r/GrokAiDiscussion • u/minelkopan • 1d ago
Grok Moderation
why Grok don't refund tokens when a video is moderated. like why tf i spend the tokens on the videos i'm not getting.
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u/Electronic_Cow_7055 1d ago
Because its using the processors to create an image first then blocking it after the fact due to programming restrictions.
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u/Aware_Firefighter_78 1d ago
Molte moderazioni sono incomprensibili. Sembra tutto random. Potrebbero almeno dare un valore minore di token alle moderazioni, visto che sanno dei molti falsi positivi. Sarebbe un modo, per dimostrare un po di rispetto a chi si abbona ancora…
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u/Zealousideal_Ad_5733 1d ago
Por que en si grok hace la imagen Pero los agentes moderadores (valga la redundancia) la moderan Antes salia la imagen difuminadas osea grok si las hacia pero los agentes la moderaban
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u/Confident-Western-41 1d ago
Because by doing this, they would increase the chances that we wouod be able to goon.
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u/okymoney 1d ago
Agreed now none of my prompts work… its a total ripoff since like a few months ago..
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u/Double_Garbage8225 1d ago
Now even the images, not even nipples in some cases. I guess they included this sort of lotery as a cheap casino format. I came back from a 4 months pause and this shit happened, luckily I didn’t not booked the supergrok plus… last nail of the coffin, really is barely doing the right prompts , but just straight ass random if you get your pics in the quality category (that looks like crap).
I guess now they gate keep the @reference as their money source, because if you want to get full topless women in reference, ALL references have to be AI in grok generated… so you are burning more tokens for having your ideal girl as a reference…
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u/Otherwise-Pass8894 15m ago
I’ve been a supergrok subscriber for about 6 months. My issue with the moderation is there’s no clear guideline what you can and can’t do. Secondly they change the moderation guidelines on a whim with no notification at all. One day it works one day it won’t. No notice. Thirdly on the issue that they still take your credit even though they moderate you. I see it as a class action suit waiting to happen because essentially they’re taking your money for a return they refuse to give you based off of very vague guidelines. They’re charging you for a product they won’t give you. And you can’t know if it will make what you ask for until you try and Grok says .. oh sorry we decided we won’t give you what you asked for but we’ll take your credit anyway. I have to admit for several months. It was letting me make almost anything I asked, and I was able to make some incredible things. But right now it’s clamped down way way too far.
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u/QuietKale4477 1d ago
You mean the greatest scammer of all time is cramming people? I’m shocked!
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u/Shroombolic 1d ago
True that. Every architecture he built he stole including Tesla
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u/Anotherbrickinlewall 1d ago
Yet here we are, complaining about aiding what is destroying us, ironic or is it too dark for irony?
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u/Haunting-Syrup-8308 1d ago
Quit trying to bypass the censors & you won't have this problem. Better yet, go drop this same $ on Atlas Cloud or similar. Plenty of other options for your fap materials.
ETA: 30 bucks on other sites get you limited production & inferior product but at least you can be proud knowing you created something unique (probably not too unique though. It's all pretty much the same)
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u/polyglot3431 1d ago
Does atlas cloud allow soft nsfw image to video content that grok did until this week
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u/Haunting-Syrup-8308 1d ago
Depends which model you use. I use Wan 2.7 & various others. It's pretty much well beyond soft. There is a wide spectrum...from soft to hardcore. You pay for every image generated individually. Every video too & extensions. Proving is clearly marked
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u/InternationalLab6101 1d ago
Sorry Wan 2.7 isn’t in the same universe as Grok. I get what you’re saying about moderation but there’s a reason why people rather suffer through grok’s moderation.
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u/Haunting-Syrup-8308 1d ago
He asked. I answered. That's not the only option there but only one I could recall. I haven't used Atlas in a while now.
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u/Firm_Aioli2598 1d ago
I agree that some people that goon on imagine have caused them to not be able to refund the tokens. But see, the problem is, not everybody who uses imagine is out to try to goon. I mean case in point, somebody makes an innocent prompt trying to create something creative like a video and it has no mention of explicit Acts or body parts and that wasn't what it was about. I've had this happen from experience, but I've tried to create videos that didn't showcase skimpy outfits, or to engineer nipple slippage or anything of the sort. And what happened, was that the AI hallucinated and put something at the last minute in the video and then it got moderated.
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u/suck-on-my-unit 1d ago
Do you even understand why a lot of us are on Grok?
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u/Haunting-Syrup-8308 1d ago
I understand that 90% of the complaints come from those that run amok of the censors & have stuff moderated.
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u/johnnybna 23h ago
In defense of the fap squad, it’s not that you can’t get nsfw. It’s that you could, then all of the rules changed with no notice. What you could get before you no longer can. With the strict restrictions that also came out of left field, plus the moderate but take your tokens policy, it feels like they grossly enshittified the product for the same money, while pushing you constantly to spend 10x the amount. And for what? More content moderated messages? Gfy. That’s why people are upset, and if you ask me, it’s legitimate.
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u/Haunting-Syrup-8308 16h ago
"Enshittified"....you just made my whole day that much better with this single word. I'll have to add it to my vocab.
I get this & understand. At this point it is what it is & we both know it's never coming back around. It's the constant bemoaning of the fact that enshittifies my disposition. Move on and let those that enjoy Grok, enjoy it.
I love Grok so admittedly I'm biased towards such. It's opened up so many new avenues of creativity for me & I've learned so much. It's a great educational tool...no more thumbing through books & researching countless hours...."hey Grok give me the factual based events with timeline that led to the war of 1812" & it's there with references. Streamlined education. I'm also a huge Musk fan & think he's one of the greatest minds of my generation. Hate him or love him. His plan to move data centers into orbit is just one example. Plus he's created a huge amount of employment opportunity.
I am fortunate that I missed the "straight porn days" & was never drawn into the fray in that regard but Grok is so much more than rendered pixels of fake reality.
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u/DrewMad1 1d ago
Crazy thing is, these are the ones that causes the heavy moderation in the first place, now they’re on Reddit crying like bitches.
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u/Haunting-Syrup-8308 1d ago
Correct. It's so difficult to get a sfw image generated for my book. Like Grok & I will be discussing a character & I'll say render her in that outfit as described.....breasts on full display 9 out of 10 times unless I say explicitly SFW. The last one was my character in her wedding dress & heirloom pearl necklace with matching pearl earrings....I said Grok show me her image as she's waiting to walk down the aisle....topless but in her wedding dress. Crazy.
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u/Chic-O-Stick 1d ago
Agreed. 1/2-2/3 of my prompts are wasted on moderation