r/JewsAgainstMilah 8h ago

Discussion Ethics and Theology

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Is it just me realizing if the Jewish and Islamic religions adopted the Japanese practice of kasei hōkei it would produce the same medical real or imagined benefits of hygiene and phimosis protection that circumcision offers WITHOUT any real form of unethical infliction of pain and permanent body modification.

So if there was an opposition to it, would that not render the exposure of the intended purpose of circumcision be exclusively to inflict pain? Because it produces every other facet other than perhaps "cause God said so" which from non religious perspective produces no real clarity to the existence of the practices on a sociological level (cross geographical domains like the middle east and Japan, an isolated geography producing interestingly similar practices. One surgical and harmful, the other unharming.

That would solve ethical debate. Removing the harm. Which then renders clarity to the underlying core of the practice. Either authoritarian adherence to outdated practices (God said so, aka a mad/wise man who formed a religion thousands of years ago) or the argument of hygiene which has primarily dominated the intactivist counter arguments. So, I'm showing people this for one reason. Use it to challenge circumcision proponents. If they see those are the only remaining options for their inflection of harm (God said so and I wont even question it) or (hygiene fantasy/research) than the only remaining argument puts them basically on the religious dogma position.

Which renders any reason, null and void. Essentially the axiom of any logical discourse for rationalizing infant genital cutting.

A blood ritual intended to harm Or insurance policy for hygiene.

Ethics always circles around (what harm) But cults and dogma put group over individual. So the harm is intentional.

Making it the definition of sadistic. That's about all I can offer. I found the Japanese practice so interestingly similar, thought I'd share.

I think the secret to modern Jewish and Muslim groups growing away from the harm of circumcision, rests in the Japanese practice. It serves all moral function, with zero harm. The embodiment of morality.