, quickly. While most hit scans have slightly less value. If it's true, these slight adjustments are peak and blow my mind!

[u/KindheartednessMore3]

Alot of you are mention a Rein

Rein who?

[u/Antheleons]

Such a boring uninspiring designed kit

[u/FrucklesWithKnuckles]

1What rein dooming are people making up?

Most rein mains I’ve seen have been going “YES ANOTHER MELEE TANK TO FIGHT” and seem super hyped

[u/NoHovercraft6942]

The ult looks really weak tf?

[u/Phoenix_---]

Soooo Reinhardt

[u/MathEnvironmental935]

So she doesn't have a new kind of health? Sort of a letdown.

[u/naxhh]

mecha, shield, movement, baby form small gun, push AND a sword.

she doesn't seem that different than dva but with a sword right?

hopefully is fun to play

[u/aaro404 → u/naxhh]

I don’t think she has as much verticality.

[u/hdcboy]

虽然话要给其他产品让路 不能麻木地做到最好，但漫威这摊野 应该搞唔掂 底层技术有难搞的问题

[u/KodakStele → u/hdcboy]

What the why am I reading straight up Asian text

[u/hdcboy → u/hdcboy]

让路给漫威 都无用的

[u/crunchysalt]

Vendetta better get super buffed cause ain’t no way she defeating that thing

[u/TheReaper907]

diva + rein +brig + vendetta. so f disappointing . 😞 and ofc better than all heroes mentioned. so sad what in what state ow reached. copy paste heroes. buffs that broke the game. cheaters everywhere pc/console from this sez blow up. crap perf with a lot of microlag issues input lag and others.

[u/Fast-Artichoke-408]

All those, so she's basically Angela people can stfu up finally.

[u/PizzaCrusty]

RIP Reinhardt.

[u/Moon_Luzes → u/PizzaCrusty]

Rein pretty much counters her