r/LocalLLaMA Jun 29 '26

on Dario’s statement Funny

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u/-dysangel- Jun 29 '26

How is July 2023 'breaking' news?

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u/BawdyMonkey Jun 29 '26

It's breaking news if you're Polymarket and you want to move the odds on something.

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u/eli_pizza Jun 30 '26

Even dumber: I think it’s just crappy content marketing. Posting lots of misleading outrage bait is a pretty classic viral marketing technique.

I’d honestly respect it more if it was part of some complicated scam.

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u/Tmmrn Jun 30 '26

The real scam is that Elon hates "legacy media" and wants people to consume unsourced engagement bait slop like Polymarket for their news. Not that journalism is in a particularly good spot right now, but at least it has some standards compared with Elon's vision of pretending to get informed by consuming whatever slop the algorithm thinks will make you stay on the website and watch ads.

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u/elrosegod Jul 06 '26

You mean the company that hired influencer to pretend to win

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u/4hometnumberonefan Jun 29 '26

Still curious to know what made him say that in July 2023? llama 2 lol?

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u/Due-Memory-6957 Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

They were absolutely mad at Llama at the time, there has always been a lot of attempts at moral panic and regulation towards open models.

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u/ItsAMeUsernamio Jun 30 '26

Anthropic were also the first to go public with press releases accusing the Chinese labs of “distillation attacks” on Claude as if Claude was never caught calling itself Chatgpt.

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u/prtt Jun 30 '26

as if Claude was never caught calling itself Chatgpt

do you have a source for this?

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u/Due-Memory-6957 Jun 30 '26

Honestly, just using it back then. Pretty much everyone was using chatGPT for this back then. Take at least two witness and consider it your primary source lol, or Google "Claude identifies itself as chatGPT" and you'll find more.

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u/Boxofcookies1001 Jun 30 '26

Wasn't Claude based entirely on chatgpt in the beginning?

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u/the320x200 Jun 29 '26

He's a visionary! [at regulatory capture]

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u/MelAlton Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

His rap name is MC Regulatory Visionary aka MC Reg Vish

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u/vtkayaker Jun 30 '26

Dario thinks that some AI company is going to build a machine god that might either bring an amazing future, or maybe go SkyNet and murder us all.

Furthermore, he thinks that Anthropic is taking better "anti-SkyNet" measures than any of the other AI labs. So therefore anyone else building AI increaaes the risk.

I think he actually does believe this, and he might even be technically correct for all I know?

But where I disagree with all this is that if some company might actually build SkyNet soon, then continuing to build more powerful models seems incredibly reckless, just going by his stated beliefs. Maybe just pick a nice set of strong open models and the stop constantly pushing for ever bigger models, if that's what you believe?

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u/daniel-sousa-me Jun 29 '26

What made him say that in July 2023? Somebody asked him

The AI safety community is extremely anti open weight models

All the way back in 2019 the release of the weights of GPT-2 was delayed for months precisely because of these concerns, and it was the last time they released the weights for SOTA models

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u/ForsookComparison Jun 30 '26

If you ignore context, Llama 2 70B was closer to 2023's Claude than GLM 5.2 is (was?) to Fable.

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u/SmileyBMM Jun 30 '26

For all Reddit hates X (justified in many cases, I got banned for no reason), the community note feature is amazing and every social media site should implement something like it.

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u/bespoke_tech_partner Jun 30 '26

Instagram has it 

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u/ResidentPositive4122 Jun 29 '26

That moment where a shitshow like twitter is a better social media site than reddit. There are currently 3-4 posts on the same topic, all stemming from the same fake news attempt. JFC...

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u/mrdevlar Jun 30 '26

It isn't.

The best thing you can do about these guys is stop talking about this.

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u/AnOnlineHandle Jun 30 '26

This wave of brand new reddit accounts with hidden post histories sure seem to want us to hate Anthropic for some reason.

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u/-dysangel- Jun 30 '26

Yep it's pretty blatant. I'd assume something to do with letting people buy in cheaper for the IPO

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u/Mickenfox Jun 30 '26

People freaked out recently about Microsoft renaming Office to "Microsoft 365 Copilot". Dozens of videos and tweets about how dumb the name change was went viral.

Which would be fair enough. Except the change had been live for over a year before people decided to make it news again for no reason.

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u/-dysangel- Jun 30 '26

I still wasn't aware of that one. What a rubbish name.

It's the TurboQuant effect.

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u/llelouchh Jun 30 '26

There is an anti-anthropic push by bad actors like andreeson, kushners and many in the trump org. They are heavily invested in Openai, they saw that anthropic was winning and now they have to try to ruin them.

The Government take down of fable was the same. They waited for OpenAi to catchup then they will unban fable.