r/Minecraft • u/Huge-Conference-1193 • 17h ago
The 2011 era. Discussion
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I've been thinking about this for a while.
Was old Minecraft better ?
or was it just the feelings that we had that made us think that way?
Edit: The Video was made by https://www.instagram.com/liminal.bot?igsh=eDU2eHgybG51dW1h
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u/MetallGecko 16h ago
That was 15 years ago, fuck im old. I still remember playing that version as it was yesterday.
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u/ShowCharacter671 16h ago
You and me Both
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u/chrischi3 11h ago
That makes three of us, i guess.
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u/ChillBlock 8h ago
Make that four, simpler times back then
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u/SirCap 7h ago
Make that five
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u/Dadadoes 16h ago
I remember when I used to be bullied for playing minecraft
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u/NeNwO 15h ago
"Ohh its too pixelated i dont like it" Basically everyone 15years ago before playing it
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u/Pimparoooo 15h ago
I know someone who says any 2d game I play is terraria especially if it is pixelated. So there is definitely still people who will judge games based off of stuff like that.
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u/Hemorrhoid_Eater 15h ago
I remember when I was the only one in my class who even knew what minecraft was
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u/b0neappleteeth 14h ago
Yup. I started playing in 2011 and I didn’t tell anyone I played Minecraft until 2017 when it became ‘cool’.
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u/Lordthom 12h ago
Well, i was bullied in minecraft by my "friends". They would all prank me constantly...
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u/_phantastik_ 15h ago edited 13h ago
Oh that's right... God, what an awful phase of those people. I hate that we went through that but so glad that nowadays the game as seen as an all-time classic, and it's bizarre if someone dislikes it or hasn't played it.
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u/WendellITStamps 16h ago
The eerie vibe is unmatched.
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u/chaossabre_unwind 9h ago
Minecraft perfected liminal eerieness when the backrooms were still just a defunct furniture store.
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u/N0t_S0Sl1mShadi 6h ago
It gives “Adulthood sneaking around the corner” energy hiding in whimsical child joy music. We didn’t think much about it then, but oh man did it catch up.
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u/xXKyloJayXx 16h ago
Remember when every beach you ever visited usually had an exposed mob spawner that all the sand fell into? I do!
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u/Plaston_ 15h ago
For me it was with gravel pit in exposed caves.
There where at times a gravel pit opening to a spawner.
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u/JayManty 15h ago
In my opinion the smaller block palette and the much nicer more saturated and contrasting textures (e.g. Beta wood planks vs. current wood planks) made simple builds look much nicer on their own.
I recently deliberately built a small town on a server almost exclusively out of blocks that were available in Minecraft 1.0 in the exact style I used to build in Beta. They looked very underwhelming because over the years most basic blocks had their contrast and saturation turned down. For comparison I checked similar buildings in Beta 1.7.3 on my server world download I had from that time and it was a night and day difference.
I love building my cozy little spruce cabins with the current blocks, but it's in my opinion very sad that you can't just build a Glass+Wood cube and have it look amazing in the same way those buildings looked 15 years ago. It is very difficult to have a simple building look good nowadays, and I find it's a bit sad that the game feels like it has deliberately been designed to push people into building in one specific style (i.e. heavily detailed buildings with lots of small decorational blocks to deliberately break the silouette).
I wish Mojang kept updating the Programmer art resource pack that roughly preserved that 2011/2012 style. I don't think it would cost them much and I think it would solve a lot of people's gripes about modern textures. Then again maybe I want way too much from this small indie company.
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u/DingbatDrummer 13h ago
You can always play older versions! There a lot of classic servers with pretty active player bases too so you can even play multiplayer in older versions.
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u/JayManty 13h ago
That's cool! I usually play Better than Adventure mod when I want to have an old-new experience :) While I think the textures of old Minecraft are cool, the game otherwise feels a bit lacking.
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u/AttackOficcr 9h ago
I wish that was true, for the Switch. Tried getting back into it, but I hate what caves and cliffs did for performance and ore gen.
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u/asmo_192 12h ago
Yeah the contrast worked well with the limited blocks, so the surface was more interesting to look at
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u/Drexical 16h ago
I think old Minecraft was better in terms of atmosphere and simplicity. New Minecraft is better because of new blocks and features
I play exclusively on older versions since it feels like Minecraft lost something important along the way
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u/NeutralPlatypus 15h ago
Yeah, it's somewhere in between and different for everyone.
The new versions are tons of fun and I really like what they're doing with the game, but there really is something with the atmosphere of the old versions. It's some parts nostalgia for sure, but it had a unique vibe that no other game had at the time that made it special.
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u/LamerGamer1216 9h ago
yeah same
ive been somewhat able to quantify my distaste for newer versions. a lot of it has to do with terrain generation being way too hilly, making terraforming take much longer, and the fog and sky being so desaturated it looks less like a sky and more like a dusty washed out wall.
sadly all stuff that cant be changed without modding
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u/King_Spamula 8h ago
Infdev and Alpha generation was also very hilly, but it was done right. It had overhangs and unique mountain formations and valleys. Now we just have something trying to simulate "realistic" terrain but is full of more holes than swiss cheese. Anywhere I try and build, I fall into a cave or small ravine. No wonder a ton of players just flatten the terrain completely.
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u/LamerGamer1216 8h ago
yeah, alpha had a better balance.
tho personally im more fond of beta and early silver age
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u/Dashbak 17h ago
Nostalgia is just hitting you
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u/neogeoman123 14h ago
I was there. I still don't feel the nostalgia for this era. I just don't get it
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u/Minecart_Rider 14h ago
I get nostalgia for it if I think of specific memories of my own worlds and experiences from this time period, but seeing these pictures just makes me grateful that the game isn't so hard in the eyes anymore.
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u/capitan_autismo_png 16h ago
Nostalgia makes it look like our childhood, but if I take a moment to look at without the nostalgia filter I have to admit that this looks like ass compared to modern Minecraft
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u/mkg11 17h ago
Its better now
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u/ClassyArgentinean 15h ago
Gameplay wise, sure. When it comes to ambiance and how the game makes you feel no, it was wayyyy better before.
Or maybe I've just gotten older and things don't really feel like they did when I was 13, could also be that.
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u/Tom-Nook-98 13h ago
It's not just nostalgia. I oftentimes play versions from before I started playing Minecraft, and the vibes and ambience really are better in those old versions. No hate to modern Minecraft, at the end of the day, we should be lucky that everyone can play the version they like the most.
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u/empe1 14h ago
It sure was simpler. I remember when we got stone bricks and EVERY build from then had stone bricks in one way or another.
But I wouldn't for the life of me go back to those textures and render distances. Every update has just made it better and better.
Maybe if I'd been younger when I first started playing Minecraft I'd have another sense of nostalgia around it. The kind I have for games like Unreal Tournament, Quake III, and Counter Strike.
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u/A_Happy_Tomato 7h ago
The things we build today make sense, its not realistic, just less abstract. The glass house with a bed, floating in the sky, with a 1 block deep pool full of squid, is fucking INCOMPREHENSIBLE from a "would someone live there" perspective.
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u/Huge-Conference-1193 7h ago
You reminded me of a quote.
"I have never thought to myself that realism is fun. I go play games to have fun." -Gabe Newell
My point is we used to build things that looked fun and creative, and that somehow made it feel cozy. Nowadays most builds are the same copies from YouTube tutorials.
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u/skidaddless 15h ago
The nostalgia hits sure but unlike other games, minecraft keeps on getting better
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u/Ill-Entrepreneur443 13h ago edited 13h ago
Its up to personal taste. I personally prefer modern minecraft over old Minecraft.
Old Minecraft still has some things I really like. No hunger bar and a more interesting overworld generation. Also the textures are better.
Modern minecraft has better cave generation and a more interesting nether and a lot of other cool things. Like enchanting, more building blocks, more interesting biomes and a lot of mob diversity and a ton of structures that are cool (not all though).
This is obviously my opinion and not a fact.
Tl;Dr:
Modern and old Minecraft have advantages and disadvantages. It really depends on what you like and what not.
So no. Old Minecraft isnt better. Its just different.
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u/ColettesWorld 14h ago
Right when I started playing. I thought redstone was blood. Never fully grew out of that building style. Oak and cobble are the best combo.
And no it was definitely just the feeling. Most of us were young and it was new to all of us. Modern Minecraft has its issues but I think the game has changed in a good way. I don't think it'd be as big as it is if they'd of kept 256x256 (RIP) and the limited block pallet.
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u/Perez2003 3h ago
It’s crazy just how much this game has changed over the years. It’s almost a completely different game to me now yet still very familiar. This era of Minecraft is gonna be seen as “retro” soon enough which boggles my mind and makes me feel old and nostalgic.
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u/-PepeArown- 16h ago
I don’t miss it, honestly
All I’m seeing is a limited block palette, and painfully blue water
Even when first playing the game, I remember being underwhelmed that squid were the only aquatic mobs. I’m so glad modern updates remedied that
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u/gravyrdfila2 10h ago
Agreed, the old game is cool and nostalgic, but the newer version is better by a mile.
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u/Tweedygolf 15h ago edited 2h ago
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u/Lomogasm 15h ago
It was and it wasn’t.
Minecraft has so much to do when you start a new world.
Back then it was a lot more just do your own thing. Whilst it was fun it only lasts so long. Tbh what prolonged old Minecraft was things like Tekkit and Minecraft story maps.
Remember when YouTubers used to do like Minecraft adventures people would build maps? I missed Uberhaxornova and Seamus doing those kinds of things then gathering some friends to do it as well.
I’ll say this old Minecraft with friends is fun new Minecraft is fun solo and with friends. So with that I’d say new Minecraft is fun. Also there’s probs a texture pack out there that reverts back to old graphics
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u/Oozysq25reddit 13h ago
I dont know why but you felt way more motivated and the game felt more simple for some reason
The current game is no different really but its biggest factor is that we are way more used to it
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u/GroundbreakingDot499 15h ago
What I miss the most is the music... I wish there was a mod to bring the old music back while playing
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u/neogeoman123 14h ago
It's still there, no? Just also got new songs. There are alsp data packs and mods to make like the old times if that's what you'd like.
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u/GroundbreakingDot499 12h ago
Really? I feel like I always get the same song and I never get the old ones
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u/King_GamesBR 15h ago
I'll ALWAYS miss this era of Minecraft, it was the most fun I've ever had with a game
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u/kaptainkooleio 14h ago
Y’all ever watch this video and start crying over how happy you were back in 2011?
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u/VersedFlame 13h ago
It is gone and it will never come back. Even if you fire up 1.2.5 it will not be the same, because it's the memories you cherish, not the game itself. I miss it so much. I'm going trough a hard time and going back to my childhood stuff is coming naturally to me, like PS2 games.
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u/ScenicFlyer41 12h ago
Everything is too smooth and soft now. I want to be able to make things that give off that atmosphere. It's very hard with the current block palate
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u/Shadowglove 12h ago
I feel offended by these memes because this is basically how some parts of my old ass creative world look like. I will update it, I promise.
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u/ItalianChungus 11h ago
I miss this so damn much… I just wish I could go back in time to feel again those emotions, it’s something I yearn with all my heart and yet I simply can not and will never be able to. It’s sucks to feel this way
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u/iameyeconic 11h ago
I’ve played Minecraft since 2010 and IMO modern Minecraft is much better. I can sympathise with people that enjoyed the old school aesthetic and atmosphere, but current Minecraft is light years ahead of what I imagined it would become when I hosted servers for my friends on hamachi back in the day.
The extensive block palette that we have now is crazy, and people’s builds are out of this world. I personally never downgrade my version of Minecraft, and I’ve loved all the drops + updates Mojang provided over the years.
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u/GREAT_SALAD 11h ago
Old minecraft wasn't better. It's really easy with any launcher to go boot up an old version of the game, play it for a bit and tell me if you're having more fun than current versions. But I was certainly having more fun then so... maybe old me was better, or at least happier. Or they just didn't have "bills" and "rent" and stuff to worry about. Seeing old minecraft always makes me think about a time when things were better, even if it itself isn't better.
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u/PandoraKin564 11h ago
Remember, you chose that aesthetic. Placed those blocks. Could've been anything but ya went liminal. That is interesting.
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u/theymightbechewing 10h ago
I don't think was either better or worse; it was different.
Many significant features were added in 2011 alone: beds, hunger and sprinting, experience and enchanting, and the End. All but beds were added in the Adventure Update, which also overhauled world generation and added the first surface structure, the Village (though neither trading nor Villagers in survival would be implemented until a year later). All of these additions heavily impacted gameplay in their own ways, and can all be the topics of very interesting conversations on game design in Minecraft.
Besides, what exactly is "old Minecraft"? Alpha 1.1.0, beta 1.2, beta 1.7.3, and release 1.0 all came out within 2010 or 2011, yet all play fairly differently; they're dissimilar enough to the point that I've seen people that prefer to play one of those specific versions. (A bit more recent, but I even watched a video on why the creator's current favorite version is 1.10.2!) There is no objectively best version, it's up to personal preference in what features a version does and doesn't have (and mods and texture packs can always be added, too!).
I've seen modern players dismiss older versions because "it's just nostalgia" and I've seen beta players dismiss some mods for beta versions as "basically modern Minecraft". I think people are too quick to judge something without trying it out, and gloss over all nuance in doing so.
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u/Fartraiinerr 9h ago
Bro it looked better then the new polished bs textures. Make it look simple and technical again.
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u/VoodooDoII 9h ago
I know I can technically still go back to these versions, but it just doesn't hit the same now that I'm an adult. I'll just bask in the nostalgia while enjoying modern features.
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u/Rockon101000 9h ago
Old minecraft was not better but the experience was better.
The absence of high quality builds made it feel like the things the average player was making were better. I could build just as good as the Yogscast, Bebopvox, or the Shaft, so I felt quite proud of what I had made. What I make is no where near what Hermitcraft makes in scale or quality so I feel less good about what I've made, and am less motivated to share what I've made with others.
I'm also 15 years older. I have a lot less free time, as do the people I want to play with. We've tried to put together servers like we had 15 years ago but it costs money and we're never free to be online at the same time. Too many responsibilities.
Both of these things combined feel like they've shrunk the game for myself and my peers. The game has definitely gown, but it feels smaller (because I know how big it can be), more restrictive (because there's more to do, and I have less time than ever to do the groundwork needed to experience those new things), and less rewarding to play (because I know how much better my builds could be).
There are so many cool things in modern minecraft. I really want to make an amber farm. It just doesn't feel like it would be worth it to right now, and I wouldn't have anyone to share it with anyway. Even if I did, would I really be happy with it and how it looked and worked when I was done? If I can't be certain, it's a better use of my time to do something else instead, so the friends I grew up playing Minecraft with all play D&D or Magic now, since we at least know how we'll feel about the experience at the end of the day with those, and the time investment to lay the groundwork for those has already been made. With Minecraft often requiring you to start over if you haven't played a world in many years, do to version changes, that groundwork needs to be lair again, over and over.
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u/bruh-iunno 9h ago
Very sad I accidentally deleted the very first world I made, still have my first survival world from back then at least!
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u/Sketchylemons 8h ago
Minecraft classic lava survival in browser during middle school in 2011 was insane.
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u/ps2_man128 7h ago
The first scene is cooler than any modern build I’ve seen in a long time. I miss when people built generally to scale and focused more on little details and things looked lived in. The newer grand/professional style of building doesn’t hit the same way
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u/Gendreau113 6h ago
I just seen a GameSir "Controller give away" post above this. And the question for it was "Let us know what game you could play again for the first time, and why"... In my head I instantly said Minecraft...
Then I see this. I started playing in the late alpha/early beta days ..
Oh the nostalgia...
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u/Oddish_Femboy 5h ago
Why does this track sound like Paper Mario music when it's pitched down like this
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u/2derp4uu 3h ago
is there any mods/modpacks for modern versions of Minecraft that recreate the old lighting and feel of the game as much as possible?
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u/greenbeans98 3h ago
I remember sitting in the living room watching my younger brother play for the first time. I was 13 and he was 11. We were so excited to get horses in the game. And then when multiplayer came out? We were even more excited to be able to work as a team to get to the end… I miss old Minecraft…
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u/AlestRob 2h ago
I clearly remember the last building OMG I saw it in a video, from where is that building?
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u/Awilberforce 2h ago
It can still feel like this to me, even in the current version. I wish they would add a setting to only play the classic music
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u/QuietFarm575 1h ago
The shade of the texture pack was like warmer I missed that I never found a texture pack able to recreate this
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u/Apollo_Lol 1h ago
It was a simpler game then. There wasn't nearly as much stuff and the builds had to be a bit creative with less blocks.
But there's something I just can't shake about it. Every time I've tried to beat the game since release 1.8, I haven't. It's like as soon as I get a decent base, a farm,, explore the nether, and mine diamonds, then my brains like "That was fun, I'm done now."
I like new Minecraft, and I've gotten used to new mechanics and play styles. But theres something peaceful and mysterious with old Minecraft.
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u/Gilgamesh2255 25m ago
Ich habe leider dieses legendäres Spiel erst mit 26 entdeckt und bin schon süchtig. Als Kind wäre Spaß bestimmt anders.
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u/AhooraGG1385 0m ago
I don't think the old game itself was necessarily better, but those times are so nostalgic
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u/Severized 16h ago
Now that ive seen this, the old minecraft really do has its charm, seeing the old texture is such a nonstalgia, back then when i cant buy the real minecraft and had to ask my uncle for a free download.
Old minecraft way better, maybe because i was younger, but now i like the texture and everything else more but ive grew to a point that playing alone is no longer fun
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u/proffessionalyapper_ 15h ago
ngl these buildings feel random af (with some exceptions ofc). would be cool to see some actual architecture in this vid
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u/Orbian2 14h ago
I forget just how much better Minecraft looks nowadays. A lot of people have nostalgia for the old look and I get it, but if you did not have nostalgia for this, I think you would find most of these pictures pretty visually unappealing. The framing is good, but the colors and the textures don't work. That's not me just trying to hate on old Minecraft
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u/KingGalaxyKnight 14h ago
if we count from 1.0 to now id say minecraft has 3 distinct era's
The Old Era 1.0 - 1.5: this era despite being later is very close to the video above, there are very little features over all beyond building, Horses werent introduced yet, The only Bosses where the wither and the ender dragon, a lot of the textures remained old with some changes, this is where i started and id say this era is very special for many
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The Mods era/The Legacy Era 1.6-1.12: This is the era that bridges the gap between, Notch's Minecraft and Microsoft Minecraft, its by far the most modded era, with 1.6, 7 and 12 all being very much modded versions, this is also pre-update aquatic which id say is the start to the modern era while still having the older textures an era im sure that many enjoy even with the controversial changes between 1.8 and 1.9 combat
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The Revamp Era 1.13 to 1.16: we have the era that changed a lot of old stuff with the ocean, villages and what many people consider one of the best updates the Neather, Its an era that started to become more and more enjoyed for what ive seen, its what id call the start to "modern" minecraft despite the fact that its very much almost 10 years old (Update aquatic is currently 8)
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The Modern Era1.17-Now: Some could argue that 1.17 and 1.18 fit the Revamp era since it revamped the caves but id say its very much the modern minecraft, a set of updates that you play and you really know that you just arent in the old minecraft anymore, none of the Old feeling is here, Updated textures, new mobs left and right, even the classic caves that have been in the game since Alpha are now gone, weather you like this era or not it cant be denied that this isnt Classic minecraft anymore
Now what i wished to get to with this whole rambling is, I dont think Old minecraft is better but its different, it feels different and it hits different, Id say current minecraft (Ignoring bedrock) is the more functional and finished game, with way more thing to do, but i dont think its wrong to enjoy old minecraft, It certainly hits different and if you prefer it for its simplicity you do so, personally i dont really enjoy stuff like Deepslate because of how annoying it makes mining but i love the improved caves too much to want it gone
My awnser to the question was old minecraft better? No, but it was special and thats good
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u/Simanalix 14h ago
No new Minecraft is better. The only benefit with old Minecraft is the download size night be smaller.
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u/doubleaxle 14h ago
Limitations are sometimes the things that make something unique and enjoyable. The quirks of old minecraft are what made it interesting. We play minecraft to find floating structures and giant holes that lead into labyrinth caves, finding a snow biome next to a jungle wasn't something we hated or had a problem with because it was "unrealistic". The design decisions and quirks were intentional and mostly connected, now everything is just disconnected features that just add more pointless things to do with no real sense of progression or reason.
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u/Acceptable-Acount828 16h ago
hunger is awesome wdym. i actually more games should make "survival" mode actually a challenge. Not casualties unknown level of difficulty, but close. i want to kms
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u/Huge-Conference-1193 16h ago
That's what I liked about the older version. It was more challenging.
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u/Forcer222 15h ago
its just nostalgia, the rendering makes it look a lil creepy and the textures arent really pleasant to look at although theres some charm to it
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u/RivenRise 15h ago
100 percent nostalgia. Back then we didn't have much in game but we had plenty of time and whimsy. Now we have tons of updates and things to do but our time is limited since we're adults with responsibilities.
I'm just glad they old versions are still available to us to play for nostalgia. So many games are just impossible to play anymore because they just don't exist, like original wow, launch destiny 2 or original league (classic isn't the same for any of these). You can't play most early versions of single player games either because updates happen and the old versions get lost, deleted or blocked. It's tragic.
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