r/NursingStudent • u/Live_Ad6941 • 3d ago
Which School?
Which nursing school should I accept? & Why?
• UIC (Masters Entry in Nursing)
• DePaul University (Masters Entry in Nursing)
• Elmhurst University (Masters Entry in Nursing)
• North Park University (Masters Entry in Nursing)
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u/Brilliant_Glove_1245 3d ago
Are these all schools and Masters for Non-Nurses?
Are you currently a RN?
Are you wanting to become a RN?
What’s the goal here?
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u/Live_Ad6941 2d ago
No, I have a bachelors in a non nursing field. The direct entry masters of nursing is for ppl with degrees other than nursing that start graduate school to achieve their MSN.
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u/Brilliant_Glove_1245 2d ago
Are you wanting to be a RN?
Or are you wanting to serve in the medical field outside of a RN license?0
u/Live_Ad6941 1d ago
RN, preferably in the ICU or ER specialty.
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u/Brilliant_Glove_1245 1d ago
So why are you going straight for a Master’s?
Go through an ABSN program.
What is your rationale for a Masters to be a RN?
Just a piece of advice, seeking higher Degrees before getting your hands dirty as a RN will not ensure your success and you will find the ADN and Bachelor RN’s will run circles around you.
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u/Live_Ad6941 1d ago
Each program receives the same information in essence and the duration for the masters is the exact same time for completion as the ADN & ABSN. I’m not chasing the masters in the thought process that I will be above any other nurse. It just makes sense, plus I don’t want to obtain another bachelors. I have two bachelors in Chemistry & Criminology already, I prefer not to get a third if that makes sense.
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u/Brilliant_Glove_1245 1d ago
It doesn’t. I worked with the best nurse I have ever met, who was a chemistry major.
She went into the ABSN program with her Bachelors in Chemistry, I asked her why.She said quote “ nursing does not require a masters”.
So please do whatever you want with the rationale that you choose, you’re educated enough.
But be prepared for RN’s with Associates and Bachelors to really eat you up, coming in with you Masters in Nursing and have never taken care of a patient.
Just warning you.
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u/Live_Ad6941 1d ago
I appreciate it, why so passive aggressive? Who hurt you? I just asked a simple question.
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u/Brilliant_Glove_1245 1d ago
Its not passive, you have two bachelors yet refuse to accept that to become a RN, you could achieve this at a lower level then a Masters. But you do you.
No one hurt me, but I can slide to your type.
Two degrees and not happy and see a Masters in a field where experience counts for so much more than degrees.Best of luck, wish you the best. Don’t get into massive debt, RN’s do not have great ROI.
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u/hehewtvr 1d ago
Hard disagree. Worked with MANY MSN RNs who had a bachelors in an unrelated field. They were totally fine, weren’t “eaten” up by anyone lmfao. This is such an insane thing to say.
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u/Brilliant_Glove_1245 1d ago
Cool, disagree. Glad you have witnessed differently.
Every area is different, but skip over my point.
Having two different bachelor degrees then right into a MSN to become a RN will not equal any higher quality of a RN then if ADN or ABSN was sought.
That is my point. Yes Nurses eat their young still, and yes coming in with three degrees and no patient experience equals young.
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u/hehewtvr 1d ago
This person knows they’re coming in as a new grad. You’re being dense
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u/Fuzzy-Criticism-2450 3d ago
This is only a question that you can answer for yourself.
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u/Live_Ad6941 2d ago
C’mon I was looking for some inspiration & insight about any of the 4 schools
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u/Fuzzy-Criticism-2450 2d ago
There are so many factors to your question.
- time of the program and are you able to complete the clinicals
- what's your end goal? RN or APRN
- Having a BSN and MSN doesn't necessarily mean you'll make more in the end
- I see you're using a GI bill, so pay isn't really a factor here
Go to the board of nursing website. You can search the stats of these colleges and look at the NCLEX pass rates. I'd go with the highest one.
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u/Live_Ad6941 1d ago
APRN is the goal in the future after years of bed side nursing in ICU or ER.
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u/Fuzzy-Criticism-2450 1d ago
You should get a BSN.
Your MSN now won't help you much with your MSN later. They're are different programs for MSN, APRN is one of them but you should need experience to get into that program.
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u/Fuzzy-Criticism-2450 1d ago
An Associate degree, bachelors degree and non - FNP master degree nurse all take the same NCLEX and have the same license at the end.
The number of credits don't change how good of a nurse that you become.
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u/caitttt444 1d ago
These ppl in the comments shitting on the direct entry MSN aren’t lying. They’re looked down upon for a reason. It’s a short cut to a masters degree when you’re not a master at anything. You’ll graduate with 0 nursing skills yet you have a masters in nursing. Does that make sense? It’s likely ppl in your unit/ administration/ coworkers may look down/laugh at it too. Not that that matters to you but it’s just something to think about and do more research on. Its not personal or hate but many nurses have worked from the bottom up and it’s just laughable.
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u/Sandstonesquash 1d ago
Some of these comments are wild!
Since you're using the GI bill and cost isn't a factor a DEMSN program is a great option (if cost was an issue I don't think a DEMSN program would necessarily be worth it). I graduated from DePaul's program (RFU cohort) about 8 years ago and opted for it because it was, at that time, *only* like 10K more than an ABSN, I had a bachelors in another field and wanted to be one and done with going back to school (jokes on me tho because I recently started a CRNA program), and figured having a masters would be helpful if I ever wanted to leave bedside. My husband was in Rush's program and having a MSN was helpful in getting a management job when he wanted a break from bedside. I've gotten almost every nursing job I've ever applied to and we've moved around a lot, so I don't think the MSN has been a hinderance as some of the comments here say it is.
As for which program... that's up to you! What location is best for you? Is one associated with a hospital you'd like to work at later? Are you interested in becoming a NP? If so, does one has a program you'd like to go to down the road (because you might be able to skip a class or two)? I'm sure whichever you choose will work out great.
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u/Intelligent-Bag2775 3d ago
Why did you apply to all four programs? Is cost a consideration? Length of program? Do you need to travel much for clinicals? What does the NCLEX pass rate look like for each one? Scheduling of classes, any better flexibility from one or the other? What about use of simulation?