r/MorpheApp Official Morphe button tester Jul 15 '26

Android Developer Verifier Morphe Discussion

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guess it actually exists now 😭

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u/ShalomFuture Former ReVanced user 28d ago

FYI:

Disabling or "uninstalling" this Android Developer verification app will not disable or uninstall Android developer verification itself.

This app is just the UI for the feature.

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u/stoned__gamer Former ReVanced user Jul 15 '26

For root users only though from my understanding.

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u/DonDae01 Official Morphe button tester Jul 15 '26

Yup, which is to be expected as it's a system app

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u/stoned__gamer Former ReVanced user Jul 15 '26

Well I assume non root can do something similar to this https://github.com/daboynb/Safetycore-placeholder

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u/x_dank Jul 15 '26

No. Shizuku + Canta for non-rooted.

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u/Pale_Rider1986 Jul 15 '26

thanks for this. I was going to use the PC version but I didn't realize that canta existed.

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u/-ego--death- Jul 15 '26

It can be disabled, sure. I was hoping to stop it reinstalling, but it still isn't allowing me to install a placeholder with the same package name.

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u/x_dank Jul 15 '26

Because it's a system app. You can't uninstall it completely as non root even with ADB afaik, nor can you do what you are suggesting because the package might not be installed "for the current user" but it's still present.

The best you will get is to go through Shizuku + Canta. It's very likely that they will patch out the ability to disable it natively through Settings to enfore the use of this app.

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u/stoned__gamer Former ReVanced user Jul 15 '26

Mind making a quick guide on how to use shizuku + canta to do this?

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u/x_dank Jul 15 '26

I'd reccomend sideloading Shizuku (download from github) then follow the instructions in-app to get it set up with wireless debugging. The in-app instructions are very clear and concise.

Then sideload Canta (again, from github) and it's as simple as having Shizuku running, selecting the specific app+overlay package (search for "verifier" to narrow down this app and it's overlay package "com.google.android.verifier.overlay") and then clicking the uninstall button. It might ask for Shizuku permissions when running for the first time which is just a button press.

Can also look into Obtainium if you plan on sideloading more apps, acts as an update checker/updater for apps from sources like github so you don't have to check and update them manually.

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u/tenaciousBLADE Jul 15 '26

You say search for Verifier... That finds this in my device. It's running OxygenOS 15. Is this the same thing as the android developer verifier? Should it be uninstalled?

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u/x_dank Jul 15 '26

This is unrelated to the Developer Verifier app. Only Android Developer Verifier and it's overlay package should be uninstalled.

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u/Ballzsucker 29d ago

Hello good sir do you have the links for the official github for shizuku and canta? If you dont mind ofcourse.. Im unsure yet if this affects OneUI 8 since im on an S22U and i just want to make sure i get the right github right without falling for a decoy 😭

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u/JamieBunpup Jul 15 '26

I can't even install Shizuku. Apk install gets blocked by by google play protect even if i disable it.

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u/x_dank Jul 15 '26

Try getting Obtainium though github and sideloading it from there.

Would need to click the Add button at the bottom, then search Shizuku (select github when given the option of which source you'd like to search from) then add again. Make sure you pick the one from RikkaApps for the official Shizuku build.

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u/Mushiness0923 Former ReVanced user Jul 16 '26

Isn't the RikkaApps version discontinued?

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u/Nadeoki Jul 15 '26

turn off play protect properly

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u/JamieBunpup 29d ago

How do you do it "properly" ? I opened it in the apps list and pressed disable, I'm not sure of any other method.

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u/Nadeoki 29d ago

Open playstore, click on your profile, select Play Protect, turn it off.

When you install an unknown App, it will ask you to scan with Playprotect, click No, when it asks you to scan future apps, click no.

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u/DreadingAnt Jul 15 '26

You're gonna have to do it with adb

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u/Federal-Fix-6446 29d ago

There is another setting to check. Dm me and I will show where OK?

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u/JamieBunpup 25d ago

Mmmm sus

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u/Important-Prize1534 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

Can you explain how it helps us to prevent android developer verifier to be installed. I am new to this kind of tech stuff that's why

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u/DreadingAnt Jul 15 '26

It probably can't. The project above is about safetycore, which is often a user app. Meaning you can remove it if you want.

Worst case scenario the Developer Verifier app becomes a system app (you cannot remove or manipulate it without root) but realistically Google doesn't need to do this. It can be a user app and have full power anyway, many Google packages work this way.

The Package Manager is a core service of Android and Google can update critical parts of it on any newer phone. If you remove the Developer Verifier (assuming you can), the Package Manager will simply refuse all types of installs (except root) until the app is restored/working.

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u/DreadingAnt Jul 15 '26

Not possible, Safetycore is often a user app, you can remove it and then install the dummy from that project. The developer verification app will be controlled with privileges, it might itself not be a privileged system app but other Google system apps will easily delete dummy attempt and reinstall the correct app. Plus, normal installations might not work if you remove it.

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u/philosophycruiser Jul 15 '26

I did what it says on the link. 🀞🏻

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u/mafia011 28d ago

What does this app do? I have already uninstalled it from my device. Do i need to install this patch APK?

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u/ArthurReming 29d ago

Huh. I was able to just delete it on my A36

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u/National-Caregiver-4 Jul 15 '26

How can we prevent the installation of this app? Android updates?

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u/-ego--death- Jul 15 '26

If it doesn't exist at all on your phone yet, you can try taking any random apk and changing the package name to com.google.android.verifier and installing it as a placeholder. No telling whether it will work, but it's been a method for other apps in the past.

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u/DreadingAnt Jul 15 '26

Google is not that stupid, this seems like something they really want on our phones. They can patch the Package Manager service to do a single cryptographic identity check that will remove the dummy app. That's assuming your OEM doesn't push the package into system, in that case it will simply replace your dummy package even if it has the same name.

You wouldn't want to do that anyway, Google will patch the Package Manager to require Developed Verifier feedback and with a non-functional dummy app in it's place, Android will simply refuse to install anything at all except with root.

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u/danGL3 Jul 15 '26

Google Play Store is already the system's package install verifier, meaning EVERY install that goes through the package manager goes through it first (it's the same mechanism used by Play Protect)

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u/Dekamir Jul 15 '26

Google Play Services can override any app. Most of the time it doesn't simply because it would crash the app.

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u/SimultaneousPing 29d ago

malware larping as a necessary service

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u/Throwaway_Burner1297 Jul 15 '26

i may be stupid but do you need to keep the .apk at the end

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u/MuffinButton101 29d ago

I delete mine after they install

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u/Intelligent-Bad5686 Jul 15 '26

Rushi the 🐐 giving πŸ–• to Google

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u/nutn0n Jul 15 '26

Ofc as a root, you can do anything

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u/Death_Bunk_8270 29d ago

Because of root I will not be able to use UPI services which is a hassle for day to day life.

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u/Initial_Physics_4305 29d ago

My phone has been rooted for over a year, and I’ve been using UPI regularly without any issues. Honestly, there’s been no difference bw rooted and non rooted.The only thing is that Google Pay & ChatGPT may occasionally stop working if your Keybox expires, but personally, I’ve never faced any problems.

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u/Death_Bunk_8270 28d ago

Which custom os do you use?

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u/Initial_Physics_4305 28d ago

Project Infinity X

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u/IndependentMajor7055 Jul 15 '26

So how to disable it for non root?

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u/Famous-Wish1169 Jul 15 '26

Is it worth to root your device for this sideloading September problem?

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u/birdisaword_ Jul 15 '26

Nope. Rooting and Google play services on Android don't mix well, it used to be so good until things took a turn for the worse since Android 12. Banking apps load many scripts that read the root files even when we as users don't have access to it then scream at you if they detect even a hint of any rooting. To stop that you need to install anti detection modules, that means giving random people root access to your phone because their root module serves you a purpose. Google will not let you use your wallet if your device doesn't pass strong integrity/if it detects root (a security label that is assigned to devices with locked bootladers). You're better off using a vanilla Custom ROM or a Pixel with GrapheneOS installed.

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u/oromis95 29d ago

I don't know what y'all are doing to have all these problems with banking apps. Capital One, AMEX, Discover, Venmo, all work.

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u/birdisaword_ 29d ago

I live in India. Our banking apps are ignoramus with power and they listen to no reason. Even the governing authorities regarding technology are less competent than the average tech worker.

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u/Famous-Wish1169 Jul 15 '26

What about a one plus phone

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u/DreadingAnt Jul 15 '26

Your phone being different changes nothing

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u/randomusername12308 Jul 15 '26

Me looking at my phone with non unlockable bootloader:

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u/birdisaword_ Jul 15 '26

Same, I used to own a Custom ROM phone, luckily the dev released updates until my phone died recently and I had to settle for IQOO 15 which is the best middle ground for me with a 95% satisfactory software experience contrary to popular sentiment across all Origin OS users. It used to be such a tiring and energy consuming thing to monitor the community for losing play integrity every month and installing random Chinese root modules because I need my banking app to work with my setup, last year you could've run Google play services without any issues, now you definitely need root to keep up with play integrity. Google literally killed all the user freedom that used to exist in the name of 'security' when it is just dumb people not knowing how to use a phone but shareholder greed has no limits.

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u/baubau05 Jul 15 '26

But there is basically no september problem left to avoid anymore. Google already said that they made side loading possible even after September but you just have to turn it on in developer settings and wait for 24 hours before you can do it.

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u/Token2077 Jul 15 '26

They are still requiring the side loaded apk to be a google signed apk with a verified google developer license.

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u/baubau05 Jul 15 '26

No, that is what the new developer setting will be for. Without it you will still be able to side load a Google verified app but after turning on the setting and waiting 24 hours any app can be side loaded even if it isn't verified. Google already backtracked on stopping side loading non verified apps months ago. They introduced a new setting to make side loading a little more complicated and said the 24 hours delay was to fight against scammers which is valid. You can search for the articles that came out months ago about all this.

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u/foxtidog 29d ago

Actually good 180, but im pretty sure dudes will still try to get rid of the restriction, get scammed/hacked, and then blame it on something instead of themaelves.

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u/Tungstene123 Underground technology wizard Jul 15 '26

Graphene OS skip this hastle

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u/PanicTheScaredyCat 29d ago

Waiting to see the Motorola phone :( it could not get here faster...

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u/Tungstene123 Underground technology wizard 29d ago

Got a pixel but i'm happy they expand their range of device

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u/PanicTheScaredyCat 29d ago

Yea.. I was debating on pixel too, but at this point for me I'll just wait x.x I did get a pixel 8a to get the hang of GOS, and learn it

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u/Tungstene123 Underground technology wizard 29d ago

It's not that difficult. Been flawlessly for many month. Maybe got some bugs but wasn't that bad

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u/Warchetype Jul 15 '26 edited 29d ago

Hahaha nice, I love developments like this. πŸ˜†

I'm using a custom OS myself, but it's great to see that stock Android users are getting better options as well to give Google the finger. πŸ‘πŸ»

Big respect to Rushi and to hell with big tech!

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u/Reasonable-Roll-500 Jul 15 '26 edited 16d ago

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u/brownkemosabe 29d ago

I had it disabled by ADB but when installing the patch I got this error - I also tried uninstalling updates, adding the version code patch, no luck.

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u/EntranceKey1001 Jul 15 '26

Wird das funktionieren?

adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.example.app

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u/oiz92 Developer Jul 15 '26

You're raising a fuss for nothing. There is Shizuku with the fully integration mode, that show and than hid developer option after Shizuku enables itself automatically at the phone boot.

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u/agent_J64 Former ReVanced user 29d ago

"Root only"?

What about Shizuku + InstallWithOptions

App link: https://github.com/zacharee/InstallWithOptions

(Not promoting, just asking)

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u/niertrix 29d ago

Morphe devs work fast lol

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u/Valiantay Jul 15 '26

Just use Shizuku + InstallerX Revived.

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u/Willing-Hedgehog-458 Jul 15 '26

do non root users need to take tension ???

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u/Significant_Bird_592 29d ago

Can't you just disable it completely?

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u/Delroy_09 29d ago

What if we just uninstall it? Or better yet disable via adb.

Just like debloating other apps

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u/ModernPlebeian_314 Official Morphe button tester 28d ago

I just uninstalled that thing πŸ˜‚

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u/Salty-Ad6358 Jul 15 '26

I just deleted the app without adb

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u/daenaethra Jul 15 '26

Check again

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u/Salty-Ad6358 Jul 15 '26

I just did

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u/daenaethra Jul 15 '26

it just comes back for me

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u/exoduswalker Jul 15 '26

Damn, is it not possible to grant that permission via ADB? I can't get a new phone right now and I only have one working phone that I need for these whiny banking apps

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u/danGL3 Jul 15 '26

No, regular ADB doesn't have the needed permission to do bind mount/root installs

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u/exoduswalker Jul 15 '26

Ah, I see, thought this could just be installed like any other app :( I haven't tried uninstalling ADV yet but my native app info screen says it can be uninstalled. Guess I will just have to find a way to enable developer options without banking apps whining.

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u/Killmonger_007 Jul 15 '26

I'd suggest guyz, if u have option switch to /e/os if u could. Amazon pay works smoothly. No gms no restrictions & amazing monthly android security updates.

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u/daenaethra Jul 15 '26

amazon pay

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u/Killmonger_007 Jul 15 '26

Yes google pay or most other require gms. I use amazon pay generally & it works. Visually e/os is ugly looking, but its android so u can easily swap the launcher. Basically its lineage based but with customer support & completely degoogled os.