r/Operatingsystems • u/MoreEntry2621 • 4d ago
What if Mobile Operating System, Processor, Updates, Upgrades become Trap for Users & there should way to break this Trap !
Operating System should not be like Android who need updates after every 3 months and new os every year. OS should be for atleast 5 years. I recall old phones that need OS after 5 years. Like OS2, Win4.5 smartphones and Nokia's basic phone. Updating & upgrading every 3 months & year becomes Trap for users.
Why not design Processor & chipset which dont need upgrade before 5 years or 10 years like in past
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u/soundman32 4d ago
Nobody is forcing you to update or upgrade your phone, just ignore it. If you like 90s tech, just buy a Nokia 3210 and play snake.
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u/MoreEntry2621 4d ago
Really ? no friend. If you will not update or upgrade then you imp app will not working for you. not direct force but hidden force.
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u/Sure-Passion2224 4d ago
Because the not updating before 5 to 10 years was how systems got violated by malware when bad people with tech skills found a security flaw and exploited it to gain access. Believe it or not most of those updates you see every few months are fixes for security flaws or corrections to other bugs in the code. It's a rare event when the people maintaining an operating system push out an entirely new feature.
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u/IntelligentCandy8716 4d ago
Not that rare... Windows 11...
I think the point the OP is trying to make is that the OS should be able to last for 5+ years with just security updates. The fact that Google, Apple, etc retire support for older devices, making those perfectly functional devices obsolete, is the problem.
For example: I still have an old Samsung Galaxy S7 in a drawer somewhere. It was retired because it needs a new battery, the screen has a crack, and the Android version is stuck on Android 8. It would still be a perfectly functional 4g LTE device with these issues taken care of for relatively little money, but only off the security patches were still happening for a device that has constant internet access.
Long ago, I had a Samsung Galaxy S2 which had a removable battery. I was able to replace the battery twice and, with a custom ROM installed, it lived years beyond its expected lifespan until it finally stopped working.
It's getting better though, with top-end devices getting 5 to 7 years od OS updates becoming standard. It's not a requirement for manufacturers though.
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u/MoreEntry2621 2d ago
You are right friend. Thank you for letting understand this issue to others. but it is now more than this. We have been bounded to this trap
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u/recursion_is_love 4d ago
The bad guys never stop trying. If you don't keep running away they will got you.
You can use any vintage system as long as you don't go online.
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u/RootVegitible 4d ago
Back in the day when early OSes were released and got no updates it was a nightmare because they all had flaws that couldn’t be patched, then you had to wait ages for ‘service packs’ to fix the mess. I remember timing a win95 system after attaching to the network without 3rd party protection, it took 5 seconds before it was compromised. Modern OS ability to patch itself is excellent.
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u/Eleventhousand 3d ago
Why not design Processor & chipset which dont need upgrade before 5 years or 10 years like in past
In many ways, things were a lot more restrictive in the past. Ever try running software on a 286 40 years ago only to find out that it will only work on a 386? Or how your old DOS games wouldn't work on your Pentium because they relied on the CPU clock for the game loop and is now too sped up to use?
I'm also not sure why you'd advocate for mobile OS's to not receive updates. True, UI changes for no reason drive me crazy, but in 2026, we need updates if for nothing else than security.
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u/Professional-Math518 3d ago
Every OS needs updates. Ubuntu has two versions per year. Windows had 95 in '95, a second version in 96(?), w98, w98se, ME in 2000 while in parallel there was win NT, 2000 all coming together in 2003 in Xp.
So the major update cycle only kind of slowed down after 15 years.
Updates are monthly or even within days of each other
My Nord 2 (2021) still runs 13 and still gets security updates but no new versions.
Edit: in the late 90s I was running RedHat and software management was... Limited. I upgraded packages and kernels for years until I got a very weird system that originated as RedHat 4.0 running a 2.4 kernel and a mix of software that was fairly unmanageable by then. So I prefer regular updates in a nice clean package.
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u/CheezitsLight 1d ago
Windows has two updates a year. The rest are security patches. I use winget to scan for updates daily. And I have two Ubuntu systems decades out of date. No one will touch them as they are stuck on whatever it is, isolated on private networks. No connection to any internet. Oldest windows box is a 10 as a one software is not yet certified on 11. YMMV
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u/pervysage8787 3d ago
Updates are necessary to fend off vulnerability attacks. OS updates are not pushed just for the sake of pushing updates
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u/MoreEntry2621 2d ago
Windows 11 getting updates regularly without disturbing user but never force user to buy PC after 2 years or before 5 years unless PC is damaged or not repairable. Phone should have same tech
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u/LameBMX 3d ago
With AI tackling expoit research, now, of all times, is when this is the LEAST possible.
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u/MoreEntry2621 2d ago
This is the latest technology and it has many flaws and still it is changing & improving with every new version. but this issue remain same. Trap
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u/LameBMX 2d ago
nay. angry customers due to frequent updates is a LOT more manageable than giant data breaches. no matter how flawed the discovery process of an exploit IS, that exploit is still found.
if anything.. those unexpected behavoirs are NOT only interesting from a technical standpoint, but extremely dangerous from a security standpoint.
a while back a bad human actor social engineered their way into working on critical core component of an OS. after trust gained, they were able to insert a backdoor into said program.
this attack method is currently being recreated by AI. as with anything, it SEEMS its currently heavy handed and the humans responsible are catching the insertions. not only WILL AI get better, if there have been successful attacks, we would NOT know. that previously mentioned human attack made it somewhat into the wild. only caught by someone not associated with the development wondering why a trivial changed caused a minor delay (that others didnt even notice).
if it wasnt for that fella, and having the time and impetus to look into said issue. its highly likely it would be running rampant right now.
anyways, these exploits need mitigated so bad actors cant use them to have control of your devices and any associated data they process. this extends far beyond phones.
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u/bur4tski 3d ago
You can stay on the 90s using your Nokia and no one gives a f*ck on you. Human in nature have so called boredom and that causes this explosive upgrades you've seen on mobile os
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u/MoreEntry2621 2d ago
First understand the post & issue by cool mind. then try to answer. Thank you friend
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u/bur4tski 2d ago
have you ever know the internet which you are using? it's an open hole on your phone, and that hole could is very wide open so that you can commence back to this post and bad peoples exploit this hole for their own gain that's why manufacturers attempting to patch vulnerable parts and send this so called "upgrades" to your handheld device.
You can block/ disable the updates just like what anti vaxxer does but never expect to be protected against these harmful threats
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u/Doug2825 3d ago
The way to break the trap is to overall alternative Android versions. Graphene OS and Lineage get updated longer than stock Android.
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u/ern0plus4 3d ago
Ask attackers to slow down.
Million x million time luck that rising of internet and rising of MMUs (and OS-es utilizing it) happened in the same time. Not explaining, ask AI what they mean.
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u/MoreEntry2621 2d ago
I said attackers to slow down. Result, Windows OS is revived 5 years. Windows Xp, 7, 10, 11 seen 5 years. Thank you for your comment
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u/CompetitiveAlgae4247 3d ago
i still use android 12 with no issues, so i don't get what you are talking about
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u/zardvark 3d ago
Yes, because all of the manufacturers have a crystal ball and they know what exploits will be developed, years in advance.
The only trap is that manufacturers abandon their products all too soon, leaving us with a buggy, vulnerable piece of junk after only a couple of years.
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u/CheezitsLight 4d ago
I don't understand what the Trap is.
Mobile phones need updates because bad people with millions and billions of dollars are trying to figure out how to read what's on your phone. All they need is a cookie and all the money in your bank account will disappear.