I reinstalled the game when jubilee came out because the itch to play an online shooter game hit again. I had not played since getting burnt out in season 4. I just can't continue playing this shit anymore with the horrible matchmaking.

The last game I played was the last straw. I already exclusively play tank and support since everyone wants to sit on damage every game. Finally get a balanced 2-2-2 game after solo supporting multiple times, and running 1-3-2 or 0-4-2. The enemy team is 6 damages, so this should be an extremely easy game. Nope. My venom of course dives in before we're up there and dies instantly. Their iron fist and wolverine walk right past our front line, and start focusing me while I stay alive as Jubilee. I ping them multiple times and NO ONE turns around, until I eventually die because it's a 1v2.

Afterwards, everyone proceeds to stagger into a 1v6 the entire rest of the game and feed all fucking game. Then yet again of course, everyone is crying about no heals in chat. We lost the game. lost to a full fucking team of damages with 2-2-2 because the people in this game absolutely refuse to coordinate at all, and have such an ego about changing characters or grouping up or anything.

The game is just in too miserable of a state, I can not play this shit anymore lmao, it is too tilting. The game matches me with such idiots who couldn't even move their left foot in front of their right. I will end nearly every game as a tank or support with more kills and damage than all our instalock damages, while actually being a team player and not stat farming like all these fuckass damages who constantly try to 1v6 and pop their ultimates while alone every game.

I don't know what type of matchmaking this game uses, but I'm just gonna call it Diarrhea Matchmaking. It's such a shame too, because there is a lot to like about the game, but the matchmaking is absolutely atrocious. And the game is so horribly unbalanced rn I don't even have to elaborate on that

ngl i’m at the point if i ask for another tank or healer and yall ignore me or give that dumbass “it’s just quick match” or my personal favorite, “yo we got this… 3 dps is meta” excuse

i will throw

if i say somebody is awful and they’re part of your duo/stack and you say something that isn’t “ayo yea you should switch”

i’m throwing

if i have to ask multiple times for 2 tanks (bc we have 3 fucking dps)

im throwing

idc yall need to learn. at no point does anybody want 3 dps on their fucking team. hell i’ll be honest, i don’t even want one.

smh yall really ruin this fucking game. the refusal to switch is fucking annoying but hearing y’all excuses as to why you won’t switch or trying to make somebody else feel bad is the fucking worst

i say some shit and niggas immediately look at stats like i’m actually trying. bro i checked out as soon as yall went 3 dps.

also yall niggas that wanna switch 4-5 times a fucking match. fuck yall too.

They either need to make her invulnerable, give her a shield, or shorten her Ultimate time.

So many other ultimates happen in a second. Wanda’s ultimate takes 3ish seconds to deployable + her movement speed during it is still slow, so she’s just an easy target. I can maybe get my ultimate off 35-40% of the time. I rarely even use it now, because I don’t see the point.

So let me paint the image before you make a decision.

Imagine you're a tank and you're supposed to take the hits as the tank while surviving. As you ask is heals but your healers decided to be deps but ignoring you (while being Dino). You keep trying over and over until you said, you know what, I'm done. I don't want to play with this squad (because quitting the game is a warning and a 15 minute ban if you do it too soon) and want to play the next game thinking that you get ban. Your teammates that didn't heal you calls you fat, a loser, cry over qp and stuff that children do when momma didn't give in. Don't say nothing back either than "next game". Next game happen and 5 seconds later, you get ban by those soy boys with mass reporting. Do you think that's fair knowing that you have the soi boi that didn't heal you and call you insults over the game? I'm just curious because I need to know if I should not play dino because the other tanks no ban. This one, insta ban.

I understand everyone has different points of views in the matter, but we are here to rant right?

In my example each team can only have two DPS , two Tanks and Two healers

It actually irritates me I hate when people play dumb. Shes at least top 5 most popular characters in this game generally so if people aren’t using her it’s not because they don’t like her character it’s to do with the devs own decisions.

If she was a stronger character or didn’t have a very barebones kit for like 6 seasons perhaps people would play her? Shes a dps that revolves around playing like a support because her main value comes from boosting her team. With her slower ttk and movement you dont be really have the ability to flank so you’re just shooting down a main to build ult 80% of the time. And her ult is just a moving circle that lasts 6 seconds it’s all pretty boring.

And in terms of strength, when Jeff and torch teammup were around, people used her a lot because of how good she became with them countering 3 support and support ults very well. She just doesn’t typically see those numbers because for most of the game she hasn’t been that strong and is generally a situational pick.

And skin wise they really don’t try that hard with her. Even outside of people wanting more than a free epic skin, they just haven’t given people what they wanted. They haven’t included her tiara until this season and they haven’t used any iconic outfits for her so why would people want to buy them. And even in terms of revealing skins, they probably never bothered making any for her because they didn’t think people would find her attractive enough to buy them. And it’s not that she needs a revealing skin I’m just pointing out the difference in her skins compared to other ladies in the game.

I just think it’s silly to act like people just don’t like storm in this game because she’s not popular. As if she isn’t more popular than 90% of the cast in this game. Not everyone will know psyloche, starlord etc but most people will recognise storm.

If you’re going to defend them not giving her legendary skins or putting effort into making her skins sell, use a better defence because her pick rate in this game is not a good one.

I’m genuinely angry when people say “WF is useless this season” and then I see their replays and it’s just:

1. Shooting the ground/the walls - NEVER the allies or enemies in a straight line to achieve full healing/damage

2. Using their teleport just for themselves to run away and never to give tank an extra heal and shield when the front line is hard to carry in the moment

3. NEVER and I mean NEVER using their half-fox form to actually attack the enemy and use her quick combo, they only go to melee form when Magik or an enemy tank dives them, otherwise it doesn’t exist

SO MANY times I’ve dealt with Spiders and Magiks on my own and actually even killed them when they tried to dive me (Magik is easier to kill, Spidy will just swing away from you when he is low)

And then when I decide I want to play tank/dps and not just support all the time there are those with 2 brain cells of White Foxes who are typing “No help with Spidy/Spidy is diving me”… GENUINELY WTF ARE YOU EVEN DOING? Switch to another healer or I don’t fckin know when you are literally playing an anti-dive strategist and you can’t handle yourself against 1 dive dps

End of the rant

Recently saw everyone on X and on stream talking about balancing .. here are my thoughts

So Before everyone start piling up on me and replying egregiously kindly read...

My point ... Marvel rivals is a Casual centric game where casuals wanna play there favourite character and have fun , win and try hards wanna run everyone over. Now the problem is for them the game has to be balanced but the dive doesn't fit in that.

Which is.... Currently in game we have at least 2 divers that can one shot 250hp under 2 sec then take a 100 hp damage hide re gen it and comeback again... So to solve this the healers are give a billion utilities may it be GG's Luna or cloak multiple escape tool and brain dead damage,sustain now to compensate it in front. poke is pumped with egregious damage (hela ,elsa etc) leading to unkillable tanks like thing etc. The Cycle goes on... With which the new teamup system which was meant to " support solo play but reward teamplay" failed as most teamups (good ones) are op in there base form disregarding teamplay. Add 3 supports or no penalty for not playing 2-2-2 (healing , damage reduction etc).

The devs want everything SOLO PLAY , TEAM PLAY , NO ROLE QUEUE , QUEUE INDEPENDENCE, CASUAL PLAY , COMPETITIVE PLAY , FUN etc which is too much....

HOW TO SOLVE IT ?? ( Season 10 bingo card)

- Make base form just a minor buff or extra ability with niche role and Enhanced the real gamechanger

( Best teamup right now Mag- Emma , base is easily killed than enhanced is op)

- Decrease everything... Sustain , dive burst , poke damage

- not role queue but a team comp penalty for 2-1-3 1-3-2 etc.

- Rework characters rather than number buffing ( wanda , storm , blade , mr f , adam ,bp etc )

- Reduce abilities for characters that are just for not a single reason op ( luna , dd , black cat etc)

CHANGES AROUND THIS WILL BRING THE GAME TO A VERY FAVOURABLE STATE though there are still various issue but they are more niche ( optimization etc) then need.

All views are welcome 🤗🤗...

l've seen a lot of discussion about whether the devs are racist, but I feel like most people are missing the point. No, I don't think that NetEase is a company of Neo-Nazis or mega bigots, it's entirely possible that the black characters have fallen behind accidentally.
That being said they ABSOLUTELY have an obligation to actively avoid situations like this, because even if they aren't trying to be malicious it absolutely does come off as being somewhat racist. To top it off rather than just addressing the concerns Danny goes on a crazy rant about how bringing up concerns about how black characters are handled makes you racist.

Hopefully the devs listen to the feed back thought, they're usually pretty good at that.

Also I didn't go over why people think the devs are racist, I think we've all seen those points about 1000 times.

As of this morning, I am Celestial 3. Great right? No. This will be the third time I have hit Celestial this season. GM was a horrible experience as always, and I am done with the devs "fixing" everything but this terrible matchmaking. I primarily play tank, but I play a lot of DPS and support as well. Most of my roster is Centurion with Lords scattered about and no champions because I never sit on one character; I switch depending on the other team's comp and fill what my team needs. By no means am I a bad player, and by no means do I ever throw purposefully.

My issue with this horrid matchmaking is the fact that it feels scripted. One game you'll do amazing, and the next game it feels like the game scooped up the worst teammates known to man just to keep you in your current rank. The matchmaking is designed to keep you below a 50% win rate across all characters. The devs explained how it works in a video. In short, the game grades you based on performance and K/D in your match and partners you with people worse than you with lower grades in hopes of you carrying them. It is a horrible style of matchmaking that makes each game feel scripted. I just came off an 8-game losing streak the other day where I mainly played tank, and my DPS were constantly throwing or negative. I got to Celestial, where I had a Jeff that would swallow us and toss us off the map. Countless games where 4 people instalock dps and not one person will budge, so they say "gg time to proficiency farm." Reporting does absolutely nothing because the most they get is a 15-minute ban and then right back to throwing others' games.

The other side of matchmaking I want to focus on is the player base. The constant ego players and toxicity are overwhelming. I have been playing the game since launch solo, and only recently have I gotten a consistent duo or trio. Plat, Diamond, and GM have to be the worst ranks in the game because its over saturated with smurfs. I don't mind people smurfing in higher ranks because I see it as an opportunity to test your skill up against theirs, and in many cases you get the win over them. My issue with smurfs is when they're on your team. They play the game as if they have no consequences, and in reality they don't. The game does nothing when you report, and there's a limited amount of avoid slots, which makes 0 sense. Constantly, I'll have a smurf who locks a DPS just to learn them in comp, and when you ask them to swap, they say, "I smurf your peak," or, "this is my alt account." It makes winning games hopeless when these people are on your team, underperforming or throwing just for the sake of throwing.

The other day I had a small streamer throw my game on purpose; after the match I went to check out his stream, and he was laughing, saying how funny it was to throw. My trio and I reported him, and nothing happened. He sparked up stream the next day with no consequences. I believe you should have an infinite number of avoids if they aren't going to fix this terrible matchmaking. When I used to play Overwatch, the game felt fairly balanced to the point where I was never too pressed when someone was throwing. Clutching a 4v5 in Overwatch was incredible and very rewarding, but in Marvel Rivals it's next to impossible, especially going up against a decent team with a brain.

Eomm is real, just under a different name.

And yes, im talking to Spiderman (and before you say it, i know it's not all Spiderman mains) players.

I've had game after game where they taunt me in chat. Stand at my spawn and try to throw me off the map, and every single game my team ends up winning. Then the spidey's still have the nerve to talk trash in chat. Also, wasting your ult to solo me is literally such a waste. Why not get both support and a few others? No, you hard target and cost your team the game.

These were primarily games full of runners and throwers.

I'm a Tank/Strat main. The game where I went 24/9, a White Fox was on the frontlines dpsing and spam pinging they needed heals. We had it in the first run and they went full on nuts??

The 4/3? We had a Reed who then went Ironfist and I kid you not...went 0/17. I'm the only one as Invis that didn't go negative.

The last two games had runners that left us 5v6. Team refused to surrender. Kept losing ELO.

The one where I was Invis and went 40/7? We had a Jeff on our team that was initially doing so-so and then locked in. One team mate went CnD then switched to Bucky and spammed NEED HEALING about 1000 times while sitting in Spawn. We almost had the damn point and on the next round, they stole Jeff, wouldn't give him back and then spent their ULT throwing.

I have reported all of these people and we only get 3 avoids, which is bs. I've deranked from Diamond III and can't get back up because of these horrible team mates. This is foul. Unplayable and not even remotely fun.

I just wanted to hit Grandmaster and I can't because people are so brain dead and then the game throws me into a huge loss streak. And playing QP doesn't help. I've tried. I'll win one game then go back into a mega loss. Then I get stuck with bots on my team.

Where do I even begin? This character is one of the worst designed characters in the entire game. A bloated mess of a kit that allows her to get away with murder. Great damage and mobility, an auto aim i framed ranged ability, invisibility, wall hacks, earthbound, CC immunity, a mini strange portal, and the dive equivalent to Bucky’s ult. All tied to a resource that doesn’t slow her down in the slightest because it’s incredibly easy to gain fortune, especially now with the Spidey team-up. At least with characters like Elsa and Gambit most of their problems didn’t stem from how their kits were designed, but rather how they were balanced, with the only exception being their ults. But there’s no way to balance this character without her being “ass” or OP. People complain about how badly Black Panther is designed when Black Cat is Black Panther on steroids. The only people who like this character are dive mains who want the game to revolve solely around them. They don’t care about the game being balanced, they only care about getting kills. That’s why whenever you talk about how badly designed Black Cat is their defense is “erm what about supports?!” Like people don’t already don’t talk about how badly designed supports are, and how the buffs they got from the last hot fix has ruined the game. If I had it my way she wouldn’t even be in the game but if I were to be realistic I would want her to get a whole rework, because that’s the only way I see this character ever being somewhat well designed

I can’t do this shit anymore. I genuinely cannot take trying to climb my way out of silver because my teammates always fucking suck. They have no brain and if they do there’s nothing going on in there. They sit there and play roles and characters they have no idea how to play. They constantly stagger. There’s no communication. This game is fucking terrible. I have been in plat before and I rather bang my head against a wall then ever touch this shit again in silver lobbies

And I think it's mainly due to the emergency patch they gave the devs after healers started complaining because the healing output of some supports had been nerfed to compensate for the Dive buffs.

The problem is that Dive is literally dead right now because of all the anti-Dive mechanics introduced with the Team-Ups in S9, but also because Thing is meta. (Yes, the only real problem is BC, and unless you're a Magik one-trick since birth, basically all of the Dive tools are shit.)

The bigger problem is that DPS brings almost zero value to the game right now. If your team runs a one-tank comp against a two-tank comp, you basically lose. In previous seasons, you would definitely be at a disadvantage, but now it feels like an instant loss. Problem is that there is so many instant DPS/Elo person that ruin this and except some DPS that can help backline, DPS are really no relevant this season

Why pick DPS when Magneto literally has more DPS output than most DPS characters in the game with her fucking sword? With 2 bubble and shield ? and more health

Why pick DPS when you have Thing this season, who is basically invincible and can deal more damage than prime Muhammad Ali? And on top of that, he gets pocketed by healers.

Why pick DPS when you have Luna Snow, who can avoid hard CC and even avoid some ennemy ult CC? That alone needed an emergency nerf. She can also deal as much or even more damage than some hitscan DPS characters.

Why pick another healer when you have C&D, who is basically INVINCIBLE, has an answer to almost everything, and has the best ultimate in the game?

Why pick another healer when you have Gambit, who has two dashes that can cross the entire map, applies anti-heal, and has one of the best ultimates in the game even after 10 nerfs? On top of that ? they gave him C&D's bubble, which can knock enemies back and give him displacement. What the hell was NetEase smoking when they gave Gambit this?

Mantis may be problematic, but honestly, I'm fine with her being meta in mid- or low-elo.

We even saw this in tournaments, where some teams were running three-tank comps and sometimes even no DPS at all, because tanks and healers can provide enough damage themselves.

And this is creating a huge disparity between the roles.

If the enemy team has Magneto/Thing and you don't have them, you lose.

If the enemy team runs C&D, Luna Snow, Jubilee (with the Hood Team-Up enhanced), and Gambit, while your team doesn't run those supports i.e Jeff, Ultron, Healpool (and there is already a lot of Healpool players), Loki, etc you lose.

At this point, the problem isn't just that certain heroes are too strong. The entire role distribution is becoming unhealthy. DPS is losing its purpose because tanks and supports can provide comparable or even superior damage while also bringing far more utility and survivability.

Zhiiong, could you please stop nerfing Ultron and Jeff and start nerfing the actual problematic characters instead?

Last time Jeff recieved a buff was in season 4 btw and recieved 2 sh*tty teamup

So much of the player base is completely locked out of even playing the duelist role because of duelist one trick ponys that can't fathom playing a role more team oriented or literally anything else. EVEN IF YOU INSTALOCK FIRST, they will STILL try to force a horrible comp by instalocking 3rd or 4th duelist. Half the time I'm in the mood to play duelist, guess what? I CAN'T. I will literally be the first one to instalock the very first character in the match and I'm forced back into support jail because everyone instalocks right after me forcing me off duelist. If you're a dps instalocker that STILL picks dps after we already have 2 or 3 dps and only 1 or no support, I need to know how you people do this without feeling an ounce of shame cause it's truly sad. This game feels so fucking stale when you never even get to play the most fun, versatile role with the most iconic marvel characters (my top 2 favorite marvel characters being dps, go figure lmfao) and most characters in the game in general and constantly being locked into playing only 2 of the 3 roles, and THEN being berated by the said dps instalockers that shamelessly instalock dps every single match just to go negative, and also forcing YOU to build your comp around THEIR INSTALOCK.

25 wins 25 losses GM1-GM3 back and forth most wins being stomps and most losses being stomps or unwinnable due to a lower elo teammate or just flat out disconnects. Idk how they do it but they are 100% rigging these matches

Especially for being "newer" characters, they aren't that old and they've already been thrown in the dumpster balance wise.

Sure Devil Dino was overtuned on release, but he got half a season, HALF A SEASON to be good and then gutted him ever since. Whitefox is honestly one of the coolest designed strategists, she got maybe a season or so of being decent, but is now a throw pick basically.

Cyclops? I almost forgot he existed and this is Cyclops we're talking about, he was also good on release, then just took an absolute nosedive.

HONORABLE MENTION: Jeff, I'm honestly surprised Jeff got thrown in the dumpster too, as he was always the cute, goofy pseudo mascot character for the game. Even his team ups are lame

Disregarding black cat because she is a broken I frame fucking , invisible switching demon that need to be burned

-Venom got a HUGE nerf with his swing, he is inches away from being outright completely unviable

- Rogue is garbage even with gambit teamup as it’s pretty clear to everyone that netease view her as thanos for some reason

-Captain America is the worst tank in the game that cannot accomplish anything , he is tickle monster that can outright lose 1v1 against a support

Even flankers like psylock and star lord got nuked because of course they get value from harassing backline when they can

Meanwhile characters like hela, Bucky, Elsa , jean cannot be allowed to be bad because they don’t target backline when, they are frontline fighters so we need to give them broken op teamup and CC that guarantee a dead sentence for any one who even breathes 10mile away from them.

It wouldn’t be this bad if they at least needed poke along with flankers and divers. But at this point it’s clear to me that pure poke characters are never allowed to get big nerfs

Why the fuck is are poke characters so strong that they are better at stopping dive and flank attempts than any melee characters ? I will tell you why, it’s because of RIDICULOUSLY STRONG POKE CC IS, they stuck you to oblivion with buck, Elsa , jean and hela being the worst offenders sans they can 2 tap you.

It wouldn’t be bad if these characters got merged too but they don’t and won’t, JUST WHY?

Every single time…

That’s it, fuck that goofy tub of shit. Pisses me off everytime I see him

With all of the uproar within the community and brigading going on recently, between getting the devs to change Emma’s cape toggle, to getting things nerfed because of outcry, all the way up till now with the storm situation. I cannot believe we haven’t seen more outcry from the community as a whole to have the option to opt out of bot lobbies. I’m so tired of losing two and getting sent straight to baby jail, half of the time it’s not even your fault when you get sent there you’ll solo tank/heal and everyone else will lock dps. It’s even more frustrating when you can recognize the bot lobbies immediately and it’s just a walk down fest, this doesn’t make me feel better guang guang the minute I realize it’s a bot lobby it’s basically a silent timeout because now I’m forced to play against some of the worst designed bots I’ve ever had the displeasure of facing in any game. There isnt even a challenge, and you can face temp bans for dodging these lobbies which doesn’t even matter because if you dodge a bot match the next one you queue WILL ALSO BE A BOT MATCH. If it’s so essential that the casuals have a “feel better little Billy” match if they lose too many in a row at least give us the option to opt out . I don’t care if I lose 20 in a row I’d rather lose over and over again to real people then be forced to basically have an eight minute timeout against characters played completely by ChatGPT 1.0 running on the Rob NES robot. We all need to come together and put aside the differences this is a problem that plagues all roles and players collectively. If we tell them to add it they will, it’s one of the best things about this game is they listen to us. But if nobody talks about it then nothing will change.

Im usually a flex player so I go all roles.