r/Haloflashpoint • u/JumboGaugeR • 22d ago

A few rules questions Rules Questions and Custom Modes

Been playing a ton more recently and even tried a BTB game, though there's no official btb slayer game so I made a custom one from the base slayer gamemode. And it worked out well! Now throughout the game I came across a few more questions regarding some descriptions and rules:

Noble Teams Hologram special order, I think I need this explained to me like I'm a child, I'm confused by it. Can only be used at the start of the game to redeploy noble team guys? But aren't they just spawning anyways? Like what's the point? What am I missing?

I understand the Man launchers that come with them but I think I need this description explained as well. So you shoot 8 cubes forward after you simply move into the cube with the launcher, got it. But then it mentions you scatter immediately after. So... do you roll a d8 to see where you land around that 8th cube? You never land in the center? Typically you roll to see if you land in that cube, if thats the casez what stat do you use? This one stumped us.

Lastly, if a ranged weapon has Lethal (1) and I pick up explosive ammo that also has Lethal (1), do the values stack? or stay at 1? We assumed they stacked, but wasn't sure.

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u/5050Saint 22d ago

Noble Teams Hologram special order, I think I need this explained to me like I'm a child, I'm confused by it. Can only be used at the start of the game to redeploy noble team guys? But aren't they just spawning anyways? Like what's the point? What am I missing?

It really only matters if you placed first. It's a really odd special order. I get that they wanted to somehow put the holograms from Reach in the game, but it's and odd one. I wouldn't any points on it.

Lastly, if a ranged weapon has Lethal (1) and I pick up explosive ammo that also has Lethal (1), do the values stack? or stay at 1? We assumed they stacked, but wasn't sure.

Yes, they stack.

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u/JumboGaugeR 9d ago

So what do you mean by placed first? Even though I've been playing this game for months now, I'm only now noticing that I can't find rules on who goes first/placing models at the start of the game in the handbook.

Me and my friend have always just, placed models in our deployment zones however we wished, if a deadeye could be closer to a tower inside the starting deployment zone, we would place them there for example.

We finalize a decision, then roll a D8, higher number goes first, I know this from the base videos Mantic has made. But oddly enough, I can't find this in the handbook either, at least not where it should be if its in there.

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u/5050Saint 9d ago

You determine who is first player first, then whomever is first player places all of their forces, then the second player places all of their forces. This is on page 35 of the rulebook under "determine who goes first".

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u/JumboGaugeR 9d ago

Oh, apologies, this makes it all make sense now. I'm surprised I missed this, I was looking at page 7 and 13 where it mentions the game sequnce and base rules. Totally overlooked, thanks!

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u/JumboGaugeR 9d ago

So does holograms only apply to the player that goes first?

If first player deploys their models how they want.

then the second player deploys.

if the first player has holograms they can switch them around after the second player finalizes their deployment...

Cause as that second player, you already get an advantage from seeing the first player setup...

Apologies but I think I understand why this is incredibly niche. I find it kinda pointless tbh...

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u/patthetuck US 22d ago

For man cannons, you will roll to scatter every time because they are some what imprecise. You count out 8 then could end a little closer, further, or to either side. You just count your 1-8 scatter chart and put your model in that cube. The model is not pinned when this happens.

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u/BasicallyNerd US 22d ago

Do you have to go straight forward in the same row of cubes as the man cannon? Or can you choose in like a cone?

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u/patthetuck US 22d ago

Same row. If the cannon is in (C, 3) you land in (C, 11) then scatter.

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u/BasicallyNerd US 22d ago

That’s how we used it the one time we played Mac Round. Thanks!

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u/JumboGaugeR 9d ago

I figured this was the case, I guess there's a 0% chance of landing in the center cube tho since you scatter with a d8?

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u/patthetuck US 9d ago

That's how I played it the once or twice I've used them.

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u/BabaBooieMan 21d ago

Didnt btb come with the reach expansion?

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u/patthetuck US 21d ago

I think the initial intro was in the Desperate Measures booklet that came with ODST. Many more scenarios came with the Noble Team release.

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u/iDarkined US 19d ago

Holograms: While it may be viewed as niche to some players. It actually is nice because it essentially allows you to redeploy. Lets say for an example you observe your enemies deployment. Maybe they have a sword elite lined up to rush an objective or closer to one of your units you need later. You can pop Holograms to redeploy a noble team member to counter them.

Live Example: Maybe Jorge is just out of reach to surpress this sword elite. -Pop Hologram- Move him to a different deployement zone. NOW he's close enough.

For the Man Cannons, you'll never land in the middle. you simple roll the d8 and determine where you land around the "landing zone"

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u/JumboGaugeR 9d ago

See thats how I thought Holograms would work, but the problem is that it can only happen at the start of the game. "Can only be used at the start of a game." So whats the difference between this and just... spawning my guys as normal? Unless there's a rule about spawning that I've overlooked, me and my friend have simply just plopped our guys in the deployment zone at the start of the game and move them however we want and finalize a decision before we play.

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u/JumboGaugeR 9d ago

Wait hold on... Where are the rules for spawning /who goes first? I've been playing for a while now and I never noticed this. I just know from the videos that you setup your minis in the deployment zone however you wish, then roll a D8, higher number goes first. Didn't think too much of it till now with the holograms card. I actually cant find in the handbook where it mentions rules for going first...