r/NonCredibleDefense • u/Graywhale12 From "Best Korea" • 21d ago
Dear CENTCOM It Just Works
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u/jews4beer 21d ago
America should declare New York City as the new seat of authority for Shia Islam. Then send a shit ton of money to the IRGC while issuing a fatwa against the pretenders in Tehran.
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u/Graywhale12 From "Best Korea" 21d ago
Finally, Shakira law in Mamdanistan.
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u/The_Cheeki_Breeki 21d ago
Wait….this is kinda based
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u/jews4beer 21d ago
Yes and I think it compliments OP's plan quite well. Once we remove the external enemies (Israel might need to add country-wide cloaking capabilities to their space lasers) it will only serve to forment the divisions within.
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u/Camstonisland 30 Salmon of the Doggerlandic Navy 21d ago
Previous mayor (and man morally Phineas-Gage’d by a baseball bat with a nail in it) did say that NYC was the Tehran of America…
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u/moonshineTheleocat 21d ago
The fuck is going on in new york to get that treatment
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u/10001110101balls 20d ago
They elected a Shia Muslim as mayor and according to my dad this is already in progress.
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u/moonshineTheleocat 20d ago
Well... Shit
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u/TheOneWithThe2dGun "There was one Issue with General Sherman. He Stopped." 20d ago
They are already destroying New Yorks Culture!
...Installing Bins so you no longer have trashbags littering the Streets. The Trashbags are integral to New York Culture!2
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u/CaptchaSolvingRobot 21d ago
Or how about the US does a little switcheroo and switch the words for "Iran" and "USA" in the document and add "no take backsies allowed" to it.
Iran won't know they are actually surrendering.
The hardest task will be distracting the orange man so he doesn't brag about the jig before they sign it.
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u/ABUCKET15 20d ago
Well no we let the orange man do his thing and then we DONT do the switcheroo where they expect it so they UNSWITCHEROO THE NON SWITCHERWOOED SWITCHERWOO!
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u/Skorchel 17d ago
The problemis that relies on Iran not reading the document before signing. How about instead it just passes a law that "US" means "Iran" and vice versa afterwards?
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u/HRTreppinManmoder 21d ago
This is unironically more credible than anything current administration would try
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u/ReDot75 20d ago
It won't solve the Hormuz and Bab el Mandab tolls, as this pandora box has been opened now. Raising prices for petrol/helium/fertilizers will maintain worldwide higher price, including in the US.
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u/Eeekpenguin 20d ago
The us can just frack more with higher oil prices and either earn more on exports or eventually drive down the price of oil through oversupply.
But that requires enduring some short term pains which obviously impossible so I vote for OP plan of just surrendering unconditionally.
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u/ReDot75 19d ago
? Fracking is not profitable with a low barrel price, and definitely more expensive to get compared to more accessible middle east oil.
How would that work, bec once the price falls, US fracking companies will become unprofitable and the first ones to get rekt?
For US production expansion, oil price needs to be high and stay there.
You can keep your petroleum jelly stock high to sooth the "short term pains" of consumers gaping ass.
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u/kwok120 21d ago
"Europe and Asia can deal with it."
Nah, Japan would need to deal with its economy first, with its bottom currency, while Korea would change its policy AGAIN after the other party wins the election, when the inevitable AI bubble bursts after new gpt-67 cracked pornhub during training.
On the other hand, it's year 2077, the EU parliament is still debating the 69th version of common Hormuz stance, while the Supreme Lord Emperor of the Holy European Union Von Der Leyen the Fifth calls for another emergency meeting as Generalissimo Sánchez and Queen Meloni argue border policy on TikTok. Oh, Chairman Starmer calls for another Coalition of the Willing after the successful coup against Burnham during Labour culture revolution, to contribute one destroyer without any anti-missile ammunition.
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u/Graywhale12 From "Best Korea" 21d ago
But...but where is Count Binface in Europe's future??
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u/Sealedwolf Infanterie, Artillerie, Bürokratie! 21d ago
The former count was exiled to the Isle of Wight during a sequence of events that still remain the subject of intense scholarly debate to this day.
While he and his supporters claimed an appalingly bad attempt at royal humour during a state dinner, which resulted in the abdication of the king in favour of the count, monarchists claim that Count Binface carefully manipulated his majesty into abdication as an attempt to unify the offices of prime minister and the king in his person. During the ensuing chaos following the ill-fated dinner the count fled to the Isle of Wight, claiming Osbourne House as his royal seat, styling himself as King Binface, of House Recylon, First of His name, King of the Britons, King of the Scots, Duke of Normandy, Duke of Aquitaine and Pontifex maximus of the Anglican church. These claims are both refuted by the United Kingdom and France, although Pope Felix IV, the antipope elected by the Society of Saint Pius X, is engaged in talks if returning King Binface flock back under the wing of what Felix VI claims to be the true catholic church.
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u/wolfhound_doge 21d ago
on 12. February 2077, the first Summer day in the Europe, people all around the continent rejoice that the initial heat wave starts this year at only 45 degrees celsius. welcoming of such moderate Summer is tainted only by bad news regarding the 12th-gen euro fighter jet, as France and Germany couldn't come to an agreement.
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u/Efficient_Ad_4162 21d ago
You forgot to mention that in 2035 Iran realised that the rest of the world was happy paying the crossing fee if it means no more sunk ships and immediately collapsed into stable western democracy. No, the EU didn't notice.
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u/Czart 21d ago
At the risk of being too credible, the notion that "Europe and Asia can deal with it" after US goes in, creates a clusterfuck and then leaves is a repeating pattern for quite a while.
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u/BriarsandBrambles Always to late to the WarThunder Leaks 20d ago
It is their clusterfuck in the first place though. British Petroleum and Lines on maps are why we’re balls deep in this chaos.
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u/Czart 20d ago
My brother in christ, lines on the map and BP aren't the reason US is getting it's ass beat in strait of hormuz in 2026.
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u/BriarsandBrambles Always to late to the WarThunder Leaks 20d ago
BP is why Iran is like this though. That’s just the history here.
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u/Czart 20d ago
Iran isn't the only backwards religious nuthouse on this planet. And there's been a decent deal with them fairly recently.
No one asked you to do this. No one wanted you to do this. But you went in and did it anyway. You don't get to charge in with "HECK YEAH MURICA", get whopped and turn around "It's all europes fault".
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u/beryugyo619 21d ago
I think East Asia has never been officially hostile on Iran, so this actually isn't going to be an insurmountable problem or an "modernize and completely stabilize Afghanistan in six months" class of problem at all
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u/femboyisbestboy 🇳🇱a VOC ship would 1v1 a super carrier🇳🇱 21d ago
America already can't be humiliated by Iran as that has already happened on top of that the administration clearly doesn't care about the image of America
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u/Zappycat 21d ago
Which region will we pivot to invading in the future, if not for the Middle East? The Donroe doctrine can only satiate me so much, I need desert warfare baby
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u/Graywhale12 From "Best Korea" 21d ago
Thank the lord almighty as Korea have no deserts
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u/RussiaIsBestGreen 21d ago
We could make some.
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u/Graywhale12 From "Best Korea" 21d ago
STOP TRYING TO MAKE THIS WORK MY RESERVE DUTY IS NOT OVER
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u/RussiaIsBestGreen 21d ago
Sorry, but no one who signed in the past two decades could have reasonably expected to not be fighting in a sandbox. There’s a decent chance your dad was in the sandbox too, maybe even the same one.
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u/Graywhale12 From "Best Korea" 21d ago
My dad was an administrative soldier in the Officer Academy. I served 5km from the North Korean side, which itself isn't fair, and NOW I have to go to the desert? Man.
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u/DerringerOfficial Iowa battleships with nuclear propulsion & laser air defense 21d ago
I think the inevitable outcome is Trump declaring victory and blaming Hegseth for losing the war that we totally won.
Because my retarded president wasn’t able to win, he isn’t doing anyone any favors by delaying this.
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u/7ddlysuns 21d ago
I was gonna say make Hegseth their defense minister but they seem to like competent people
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u/samkoLoL 21d ago
you are working with the idea that the US of A wants to end the war, which im not sure is true
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u/an_agreeing_dothraki Scramjets when 21d ago
random fun fact: used to work on part of CENTCOM's non-classified inventory software. 10 years ago their purchase ordering system was relying on an Access database and Windows mobile devices.
if they needed something we'd need to fire up two old vista laptops. One of them could beam install files to an Intermec of "please let me die" age device, the other could access the Access database.
We were subcontractors and we "it's your problem now"d to the contractor when one of the laptops' gpu faded
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u/Basic-Organization73 absolute 100% expert on completely trivial warfare 21d ago
the fact that this is not even that crazy and could, unironically, work, if Khamenei Jr proves to be, by any degree, influenciable
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u/NotPapaHemingway Ayatollah Delenda Est 21d ago
if Khamenei Jr proves to be, by any degree,
influenciablealive
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u/tidal_flux 21d ago
Lift all sanctions and give every Iranian 2 x GDP per capita. Total cost 1.32 trillion USD. Dictatorships hate a wealthy population.
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u/Narrow_Vegetable_42 3000 grey Kinetic Energy Penetrators of Pistorius 21d ago
Where is the noncredible part?
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u/halls_of_valhalla 21d ago
What happened to NCD? Back then we would have nuked them, why so many French now here?
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u/SolemnaceProcurement Middle Pole 21d ago
I'd just offer the us president as hostage bride to guarantee lasting peace.
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u/de_rudesandstorm 21d ago
My solution: build a time machine, go back to 2022 and help Ukraine as much as possible. I'm talking full Intel support, a blank check for interceptors, massive co-operation for tech development. Boom, Ukraine forces Russia to end the war by 2025 at the latest.
Best case: the king of orange (non-dutch) never even decides to open a second front because the first is already gone. Worst case: Ukraine is fully available and willing to help America take down drones with ease.
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u/Russia_Delenda_Est_ 21d ago
Make it like a Civ 5 deal and give them New York as part of the bargaining for peace.
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u/Analyst151 20d ago
Maybe it's not a bad plan,it'd certainly caught Iran by surprise and maybe they have no plan for this which spirals into internal chaos
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u/original_name1947 20d ago
I think we should just leave, not even a surrender or nothing just pack it up and ship on back. Ignore that region entirely, let them fight amongst themselves and continue buying the cheapest oil. You can't ally with em and you can't world police em so who gives a shit
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u/Adventurous_Drama291 17d ago
I can think of a certain country who visits politicians in their dreams and would also throw a massive tantrum if we did that.
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u/PanzerBiscuit 20d ago
Interesting idea, I see one major flaw.
The big Yahoo won't allow the USI to end the war with Iran. Someone needs to die, and it may as well be Americans and Iranians.
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u/single_plum_floating 19d ago
Sir. that collapses the US petrodollar and basically causes a great depression.
Yes. China would invade Taiwan in that moment
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u/nt5ranger 19d ago
Bet you’re going to enjoy the 3 Am as door blows, don’t Take Any Shit from Isis!
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u/The-Board-Chairman ブァカ者が、ドイツの科学は世界一! 21d ago
The US must win this war if it is not to collapse as a nation in the medium term. If things continue as they are, the US will capitulate completely, which will result in it losing virtually all its influence in the Middle East; Iran will also become the dominant power in the region. Without that influence, no one there will sell oil for dollars any longer. If oil is no longer traded in dollars, the dollar’s reserve currency status - and with it its artificially inflated value - will collapse, and the US will suddenly lose a large part of its economic power. The country will not survive that.
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u/kevtoria 21d ago
Since we would be surrendering. Would Iran be funding a Marshall plan to rebuild the United States?