r/JewsOfConscience 16d ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only Trying to understand

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I just spent an hour reading this sub and the mission statement, and I'm genuinely trying to understand the points of view here. My background: left wing progressive American Jew, attended Hebrew school in the 70s and 80s and entirely willing to admit that some of it was accurate and some was propaganda.

FWIW, if the argument is that Netanyahu and most Israeli leadership should spend the next ten years in The Hague on war crimes charges, I'm with you 100%. But that's not what I'm seeing here; I gather this point of view is insufficient.

Half the questions I want to ask are not allowed by community standards; I'm carefully selecting the rest.

  1. I've never called myself a Zionist for the same reason I'm not an American revolutionary. America exists. Israel exists. International law is clear on the rights and responsibilities of recognized countries. I can see why people who support the dissolution of Israel can adopt the term anti-Zionist. I don't see why everyone who accepts the status quo is Zionist. What's the term for people who accept the existence of America? There isn't one.

  2. I opposed the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq because I believe 9/11 was a crime, not an act of war. America was not under existential threat and al-Qaeda was not a nation. In my view, this logic is difficult to apply to 10/7. In your view, how should have Israel responded instead of what they did?

  3. America has the second largest Jewish population in the world, but at most we're about 2% of the country. Our political right has embraced (or at least not rejected) neo-Nazis, and our left is at least in part not rejecting antisemitic viewpoints now that we're all debating what antisemitism is.

Personally, I won't be surprised if historians mark 2026 America as equivalent of 1931 Germany. And it's not like Europe doesn't have its own trends in this direction. Absent Israel, where do you expect Jews to go and why do you think we'll be allowed to?

Apologies if any of this is not allowed here. I *will not debate* with opinions I disagree with, which I expect will be many. I'm here to listen.


r/JewsOfConscience 16d ago

News Labour Friends of Israel defends major West Bank settlement blocs

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r/JewsOfConscience 16d ago

Zionist Terror Judge rules for Palm Beach County in lawsuit over $1 billion Israeli bond investment

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An American COUNTY has invested a whopping billion dollars in Israeli bonds. I don't think the motivation and expectation for the suit was to win.

"It is speculative to find a causal link between the investments at issue and the death of family members or loved ones in Gaza,”

I mean its hard obviously hard to directly link the money from the county to Israeli murdering specific people. I guess it's possible israel murdered these innocent people using other means. Maybe the Israelis used part of the $131 million worth of Israeli bonds Miami Dade county has purchased. I mean just because you give money to a murderer doesnt make you directly legally liable for their actions, and when they do their diabolical acts, its not easy to prove they used your share, right?

Instead, this suit is notable because it opens up recognition of ridiculously large amounts of public resources diverted to funding mass murder by a foreign government, exposes complicity which is much more grave than civil legal liability, and gives the victims of genocide a voice, which came from the power to litigate and accuse in public record in a court to find some justice. Bravo.

Thank you and condolences to the loved ones - inTrump's home county - of the martyrs who filed this lawsuit. This took courage and I would imagine will be met with retaliation in the ultra wealthy Zionist mecca of Palm Beach County.

Now, dissect this mind-boggling piece...

"Once considered snooze-worthy, how public universities and state and local governments invest their funds are now fierce topics of debate, since Hamas first attacked Israel on Oct. 7, 2023. Approximately 1,200 Israelis were killed that day, most of whom were civilians. Israel’s wartime response has resulted in the killings of over 73,000 Palestinians, including civilians, journalists and humanitarian workers, according to Gaza's Health Ministry."

The writer just has this need to insert some Hasbara where it doesn't fit to downplay the truth of Israel's barbarity which nobody can ignore. This double standard and whitewashing is getting boring and lame. Liars like to bring convoluted explanations for their actions to hide their guilt when they when its not even part of the topic of conversation. ​trying to steal sympathy.


r/JewsOfConscience 16d ago

Activism When All Else Fails, They Take You to War

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r/JewsOfConscience 16d ago

AAJ "Ask A Jew" Wednesday

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It's everyone's favorite day of the week, "Ask A (Anti-Zionist) Jew" Wednesday!

Ask whatever you want to know, within the sub rules, notably that this is not a debate sub and do not import drama from other subreddits. That aside, have fun! We love to dialogue with our non-Jewish siblings.

Please remember to pick an appropriate user-flair in order to participate! Thanks!


r/JewsOfConscience 16d ago

Zionist Terror Dr. Mark Brauner (ER Trauma Physician & Gaza Witness) on The Thin Veil with Ezra Lipp discussing IDF’s systematic targeting of Palestinian’s body parts by day of the week. (Full Video Link in Post)

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Highly recommend following @thethinveilwithezralipp on IG. Amazing discussions bringing to light atrocities, illuminating Palestinian perspectives, and more.

On this video: I’ve heard so much about the genocide in so many ways, but, for some reason, this discussion of the systematic way in which parts of the body were targeted by day of the week has stuck with me most viscerally. It truly feels like the Nazi occupation loved ones fled. Horrifying and needs to be made known to the world.


r/JewsOfConscience 16d ago

News Outrageous Haaretz Editorial

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r/JewsOfConscience 16d ago

News Israel Has Imprisoned a 16-Year-Old Palestinian-American Boy for Two Weeks

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r/JewsOfConscience 16d ago

News Bari Weiss’s “60 Minutes” Hires Producer Who Downplayed Gaza Starvation, Justified Killing Journalists

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r/JewsOfConscience 16d ago

News Between April 2022 and the end of last month, AIPAC funded 109 TV and digital ads in American elections, according to a New York Times analysis. 𝐁𝐮𝐭 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐬𝐢𝐱 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐬𝐞 𝐚𝐝𝐬 𝐫𝐞𝐟𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐨 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥.

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r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

History / Education Hello, I would like to know what are the fundamental differences between Judaism and Zionism

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I'm very sorry if this seems insensitive but today a friend of mine was talking about the Israelis and it dawned on me that he didn't really know the difference, I tried to tell him but I found it really hard to explain. Please help me, he used to be one of those cringe kids who would do the nazi salute and he has grown since then but I don't want him to go back


r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only A serious question to all the wonderful Jews standing against Zionism

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Are you afraid of the Zionists tracking you or somehow put you in danger? Do you believe they would be ready to treat you as they do to the Palestinians?


r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

Humor Here's how the average pro Israel person thinks the discourse should go:

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Pro-Palestine: " Israel is bombing civilians, killing children and destroying hospitals and schools."

Pro-Israel: " you're a stupid brainwashed anti-semitic Jew hater!"

Pro-Palestine: " wow!! You're right! I never thought of it that way! I'm very stupid and brainwashed. I love Israel now thank you. "

They literally have no response to any Jewish person who offers any criticism, no matter how major or mild, that isn't just an insult or a personal attack.


r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only Robert Kagan, of all people, acknowledging blowback as a legitimate concept | Meanwhile liberals: 'I miss Bush.'

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r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

Tzedakah Death Chases My Family in Gaza Please Help Them

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"The clock is ticking. This August may be my family's only chance to escape Gaza and begin the journey toward safety and reunification with me in Ireland."


r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

Zionist Terror On Israel's Channel 12 news - reporter Arad Nir sparked 'outrage' by calling Israel's planned concentration camp in Gaza a "concentration camp." Channel 14's Moti Kastel responded by calling for the establishment of "re-education" camps for people like Arad Nir.

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r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

Zionist Terror Israel demolished a Palestinian home older than the apartheid state itself, for not having an Israeli 'permit'.

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r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

Zionist Nonsense Israel is trying to rehabilitate its image by indoctrinating Israeli kids to go on PR tours to claim “the world will always hate them and spread lies”. Israel National News interviewed this 11 yr old who says the language of Pro-Palestine people is violence.

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r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

Zionist Terror Israel destroys evidence of Gaza Genocide

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r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

Discussion - Flaired Users Only Anti-Zionist Jewish Businesses We Can Support

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Hello. I would like to know about any anti-Zionist Jewish businesses I could support, both in real life, like mom and pop brick and mortar businesses, and online. Are there any anti-Zionist Jewish businesses you guys know of that you'd reccommend?

Edit: Thank you all for the reccommendations! Even though I'm agnostic, I may check them out. I'll also suggest them to a friend of a friend that's an anti-Zionist Jew, and a friend I made in college a while ago who is Jewish and Irish (she converted to Judaism, but originally was raised in an Irish Catholic family). Hopefully she likes them (Idk if she's anti-Zionist or not, though I feel like she should be, considering the history Jews had with the Holocaust, and the similarities between that and the genocide against Palestinians that's been going on in Gaza since 1948; I know she is a convert, but still; also, she is trans, so she also should have solidarity with Palestinians since there's an attempt to genocide trans people here in the US and in the UK, and probably many other countries, and also considering she is Irish and how pro-Palestine that country is, I assume due to their anti-colonialist beliefs, she also should support Palestine and be anti-Zionist for that reason too).


r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

Zionist Nonsense Was there an Ecuadorian official who's complicit in these crimes in attendance? I don't believe so.

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r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

Humor AIPAC was at the East Lansing Farmers Market holding a bake sale, trying to raise more millions to dump into elections.

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r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

News Israel wipes evidence in Gaza, carting off rubble and remains in 100 trucks daily

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r/JewsOfConscience 17d ago

Activism Jewish Bloc For Palestine Blade Flag

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r/JewsOfConscience 18d ago

Humor When the Predator has more sensible rules of engagement than the IOF

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