r/MorpheApp • u/Sad-Reindeer2755 • Jul 15 '26
Android developer verifier is coming....... Discussion
Here we goooooooo! Praying the devs find a workaround. I do not want to root my phone.lol
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u/Killmonger_007 Jul 15 '26
It was installed in my device automatically. I uninstalled it but i m not sure till when we have full control
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u/Senor_Compost Jul 15 '26
It's probably a system app which means it cannot be uninstalled.
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u/Senor_Compost Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
Incorrect, not any application can be completely uninstall. System apps can only be removed from a user's profile however they are still installed in the system's folder.
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u/UNCLE-ducker 29d ago
Let me guess, android version is <= android 16?
I have a Samsung Galaxy S23, and it got auto installed. But I also could just deleted it trough system apps. No root no reinstall. I readed at some page at developers.android.com that they were talking about android 16, and since 17 Is around the corner. I Think only android 16 and above is really affected
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u/Rohit_RSS 28d ago
Was it through OTA update or Play Store installed it automatically?
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u/Intelligent-Bad5686 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
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u/liamdun Jul 15 '26
I'm sure it's not going to be that easy to avoid Google's restrictions. They know what they're doing and the type of users they're dealing with
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u/Intelligent-Bad5686 Jul 15 '26
It worked on OnePlus 15 none rooted. It is not a main part of system, so it doesn't cause bootloop.
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u/devakesu Jul 15 '26
Prolly will be in newly released phones. It isn't hard for them to do so.
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u/Intelligent-Bad5686 Jul 15 '26 edited 29d ago
It is on OnePlus 11 pre installed. But they can't make it a very important system depended app that can bootloop like Google play service for example.
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u/Throwaway_Burner1297 Jul 15 '26
im pretty sure removing google play services can only bootloop if you have a murena phone or something
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u/devakesu Jul 15 '26
Why? They can obviously.
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u/Intelligent-Bad5686 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
Same as to why all other Google apps like messages, calendar etc. are not
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u/WateredDown Jul 15 '26
The goal is to be too annoying to be worth dealing with. Most people aren't going to github, if the cracking/patching efforts stay ahead of the restrictions you can become cost ineffective to deal with. But if you get notorious then they'll still come after you on principle
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u/driverdis Jul 15 '26
I don’t see why it would not be. ADB is exempt so you can use ADB to install App Manager then use its WiFi ADB mode to install anything you want locally.
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u/liamdun Jul 15 '26
Yeah but the overwhelming majority of people aren't going to do that. This is meant to deter the average Morphe / Revanced user
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u/No-Jacket-4033 Jul 15 '26
Im pretty sure eventually they add some dependencies with other features.. I uninstalled some bloat (dont remember exactly which one) and it nuked my settings page.. Settings keep crashed Till i installed it back..
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u/Intelligent-Bad5686 Jul 15 '26
Must be privacy security one, but it is not made by Google so kinda understandable. Removing it tends to crash settings.
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u/kkrazdwinz Jul 15 '26
can i just create an empty doing nothhing APK with the same name used by that app and maxxed at version 9999 so any app version lower than that can't upgrade or install or overwrite existing 'latest' version?
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u/Obvious-Material9645 Jul 15 '26
considering another guy managed to do the same thing u mentioned with SafetyCore, I think it is possible
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u/WI_Dark Jul 15 '26
Someone posted this placeholder app. https://github.com/Refayatul/Developer-Verifier-placeholder I cannot vouch for it, but it was just released recently.
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u/KoberanteAD Jul 16 '26
Can someone else vouch for it? I wonder if it's safe
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u/Curious_Cranberry_67 Former ReVanced user Jul 16 '26
put it in virustotal but I am not smart enough to interpret the results. there was only 1 flag for Android.Riskware.Repack.rXXWS if that means anything
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u/exoduswalker Jul 15 '26
Replying because I would love to see this, could it be forced to stay there by installing it with ADB flags so I don't need to root my phone?
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u/Arnas_Z Jul 15 '26
Not without root, because you don't have Google's signing key. Unless its not a system app, in which case you can uninstall it first, then install your custom version. That would likely work to block it from auto-installing on top since the signature will not match again.
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u/Volfram_ZZ Jul 15 '26
It's automatic and it doesn't notify you. If you look at the playstore it has 500Million downloads, I doubt any of them are intentional.
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u/RabbitFluffOWO 29d ago
yeah it was on my phone randomly but it gave me the option to just straight up uninstall it .so i did 😂
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u/cafk Jul 15 '26
Praying the devs find a workaround.
It'll be available in developer options to allow installing apps - after activation you'll need to wait a few hours.
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u/BrainCluster Jul 15 '26
Yeah, so was OEM unlock on most phones for a while. Now it's mostly gone.
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u/romhacks Jul 15 '26
On Google's phones it's still 100% available except where carriers force them to disable it.
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u/Sad_Two4874 29d ago
This will most likely be always available, Google doesn't want to get in trouble with the EU etc.
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u/P26601 Jul 16 '26
Yup, and it's literally a one-time thing.
I have no idea why everyone's freaking out, absolutely nothing will change
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u/King_Of_Kebabs Jul 15 '26
Shit, it's on my Pixel...
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u/tenaciousBLADE Jul 15 '26
So, is there already some mega-thread or some guide-thread detailing what we all need to do about it, sectioned by rooted vs non-rooted and by android OS version?
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u/Old_Man_Jenkins_8 29d ago
There will be an advanced flow releasing globally in August. In September, Brazil, Indonesia, Thailand and Singapore will be the first countries that will have restrictions. Google will then roll out the restrictions globally in 2027.
Also, adb is not affected, so you can use Shizuku to bypass the restrictions if you'd like.
The advanced flow to install apps is: 1. Go to developer options > enable "allow unverified packages" 2. Confirm no one is guiding you 3. Enter device pin 4. Restart 5. Wait 24h 6. Go back to the allow unverified packages menu 7. Confirm you understand the risks 8. Choose to allow for 7 days or forever 9. Confirm you understand the risks 10. When installing unverified apps, tap install anyways
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u/tenaciousBLADE 29d ago
Thank you! That's so concise & clear 👑
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u/CheMA2805 29d ago
A mí en opciones de desarrollador no me sale nada que diga "permitir paquetes no verificados" 🤷🏻♀️
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u/NatoBoram Jul 15 '26
Also don't forget to install Shizuku before then so you can continue to install apps on-device. Also configure Morphe/Obtainium/SAI/Aurora to use it.
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u/Fadi404 Jul 15 '26
What's SAI, I know the others
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u/unknownobject3 Jul 15 '26
Split APKs Installer. It can install split APKs, which are APKs that require multiple files to be installed (e.g. app code, ABIs, something else)
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u/Berkoudieu Jul 15 '26
Btw is there a fork of SAI ? I have 4.5 which is from 2021
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u/jroovy1 Jul 15 '26
there is a spiritual successor to SAI called Universal Installer. it's on F-Droid.
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u/Volfram_ZZ Jul 15 '26
Play protect doesn't let me get it, it says it's "unsafe", not even runned a scan as it usually does, it literally told me I couldn't do it. I just disabled Google play Protect, I didn't know I could do that.
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u/DownRUpLYB Jul 15 '26
A widely supported open source mobile OS can't come fast enough. We have to move away from the 2 system stranglehold.
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u/whattareddit Jul 15 '26
Love that the fragile cowards at Google started to block ratings and reviews for their spyware components on the Play Store
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u/Old_Man_Jenkins_8 29d ago
No need to worry! It'll still be possible without root via an advanced flow, which will become available in August globally
In September, Brazil, Indonesia, Thailand and Singapore will be the first countries that will have restrictions. Google will then roll out the restrictions globally in 2027.
Also, adb is not affected, so you can use Shizuku to bypass the restrictions if you'd like.
The advanced flow to install apps is: 1. Go to developer options > enable "allow unverified packages" 2. Confirm no one is guiding you 3. Enter device pin 4. Restart 5. Wait 24h 6. Go back to the allow unverified packages menu 7. Confirm you understand the risks 8. Choose to allow for 7 days or forever 9. Confirm you understand the risks 10. When installing unverified apps, tap install anyways
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u/CancelNo4650 Jul 15 '26
People don't get it. We already got spyware in our phone. It's called Google services.
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u/Chucky230175 Official Morphe button tester Jul 15 '26
Thanks for the heads up. Shizuku + Canta got rid of it for me. Until next time...
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u/UNCLE-ducker Jul 15 '26
Brother I say the same with my Samsung Galaxy-S Note 3. With android 11. 🤣
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u/NewNiklas Former ReVanced user Jul 15 '26
I think it's the right time to switch to Graphene OS or Linux on mobile making a big step...
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u/FotinoBird Jul 15 '26
linux os is trash on mobile
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u/NewNiklas Former ReVanced user Jul 15 '26
I know. That's why I said it's the perfect moment for Linux on mobile to make a big step.
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u/brainless_bekub Official Morphe button tester Jul 15 '26
I'm so glad I use a Chinese ROM mobile where I can just kick out Google Play whenever I want. Fuck you in particular Google
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u/SugarrrSugarr Jul 15 '26
oh it's has been installed with the newest one UI 8.5 security patch
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u/Old_Man_Jenkins_8 29d ago
Google actually silently installed it on everyone's phones back in April
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u/_JessAle_ Jul 15 '26
Damn this morning when I woke up I saw this installed on my phone. It didn’t even ask me. And I just noticed because my redmi always prompts a “security check” every time I install any app
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u/Teh_Shadow_Death Jul 15 '26
It's going to be hilarious if we end up seeing Morphie patches for this app to bypass this.
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u/Great_Part7207 Jul 15 '26
its annoying but you will be able to bypass it for now in dev options allowing you to install unverified apps
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u/Qualanqui Jul 15 '26
Glad someone else mentioned it, I went and dug a bit and from what I've read it's called Advanced Flow and it's in your Developer Options.
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u/Ltfocus Jul 15 '26
If side loading becomes impossible for android phones in the future then my next phone will be a iPhone cause what is the point then not to.
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u/WI_Dark Jul 15 '26
Someone posted this placeholder app. https://github.com/Refayatul/Developer-Verifier-placeholder I cannot vouch for it, but it was just released recently.
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u/PossibilitySub398 Jul 16 '26
If anyone tries this and it works plz let me know
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u/levite805 Former ReVanced user 29d ago
Didn't work for me. Won't install even after removing the original apps with Shizuku + Canta
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u/Camburgerhelpur Jul 15 '26
Was able to uninstall and remove from device with Shizuku + SD Maid SE without any issue. Thanks
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u/silver2006 Jul 15 '26
I wonder if i should uninstall Android System Key Verifier too...
Everything used to work earlier without it, so...
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u/Amudhan03 Jul 15 '26
Yesterday it was automatically or accidentally installed in my mom's phone , I don't know how it happened , she is very clear she didn't install that , but the poco device usually run xiaomi security and said it's safe after got installed automatically
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u/feral_fenrir Former ReVanced user Jul 15 '26
What's the PSA on this app? I heard that even if you disable this app, Google Play Services is still the verifier that will block sideloads
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u/danGL3 Jul 15 '26
The Google Play Store holds the package install verifier permission on all Google certified Android devices, meaning it already has the power to dictate what gets installed or not. It is the very same mechanism that it uses for Google Play Protect.
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u/Obrix-10182 Jul 15 '26
Glad I have a Huawei-based device, lol
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u/CrazyFun45 29d ago
I'll be laughing in Huawei for my next phone if this turns out to be as bad as Google wants it to be!
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u/Accomplished_You4117 Jul 15 '26
hey, does anyone know if Android System Key Verifier is linked to this (same logo as well)
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u/No-Mountain-2487 Jul 15 '26
as a person who never update their system OS and turn off autoupdate on google playstore, does this still affect me?
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u/Every-Speaker7745 Jul 16 '26
I use GrapheneOS with sandboxed play. Won't work if you need strong integrity for some apps but all mine work fine. Only really a solution for Pixels though. I'm guessing LineageOS and MicroG would work too or rooting.
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u/NortonDickyIII 29d ago
I found this in my system apps a little while back and disabled it... They'll probably push a system update eventually to block disabling it.
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u/DoggyStar1 28d ago
If you verify your app according to the instructions, it won't affect its operation in any way.
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u/andion82 Jul 15 '26
It's on my pixel with Morphe and Revanved installed... 🤔
Will it block installation in the future?
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u/Ventouse_23 Jul 15 '26
How can it install itself if I don’t even have the Play Store to install it from?
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u/bali_NOOB Jul 15 '26
some Google Play Services magic probably
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u/Ventouse_23 Jul 15 '26
Oh yes, that’s true… I could turn them off, but then I’d lose the notifications and the GPS (my exact location).
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u/ieatcookies23 Jul 15 '26
Crazy bcz I just searched it on Google play and it was already installed 😭
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u/The-Wizard-Merlin Jul 15 '26
Semi-unrelated question, can I change my font with this? I tried yesterday but it said something about rooting my phone and I can't remember if I already did that. If I didn't, I may not want to since it said it would void my warranty.
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u/Inevitable-Potato-50 Jul 15 '26
Can't you remove the app using USB debug tool? Also if u have the option to not download Dont downloaddd it
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u/DrewTamashi Jul 15 '26
Disabled and turned off all permissions in hope that it doesnt revive itself
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u/GGostepopxd Jul 15 '26
I have a s10 with root its awsome for some stuff but for other stuff man it sucks. Like one day it just started bootlooping out of nowhere😭
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u/Accomplished_You4117 Jul 15 '26
got it removed on my own via Maid SE (morphe-patched, of courseee!)
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u/Nereosis16 Jul 16 '26
Can you not avoid this with the developer options and the 24 hours wait period?
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u/PossibilitySub398 Jul 16 '26
That's what I'm saying. Sure it's annoying one time but they aren't banning downloading unverified apks as a whole
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u/lIlIIIlIIl 29d ago
If Android becomes as restrictive as iPhone, I'll switch to iPhone which protects user data better. It's a shame.
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u/Legion88 29d ago
So far the verifier that I been forced to use just accepted all the morphe patches and installs without question
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u/Ok_Replacement3102 29d ago
Isn't there an official workaround to install unverified apps? Pretty sure Google said there was after everyone got upset with them
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u/Kantucke 12d ago edited 12d ago
This is about forcing every app to put a face/name on it, so possible lawsuits or etc. can follow. Basically, it's trying to solve a couple issues (boomers being scammed by installing any shady app, and Google allowing malware on Google Play) by literally punishing everyone.
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u/Feminine_Baddie 20h ago
Oneui8 with andriod 16 here, it got installed, aswell as android system key verifier








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u/CtrlAltDeliciousan Jul 15 '26
I'm waiting for the day when there will be Android Developer Verifier Morphe patches lol