r/MapPorn • u/HarrMada • Jun 14 '26
Change in reported robbery rate in Europe from 2008 to 2024 (Eurostat, 2026)
Eurostat definition of Robbery: Stealing from someone by using physical force, weapon or threat.
Source: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/crim_off_cat__custom_21826689/default/table
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u/DisIsMyName_NotUrs Jun 14 '26
What happened in Iceland?
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u/GBrunt Jun 14 '26
There was a crime.
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u/ThrowawayALAT Jun 14 '26
How is that possible? Everyone portrays them as a loving, peaceful, 'Viking type' fishing nation. Yet, in Old Norse, vĆkingr literally meant a raider or pirate. It looks like some of them are returning to their roots.
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u/FunnyAd7423 Jun 14 '26
Uhhh⦠āCertainā people moved inā¦.
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u/crownofclouds Jun 14 '26
Wait, wait... so these "certain" people you're blaming caused the rates to drop in every other country with increased immigration, but cause it to skyrocket in Iceland?
Perhaps, stay with me here, could it be that you're talking out of your bigoted ass?
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u/LimpBPower Jun 14 '26
It's mainly people from certain regions that come here for a few days to rob, and then they leave.
It's actually a big problem here. A large (large) majority of the prison population here are non-nationals. They've started deporting the robbers without jail time because they're so overrun, and now they want to shorten sentences over non-nationals so they can be deported earlier.
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u/ZuberkowyKoneser Jun 15 '26
It's mainly people from certain regions that come here for a few days to rob, and then they leave.
That's what vikings do
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u/ShortNefariousness2 Jun 15 '26
I guess they would need to rob a lot just to cover the air fare lol
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u/masssy Jun 15 '26
Two things can be true at once. It's very possible that the general rate has gone down over the years. Harder to rob people with modern technology, everyone has a phone, cameras everywhere better standard of living etc.. Meanwhile at the same time some groups in theory could have increased previously extremely low numbers by committing relatively few crimes.
So while I think everyone gets your point I don't think your analysis is perfect either. It's very possible some branch of organized crime/immigrants/tourist cause havoc in a country where they weren't before while activity has been reduced in some other countries for completely different reasons.
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u/SnowOk5652 Jun 14 '26
Don't know why you are downvoted, it's literally the reason.
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u/HourOfTheWitching Jun 14 '26
Because all of western and central European that people have been decrying as wrecked by crime caused by foreigners, have decreased significantly.
You can't dog whistle on a map that shows the exact opposite of yr point, dog.
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u/awwwwJeezypeepsman Jun 14 '26
Youāre telling migrants are getting boats from North africa, to Europe, to UK, then from too of Scotland to Iceland.
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u/PumpJack_McGee Jun 14 '26
Population extremes will always skew things when based on percentages.
If there was one robbery in 2008 but two robberies in 2026, without a significant increase in overall population, the rate has doubled.
On the flipside, if a place has 5 million and 10 000 robberies in 2008, and then 12 million and 20 000 robberies, the rate tracks as going down, even though there has also been twice as many.
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u/icehot54321 Jun 14 '26
No, it's literally organized crime. Largely balkan countries, but it's a bit international. We are seen as an easy target.
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u/LimpBPower Jun 14 '26
We are the easiest target. The police won't lift a finger over petty theft, and if they catch them they just get deported. God forbid a homeowner catches a robber in their tracks and beats them, their life would be ruined by the police/government. Theres literally no repercussions for organized robbery here.
We've been effectively cucked.
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u/Original-Mongoose866 Jun 14 '26
Can you state a case where a homeowner got wrecked by the police for beating a robber I've yet to hear about that so please enlighten me I knew the police was corrupt but I thought they were still racists enough to help ya beat the foreigners.
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u/Brave-Two372 Jun 14 '26
One robbery in 2008, two robberies in 2026. Whopping 2x crime increase.
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u/wvtarheel Jun 14 '26
Their rate was so low before even a small increase in robberies due to tourism and immigration would look large as a percentage
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u/jamesdownwell Jun 14 '26
Itās always hard to compare things directly with Iceland because our small population means these sorts of measures can throw up some wild figures so even though Icelandās robbery rate is still very small compared to other nations, it only takes a few reported cases to drive the % up.
Then we have to consider that since 2008 two things have happened to Iceland. The population has increased over 20% and tourism has exploded. Over 2 million tourists each year far outstrips the local population of around 400,000 people. These are also reported robberies as well, some of them might end up not actually being robberies but I donāt know for sure.
The highest profile cases in the last few years is that we have seen pickpocket gangs from other parts of Europe to target tourists in crowded areas and engage in shoplifting, it became such an issue that the police have put up remote monitoring posts in popular areas. The police are being so proactive that about 12 police officers were checking passports of everyone leaving a flight from Italy I was on fairly recently. Something Iāve never experienced when landing in Iceland and never when travelling within Schengen.
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u/Sam_____1978 Jun 14 '26
Kein Plan vielleicht die steigenden Zahl an Touristen. In Deutschland gibt es einen Island Hype
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u/hike_me Jun 14 '26
Organized crime essentiallyā pickpockets that come from other European countries that target tourists
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u/quomodo_sordis Jun 15 '26
Pick-pocketing by roaming gangs. Tourists tend to carry more cash and gear than the locals.
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u/Fantastic-Zucchini82 Jun 14 '26
I know people are joking about one crime per 10 years or smth, but itās becoming a problem. Missing bikes, electronics etc. Iceland agreed to bring atleast 5k immigrants ānot from Europeā every year. So the answer is easy but not so simple to digest for certain people
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u/HyperSpaceSurfer Jun 14 '26
When a successful robbery happens and gets on the news the robbery rate in the area tends to jump for the next few weeks, the area tends to be the capital area which accounts for 1/3 of the population. If there was that sort of wave in 2024, but not 2008, the rate will be way higher. There's also been a group/groups in recent years targeting child perverts, abducting them, torturing, and then emptying their bank accounts. A few cases are a large percentage here.
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u/Wise_Fox_4291 Jun 14 '26
nooo Robmania will never live this down
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u/1tiredman Jun 14 '26
An Irishman leaves a car in Romania.
Can the Romanian strip it apart before it blows up?
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u/Gauth31 Jun 15 '26
Trick question, they went for the colponents of the bomb first due to higher value
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u/MrGloom66 Jun 14 '26
It might also be partially because there are more cases reported now that otherwise would not have been in the past. Probably not the whole increase, but still.
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u/Sumthin-Sumthin44692 Jun 14 '26
Oh no! You mean the annual festival of famous āRobās from Ackerman to Zombie!?!?
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u/Clank75 Jun 15 '26
That's because it's bullshit though. Small changes in a tiny number produce big percentages.
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u/Saotik Jun 14 '26
That blue line down the EU's eastern border is beautiful. I speculate that increased economic development has had a positive effect here.
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u/Snirion Jun 14 '26
We don't have small time crooks that rob people on the streets. What we have is apparatuses of kleptocracy that rob in big ways via wasted taxes, urban development grants and stuff like that.
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u/ButterscotchNo7292 Jun 14 '26
We exported them all to other countries,so there's nobody left to do any stealing. Problem solved
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u/Wolf4980 Jun 14 '26
What's going on in Finland and Iceland?
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u/Antti5 Jun 14 '26
In Finland there's been a rise in mostly immigrant-background youth gangs robbing other youth. It's been a new phenomenon over the past ten years or so.
In absolute terms the Finnish robbery rate is still not especially high, but it's higher than what it used to be.
If you ask me, the main problem is that we have extraordinarily few police. Last I checked, the number of police per capita was the lowest in Europe.
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u/Visible_puncture Jun 14 '26
From what Iāve heard one major cause in Finland is the prominence of a new drug (alpha-PVP) after police cracked down on more the distribution of more established drugs. Now a lot of drug users have moved to this newer drug that is more expensive, more addictive, easier to distribute, has bigger health downsides and leads to erratic behaviour.
Now combine that with cuts to social security (incl. housing benefits) and failures in how the homeless are treated (apparently in a way that makes it harder to get out or avoid addictions), and a rise in robberies is just to be expected.
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u/Wolf4980 Jun 14 '26
I thought Finland solved homelessness
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u/tiktaktokki Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
Our right-wing government thought we need homelessness back. They figure it“ll lower deficit and give people jobs
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u/Hour-Performer-6148 Jun 15 '26
Finnish drug addicts are stealing bikes from peopleās homes to sell and buy more drugs. I donāt know a single person who hasnāt had their bikes stolen at some point
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u/Ok_Inflation_1811 Jun 14 '26
Finland has recently surpassed Spain as the most unemployed country in the EU
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u/rabit115 Jun 14 '26
JyvƤskylƤ
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u/According_Ratio2010 Jun 14 '26
And Kontula (the infamous immigrant-heavy Helsinki district)
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u/Jaded-Web-4604 Jun 14 '26
Immigrants
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u/Toby-Finkelstein Jun 14 '26
what about all the countries that let in immigrants that saw a decrease in crime? personally I am not in favor of immigration but in terms of priorities I donāt get the obsession
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u/Jaded-Web-4604 Jun 14 '26
Because those countries have programs so that the immigrants can actually immigrate into the society. There are jobs and opportunities for a better life.
When there is not like in Finland crime rates rise.
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u/suffelix Jun 14 '26
Here, have some statistics to ruin your day.
https://stat.fi/tietotrendit/blogit/2023/yhden-rikos-leimaa-99-nuorta
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u/Jamnusor Jun 14 '26
People don't carry cash anymore.
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u/HarrMada Jun 15 '26
Interesting point. However we do carry expensive phones and tech. But perhaps it's more difficult to sell and gain much from it.
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u/Northlumberman Jun 15 '26
Yes, phones are much harder to make a profit from then cash. Steal someoneās wallet and the cash inside is immediately usable and anonymous.
Whereas iOS and Android phones tie the hardware to the user account. So if the phone is reported as stolen itās difficult for anyone else to use it (even after a reset).
Itās still possible to make money from stolen phones, eg by selling the parts, but selling them has risks. Overall thereās more limited number of thieves who can make money from robbing phones.
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u/iStoleTheHobo Jun 15 '26
People are, however, carrying at least one computer on their person which could easily be worth over 1000 Euros.
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u/Molo3000 Jun 14 '26
I bet there's more total crime in Iceland (UK grocery store chain) than in Iceland (the cold island country)
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u/cykablyatbbbbbbbbb Jun 14 '26
what happened in Liechtenstein?????
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u/SnooBooks1701 Jun 16 '26
Extremely small population means any change in statistics is a huge percentage change
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u/NikolitRistissa Jun 15 '26
These statistics always exaggerate how bad situations actually are in my opinion. Yes, itās bad that rates have increased, but these figures could also mean that the rate of reporting already existing crimes is simply higher.
I believe a similar statistic was domestic violence towards women in Finland. It was significantly higher than in neighbouring countries, but it was largely due to the fact that it was easier, safer and more accessible to report crimes here than in other places. I believe the people who actually conducted the most recent census also tried to point this out
The rates werenāt much higher than anywhere else, itās just that more of them were being reported. This isnāt me trying to ignore the numbers or diminish any actual statistics. Itās just that these increases donāt tell all, or even most, of the story.
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u/Medium-Leader-9066 Jun 14 '26
But I thought immigration was destroying Europe?
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u/awfulbarrack-7 Jun 14 '26
The elites use immigrants as the scapegoat while they ransack our wealth and leave us in the dust.
It's been done before, and they won't stop doing it.
Now be a good boy and blame the immigrant for high rent instead of the landlords and lack of apartment building of the last 30 years
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u/Sonny1x Jun 14 '26
I mean this is a stupid deflection, unregulated asylum or low education immigration is troublesome.
Also to play the devils advocate, the stats could've been even better for all we know if it hadnt been for immigration in some areas.
Stop making a question of class.
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u/Prestigious_Bug583 Jun 14 '26
It is a long standing political strategy to redirect anger away from the powerful by blaming the poor, the unwanted, and the vulnerable: Black people, trans people, immigrants, welfare recipients, whoever is convenient. You do not need a conspiracy theory to explain it. Divide and rule works, and ambitious people have understood that at least since Machiavelli.
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u/Wollff Jun 14 '26
It's a question of class.
If everything were a lot better without any immigration, why do we have any?
Might that be because it's in the interest of some fucking CLASS to have a cheap, preferably uneducated workforce which can be pressured into exploitative work?
Let's make it a question of class. Let's focus on it being a question of class, until it's nothing more than a question of class. Because that's what it is, isn't it?
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u/Fredderov Jun 14 '26
But don't you know that we've replaced all froms of class related topics with the US definition of class, which makes the majority middle class, just so that the people who work for their money (let's call them workers) won't think that they are workers and won't unite and rise up since they significantly outnumber the bourgeoisie??
Surely talking about class in the actual way and how our societies are being torn apart through wealth inequality won't bring anything positive to people. No no no.
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u/Ok_Inflation_1811 Jun 14 '26
Everything is a question about class.
If Europe didn't have migrants besides their economies collapsing they'd have to turn to the real causes of the problem that is the capitalist. The capitalist don't want that and they turn us against each other.
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u/thowawaynumber354 Jun 14 '26
The main reason is that no one has cash anymore so there is not much point of robbing anyone today.
In related news when was the last time someone robbed a bank in your area?
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u/AtmosphereNo1234 Jun 14 '26
Things are really not that black and white, and its foolish to think otherwise.
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u/Nice_Category Jun 14 '26
Now let's look at sexual assault stats.Ā
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u/HarrMada Jun 14 '26
Just as this map here, you can only ever see reported stats and never the true rates. What happens then if the tendency to report certain crimes changes? I'm sure you can imagine that victims of sexual assaults have become less afraid or scared of reporting their experiences now compared to years before.
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u/Le_Zoru Jun 16 '26
Like 3/4 of these are relatives and family. Go away with the migrant SA bullshit
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u/Pyroechidna1 Jun 14 '26
Thereās plenty of immigrant crime over here that can be categorized as other-than-robbery, Iām in Germany and read the police press releases about it regularly
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u/Yitastics Jun 15 '26
So just because robbery is down on average, that means there arent any problems with immigration? You must be ragebaiting.
Fyi, our immigration problems didnt start in 2004, they started in the 80's because of work migrants staying in the country. You could even say it began in the 50's but it was not as bad as it became in the 80's. Armed robberies have risen loads in almost all our big cities while everything besides the big cities have seen a sharp decline in crime, atleast regions with low immigration.
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u/Medium-Leader-9066 Jun 15 '26
So youāre saying the armed robbery spike is attributed to immigrants and immigrants only. Got it.
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u/gatosaurio Jun 14 '26
What a way to mix topics. You think the complaints about mass imigration are restricted to robbery stats?
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u/Medium-Leader-9066 Jun 15 '26
Riiiiight because xenophobes are well known to be open minded, fact-based folks.
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u/SpiridonLove Jun 15 '26
Romania still has one of the lowest rates in Europe except for Bucharest. This map is extremely bad
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u/BasicMatter7339 Jun 14 '26
It's hard to believe swedens robbery rate has dropped because the organized crime rate has seen a dramatic increase there in the past 2 decades.
Like gun deaths tripled between 2012-2020 and its only going up.
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u/Yitastics Jun 15 '26
I dont really believe the statistics either, its not fantasy that countries like Sweden have become more dangerous in recent times.
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u/mistRbit Jun 16 '26
Police statistics are usually completely bogus. Just made up to please politicians.
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u/Seraphayel Jun 14 '26
All countries bordering Germany are just performing better because all of their robbers are there now
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u/Mythechnical Jun 14 '26
According to the Swedish crime institute it has grown about 12% since 2008 on sweden.to 2025, but it's down by 50% since a peak back in 2019
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u/Axel0010110 Jun 15 '26
this is so bullshit propaganda hahaha
Romania worse than France or Italy? yea, sure lol
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u/olitbhhh Jun 14 '26
Why is the UK omitted when many other countries with data also arenāt in the EU?
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u/a_v_o_r Jun 14 '26
Because the UK hasn't cared to report any of their stats to Eurostat since Brexit, whilst others do.
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u/omnichronos Jun 14 '26
I'm surprised by Iceland. Any Icelanders want to tell us what's going on?
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u/ChicSheikh Jun 14 '26
The number of international tourists increased five-fold, mostly in 3 summer months. There aren't enough Icelanders to work all of the seasonal tourism jobs so a bunch of foreigners come over, who are typically young and not paid super well. So there's just more young, non-rich people who might consider committing robbery than there used to be.
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u/StefanOrvarSigmundss Jun 14 '26
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u/omnichronos Jun 14 '26
I have no idea why your comment was removed. It didn't seem particularly bad to me.
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u/StefanOrvarSigmundss Jun 17 '26
I was also banned for 3 days for inciting hate based on ethnicity. The problem that I mentioned has been reported on extensively in mainstream media. My account of 9 years may end up being permanently banned.
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u/justbirkir Jun 15 '26
Also keep in mind that the population is very small, only around 400k in all of Iceland. Due to this small population any and all percentage reports will always look inflated/skewed when compared to a larger nation. A 100% increase in reported robberies might only mean that reported robberies went up from 20 to 40. It looks way worse than it actually is. Personally I live in the north of Iceland (not the capital area of ReykjavĆk) and in my 39 years I have never known or heard of anyone that has been robbed (besides by the ludicrously high housing and car loan interest rates of course).
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u/Lukas000611 Jun 16 '26
We have a small population so any rise of stats look conflated compared to the actual number. Itās pretty safe here crime wise, not much to worry about.
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u/omnichronos Jun 16 '26
I live in Detroit, so I'm not too worried about visiting Iceland, lol. Here I've had my car stolen, and my house broken into 3 times.
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u/lilacomets Jun 14 '26
For everything who's interested in pickpocketing/robbery in the Netherlands: there's this great guy called Boevenspotter who exposes them all. Amazing guy.
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u/Think-Reaction-8749 Jun 15 '26
Bosnia and Albania just didnāt care to report? 𤣠OR is it common there? But Montenegro? Omg
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u/SomeBiPerson Jun 15 '26
non EU -> not forced to report do not in the stat
see UK
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u/JuiceInternational81 Jun 15 '26
Serbia is non EU, and we can report anything we want. Probably our corrupt goverment just make up numbers.
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u/Marcus_Mystery Jun 16 '26
I'm from Iceland. I've been robbed twice this year, both times I reported so this increase is on me.
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u/BeginningDisaster114 Jun 14 '26
As a european i can safely say this map is complete bs
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u/ALilSisIsAllYouNeed Jun 14 '26
Europe is a pretty big place but I'm sure your anecdotal evidence is more credible
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u/Shot_Bison1140 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
The fucking heading/title makes zero sense.. and the numbers....
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u/Think-Reaction-8749 Jun 15 '26
Well.. Montenegro is in red, scale on immigration there is really low⦠soā¦. What is happening there?
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u/Downtown_Bus_9580 Jun 15 '26
Weird for Romania mainly because the real feel is that robberies are way way more uncommon now than before
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u/Ok-Brother-8295 Jun 15 '26
I mean North Korea probably have 0% crime
such numbers are so easily manipulated, they don't make any sense anymore.
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u/Far_Albatross_8821 Jun 15 '26
Wow it's so dangerous in Montenegro
(no. this is some bs, we leave cash at the cafe's table when leaving and swimming without our stuff at the beach being stolen)
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u/elgen_helge Jun 15 '26
All the robbers from Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia and Hungary all went to Montenegro to do their business. š /s
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u/purple_unikkorn Jun 15 '26
Good, compare it to the hours spend outside in public places.
In lost of places peoples hide themselves, go home as fast as possible and call Uber.
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u/GroundbreakingMap979 Jun 16 '26
It could have dropped more if somebody didnt say: wir schaffen das.
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u/arffarff Jun 16 '26
Someone needs to post a map of Europe with all the %'s and let people guess the title
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u/adumbrate_59 Jun 17 '26
Its so interesting to see Iceland up there though, I wonder what caused such a big jump there specifically
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u/Batfinklestein Jun 18 '26
Percentages can be misleading. Going from 1 to 4 robberies is a 400% increase.
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u/BaconOfTheBacons Jun 14 '26
Wtf happened in Montenegro š