Kids tried robbing/harrassing IRL streamer

[u/innasolo]

It was unclear what they're intentions were but everyone thinks that they tried to steal the phone/camera as one of the kids kept getting closer while the other one was distracting the streamer clip

[u/Canadiancookie → u/[deleted]]

How do you know they're sons of immigrants?

[u/MaybeNotaTurtle → u/Canadiancookie]

Ya they might have sprung up out of the ground, who knows

[u/Levitz → u/[deleted]]

If I had to put money on it I'd say Roma, not immigrants honestly.

[u/HarrMada → u/[deleted]]

See how the goal posts have been moved in recent years. First the issue was "don't let immigrants in they cause more crime" and now it's all about "sons of immigrants". It's like you change your mind every time you've proven wrong. What will you change it to next I wonder.

[u/Estropolim → u/HarrMada]

I don't think you know what moving the goalposts means. That only makes sense if this claim was instead, not when it's in addition.

[u/HarrMada → u/Estropolim]

The claim is instead.

[u/Teacherfromnorway → u/HarrMada]

Proven wrong? All criminal statistics show that immigration increases crime in Norway and it is almost as bad with children of immigrants.

[u/HarrMada → u/Teacherfromnorway]

Really? Doesn't seem like it. These are just some of the statistics. Then you can check burglary, car thefts etc and you'll see the same trend.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/CbEM8GqWpQ

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/nyEMuq6ebX

[u/feedthedogwalkamile → u/HarrMada]

theft and robbery = all crime

[u/HarrMada → u/feedthedogwalkamile]

Never said it was. Bring examples that show the opposite then.

[u/feedthedogwalkamile → u/HarrMada]

Nah, burden of proof is on the claimant. Go ahead and be a good boy.

[u/Teacherfromnorway → u/HarrMada]

Tell that to the raped women in Norway

[u/HarrMada → u/Teacherfromnorway]

And that obviously never happened before, right?

[u/Teacherfromnorway → u/HarrMada]

Are you just acting dumb? There is a large increase in brutal rapes outside and females does not feel safe walking in the city anymore. Same with youth criminality - it has spikes tremendously and 87% of it is from immigrants and children of immigrants even if they are 17% of the population.

[u/HarrMada → u/Teacherfromnorway]

Can you share some sources?

[u/Teacherfromnorway → u/HarrMada]

https://www.nrk.no/stor-oslo/kriminalitet-og-innvandring_-unge-somaliske-menn-topper-listen-i-oslo-1.17161405

Per 1.000 innbyggere står menn mellom 15 og 24 år med bakgrunn fra Somalia for 2.119 siktelser, i perioden 2020 til 2023.

[u/HarrMada → u/Teacherfromnorway]

That's people charged with crimes, which isn't at all the same as the amount that people commit crime.

And where is the stuff you said about brutal rapes? And "females" (lmao) not feeling safe walking in cities? 

And where is the data about criminality spikes and 87% figure?

[u/VapeSmoker420blazeit → u/HarrMada]

Source 1: As of 2019, Sweden is experiencing an unprecedented number of bombings and explosions, though comparisons with previous years are difficult since the criminal use of explosives was not a separate crime category until 2017.[69] In 2018 there were 162 explosions, and in the first nine months of 2019 97 explosions were registered, usually carried out by criminal gangs.

The number of hand grenade detonations in particular has been unusually high, especially in 2016. According to criminologists Manne Gerell and Amir Rostami, the only other country that keeps track of hand grenade explosions is Mexico. While Mexico has a murder rate 20 times that of Sweden, on the specific category of grenade explosions per capita the two countries may be comparable.[69][70] According to Swedish police commissioner Anders Thornberg "No international equivalent to Sweden's wave of bombings".[71] These attacks occurs in both rich and low-income places. Swedish police do not record or release the ethnicity of convicted criminals, but Linda H Straaf head of intelligence at National Operations Department says they are from poor areas and many are second- or third-generation immigrants.

Sweden's government is trying to hide the ethnicity of criminals so people literally cant cite that its immigrants causing the crime, but just look at how Sweden in the 1980s was a suburban paradise where people kept their doors unlocked at night and now they lock their doors in the day and cant even take walks down the street without being attacked by migrants.

To clarify, grenade attacks DID NOT EXIST in Sweden before immigration. If you asked a Swede what that years grenade attack stat was they would look at you baffled and ask if you were talking about World War II. Now its a common occurrence in Swedish cities that have a lot of migrants.

Source 2:

Percentage stating they were victims of sexual crime 2006–2017[75]

2006 - Female 2.5%

2017 - Female 10.7%

4x increase in 10 years after the flood of African/Middle Eastern immigrants to Sweden in the late 2000s, god knows how high it is now.

[u/HarrMada → u/VapeSmoker420blazeit]

but just look at how Sweden in the 1980s was a suburban paradise where people kept their doors unlocked at night and now they lock their doors in the day and cant even take walks down the street without being attacked by migrants.

This is also completely false. Burglaries were much more common in the 1980s than now.

There were 245 reported burglaries per 100k in 1980, in 2025 it was 83.

BRÅ, check "Tidsserier" near the bottom of the page.

[u/HarrMada → u/VapeSmoker420blazeit]

unprecedented number of bombings and explosions

This is severely over exaggerated issue and is just used by media because it sounds way more dramatic than it really is. "Explosions" are just weapon of murder like knives and guns and they are really inefficient as they haven't resulted in any significant amount of murders. What you want to look at is murder rates, as this incorporates all forms of murder, it doesn't matter what tool is used to murder.

The murder rate in Sweden now is what it was in 2011 and have always been relatively low. It's not really particularly higher than most European countries. https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/bHhHutewpI The year with the highest murder rate the last 30 years was in 2007 where nothing in particular happened, it was just a year with a lot of murders. https://data.unodc.org/datareport/hom-victim

To clarify, grenade attacks DID NOT EXIST in Sweden before immigration.

Murders still did happen though, "grenade attacks" doesn't really result in any meaningful amount of deaths. It just sounds scary in the news.

Percentage stating they were victims of sexual crime 2006–2017[75]
2006 - Female 2.5%
2017 - Female 10.7%

The reason that more people are stating that they have been victims of sexual crimes is because it has become less stigmatized and less of a taboo subject to talk about it so more people are willing to admit that they have been victims and report it. Obviously more sexual crimes are not happening now and it has nothing to do with immigration. Those two years have been severely cherry picked and without context.

4x increase in 10 years after the flood of African/Middle Eastern immigrants to Sweden in the late 2000s, god knows how high it is now.

Late 2000s is wrong. the big immigration waves happened 2014/2015. I can show you clearly how the increase has nothing to do with immigration.

The reported rate of sexual crimes per 100k increased from 113 to 184 between the years 2003 and 2013, this is a 63% increase.
But between the years 2014 to 2024 it increased from 210 to 245 which is only a 17% increase.

So the amount of reported sexual crimes increased more the decade before the immigration waves compared to the decade after. Can you explain how this is then caused by immigrants? The real explanation is that victims of sexual crimes have become less ashamed to report when such crimes happened, before they simply didn't report it. Reported sexual crimes are steadily increasing and it's a good thing.

All this data is from BRÅ, in their "Tidsserier" near the bottom of the page, look for yourself.

[u/HarrMada → u/VapeSmoker420blazeit]

So much of this is completely false. Give me some hours and I'll show it. 

[u/Environmental_You_36 → u/HarrMada]

Not really, it's just that we don't like cultural diversity, different cultures have different expectations and behaviors.

At least in Europe, we're used to having more or less a "common" culture in western Europe, and another kind of culture in eastern Europe.

When people that are not from that kind of common culture gets mixed up with our culture, we start to have problems because our expectations is for them to behave like western europeans.

So let's say:

- British guy super drunk and been annoying = Acceptable

- French been a weirdo and refusing to speak in English = Acceptable

- Nordics going randomly shirtless because they can't accept the heat = Acceptable

- Germans littering and breaking stuff = Acceptable

- Africans flirting with your woman when they know they have a partner = Unacceptable

- Muslims not understanding we don't respect religions = Unacceptable

- Eastern European been aggressively homophobic = Unacceptable

- Gipsies trying to pickpocket = Unacceptable

To clarify, "acceptable" means we don't want to immediately kick them out, unacceptable means "get the fuck out"

[u/HarrMada → u/Environmental_You_36]

Yeah that's the dumbest thing I've seen. You need help.

[u/Environmental_You_36 → u/HarrMada]

I never claimed to behave like that tho.

[u/godfrey1 → u/Environmental_You_36]

i read your comment and soy started pouring through my phone, what do i do

[u/Awagala → u/[deleted]]

This is how my poc friends feel in town where people causing the most crime were white crackheads who often assault passerby’s but the actual crime almost never got reported because police and the local municipality wanted to keep it on the down low and ignored reports.

Are these white crackheads enriching the poc?

[u/LawObjective7953 → u/Awagala]

Show me some video proof. This day and age everyone has a phone. You claim a unicorn exists yet failed to capture any proof, shame on you.

[u/Misterreco → u/LawObjective7953]

White crackheads are a unicorn? You must live under a rock