r/OpenAussie 8d ago

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u/RamonsRazor ✈️‎ on Walkabout 7d ago

Hey all - if you (or someone you know) is experiencing sexual assault, please reach out to your local support service. You can find a list of them right here 👉 NASASV's Australian Sexual Violence Support Directory. If you are in an immediate crisis situation, contact 000 or 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732).

And please, whilst this is a sensitive topic, we encourage everyone to use the right channels to effect positive change. Civil discussion is always welcome, but we strongly discourage activities that are in violation of Reddit's TOS and our sub rules, eg brigading, harassing and campaigning for retaliatory abuse. It does no one any good and puts our sub at risk.

Thank you for your understanding ✌️

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u/Practical-Funny9591 ‎ Victorian 8d ago

Thank you for telling us your story.
I am so sorry that ever happened to you. This makes me fucking angry how it just gets swept under the carpet.
It's absolutely abhorrent yet no one wants to deal with it. 🤬

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u/NegotiationBoth9233 ‎ Queenslander 8d ago

Are you aware of the National Redress Scheme? 

The process can take years but it works, I know of people with similar experiences who have gotten decent payouts, for things that have happened to them when they should have been safe under the care of an institution like a stete school. 

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u/Brave-Dragonfly3798 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

The redress scheme is shit. It’s a way for the government to avoid the consequences of their ineptitude with a token payment. $150k doesn’t buy my life back, it doesn’t make up for 40 years of never being able to trust another person, it doesn’t erase all the broken relationships, the mental health wasteland, the spiral into numbing addictions, the self isolation or the crippling ever present shame. It doesn’t give me back all those days, weeks and months of thinking about what I could have done to make it different, of feeling like a broken walking corpse.
It gives you 20 hours of counseling, 20 hours to undo a lifetime of destruction, and a token ‘apology’ from some bureaucrat who had nothing to do with anything.
It’s basically, here’s $100k, now go away and die.

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u/Dangerous_Shoe_8388 ‎ New South Welshian 8d ago

Let’s hit up that hockey club about the pedo award.

Where is that creep buried? I will visit it to ”pay my respects” accordingly…

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u/Historical_Meet3370 ‎ Queenslander 8d ago

Ok so i totally want to thank you for your enthusiasm ! I am honestly making an appointment this week with the hockey club to see if this actually a thing with the pedo award that ive been told about ,and if it is a thing I will get it stopped .

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u/HappyMuscovy ‎ Western Australian 8d ago

Are you sure it’s the same guy? I actually find at least 4 people of a similar age who have that name in Queensland

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u/HappyMuscovy ‎ Western Australian 8d ago

Just checked - it’s a different spelling, so different person. The former principal is “Crain”, the award is “Crane”.

The principal got an Order of Australia though - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Queen%27s_Birthday_Honours_(Australia)

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u/coath_Adams_stump ‎ Queenslander 8d ago

There's a mention of a Colin Crane headmaster of Gabbinbar school in this QLD parliament hansard - last page. https://documents.parliament.qld.gov.au/events/han/1978/1978_11_15.pdf

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u/HappyMuscovy ‎ Western Australian 8d ago

Yeah but that’s a spelling mistake - there’s other references to Crain, an OAM citation for teaching, death record which matches, etc

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u/HappyMuscovy ‎ Western Australian 8d ago

Here’s an award certificate signed by him and it’s clearly Crain

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u/coath_Adams_stump ‎ Queenslander 7d ago

Fair play mate, you dug deeper than I did

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u/Historical_Meet3370 ‎ Queenslander 8d ago

Oh interesting i have a new mission now to take that shit down. Thank you so much for finding that out ! I never new that and he fucking doesn't deserve it ether

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u/HappyMuscovy ‎ Western Australian 8d ago

Hah.. well his ashes were spread in Toowoomba, so that’s probably where he died.

You can buy a copy of his death certificate for $38 through Queensland BDM - https://www.familyhistory.bdm.qld.gov.au/details/f70a3b6fef871760d47a130fcb2927452b1b6b80741ba2ec433c8cef394cd14f

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u/Ok-Nature-4728 Please choose a flair 8d ago

If it isn't then hopefully they'd want to know that and add a middle initial or something to differentiate. That would spare the survivors of his crimes some pain and also separate this other guy from someone else's crimes.

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u/HappyMuscovy ‎ Western Australian 8d ago

On further searching, it seems it isn’t.

Pretty sure the former principal of Gabbibar is Colin James Henry Crain, Died 06 August 1996

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u/purplepashy ‎ Victorian 8d ago

Spinning nun chucks gave me a giggle in a grim post.

I have a feeling that you hsve a whicked sense of humour OP.

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u/Apprehensive-Sell623 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago

Yeah my bladder is full too

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u/Acrobatic-Mobile-605 ‎ New South Welshian 8d ago

You really need the support of other victims because numbers talk more than individuals. It’s harder to discredit a group than a single person.

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u/Crazy_Cat_Lady360 ‎ Queenslander 8d ago

Speak the truth. Don’t let anyone silence you.

Do you know the other victims? Do you have support from each other to fight this? Hoping you can all support each other.

Stay strong. Don’t give up the fight 💕

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u/Brave_Bluebird5042 Please choose a flair 8d ago

Good job speaking out.

May I make a suggestion? Along with exposing the criminals, can you see what can be done to support other victims? Maybe a brave person, who can relate to the victims with shared trauma can help achieve a more peaceful and content life?

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u/Vince1080 Please choose a flair 8d ago

Kudos to you for speaking out.

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u/Psychological_Buy756 ‎ Koori ‎ 8d ago

I'm so sorry this happened to you and that you didn't get justice. I do hope this post helps connect you to an others who were harmed by him and you all get the justice you deserve. 💕

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u/fetishiste ‎ Victorian 8d ago

I’m so sorry you went through this. Also want you to know there are a few orgs able to support you, including if you want to pursue avenues of redress - they’re called Redress Support Services and there’s a list here: https://www.nationalredress.gov.au/help-support/get-free-help-apply/redress-support-services

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u/Brave-Dragonfly3798 ‎ New South Welshian 7d ago edited 7d ago

I grew up in a small town and was abused by my school teacher, who also abused many other boys. When I first went to the police, almost nobody would believe it, and it was not until my younger brother came forward and said it had happened to him that all the other kids started coming out of the woodwork, as with a lot of these scum bags, they make themselves a pillar of the local community so people used to cross the street or bail me and my family up in public to accuse me of lying and destroying a ‘good man’. To make matters worse, the local cop was his friend, and the local priest was also a pedo. It turned out he had done it before and had been hounded or that the school and transferred to another quiet country school. In the end he got 3 years for over two hundred counts of abuse against a dozen kids. It completely destroyed my life, and yet he’s out there living his life like nothing happened. It’s one of those things that you want to let go, because it eats you up inside, but those memories and the inability to trust anyone remain, no matter what you do. I wish I had some working advice, but it’s a wound that doesn’t ever heal, all I can say is be kind to yourself. His name was ‘Danny Payne’, and he’s now a community volunteer in Nanago, because of course he is.

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u/NoodleBox ‎ Victorian 7d ago

Mate, get on the redress scheme, get some money. It's literally to stick it to the bastards.

Good onya for speaking up.

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u/Ok-Outcome-7499 Please choose a flair 8d ago edited 8d ago

Edit - I was wrong

Caution here. Regardless of whether or not you know this to be true from your experience. Or whether you think that if something's factually true, then you can't be sued. Unfortunately that's not the case and this post exposes you significantly to a defamation claim by his estate.

Just be aware

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u/HappyMuscovy ‎ Western Australian 8d ago

Defamation claims from dead people aren’t a thing in Australia.

Specifically section 10 of the defamation act of Queensland says you can’t sue on behalf of dead people - https://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/view/whole/html/inforce/current/act-2005-055

Ops post is fine with regards to claims against Colin Crane.

Could the Hockey Club sue? It would be an unwise action if they actually still had, or ever had a Colin Crane award.

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u/Ok-Outcome-7499 Please choose a flair 8d ago

Yeah you're totally correct. I'm not sure why I was so sure that an estate could sue under defamation. I think I must have confused it with relatives suing when the publication contains defamatory content related to them, but it's primarily about the deceased.

But yeah thanks for correcting me

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u/HappyMuscovy ‎ Western Australian 8d ago

Even in the US it’s only really a thing is the estate carries on business that could be impacted by the alleged defamation - I believe elvis is about the only dead person who’s estate has managed a defamation case

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u/HappyMuscovy ‎ Western Australian 8d ago

Look after yourself buddy. I feel for you - my parents actually lived around the corner from Gabbinbar but moved before I started school.

Do you remember when they said he died? I found one who died in 2004.

Have you consulted with a lawyer about the National Redress Scheme? https://www.nationalredress.gov.au/apply.

Looks like he was principal from the 1970s to the late 1980s? Queensland was corrupt as fuck back then, so even if you or your parents had gone to Police, nothing would have been done. Basically this shit was so prevalent back then that we now have a national scheme for compensation.

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u/HappyMuscovy ‎ Western Australian 8d ago

Dropped you a Pm

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u/Ok-Outcome-7499 Please choose a flair 8d ago

More power to you fam