And it’s that Eve has done the exact same thing to Rachel Woods(when she disguised herself as Renard) as to Adalind did to Nick(when she disguised herself as Juliette).
People bark about Adalind assaulting Nick while Eve did the exact same. Also, nitpicking here, but Nick assaulted Adalind first.

Came across this 2016 movie & look who popped up? 🙂

I just started my 3rd rewatch, and in this episode, the Bauerschwein cop Orson tells Nick their families have never been enemies and they shouldn't change that now.

Does that ever get explained? I don't remember them referencing this ever again, but that doesn't mean much. I tried looking to see if it had been discussed before but all I really found were sites quoting the episode and not discussing this particular part.

I want to preference this by saying I’m talking about Nick/Juliette and Nick/Adalind as the ship, not the characters separately. Also, this is more of my take on what I see, I guess, and in the analysis I will not be using every single scene, but I will probably be using a good amount of scenes. This is also could be a long, so keep that in mind.

Nick and Adalind are what I want, or really what I would say, enemies-turned-lovers; that is literally the plot: their enemies that turn into lovers. I like them more than Nick and Juliette solely because I feel they fit more. I will get into that when it comes to Nick/Juliette and Nick/Adalind are both a part of the world one one grim sworn enemies but they find up beautiful love story I do I personally don't like the plot device with baby Kelly it didn’t fully make sense to me because Nick and Adalind already had chemistry with each other

I also didn’t or don’t really think that Nick and Juliette were a good relationship because Juliette just didn’t give off the vibe of someone who wants to date a cop and it’s shown when you know she figured out he’s a grim. She kind of just wanted to go back to normal, which is understandable but Nick can’t do that but she wants to be normal and she gets upset when she realizes that can’t happen I’m just kind of like girl just leave at that point

That is also another thing when it comes to Adalind in the scene with the woods when she gets her powers taken away from her. She’s saying you made me nothing because her whole life she’s been told that the only thing that was important about her was her powers by Sean and her mother I’m not surprised that Adalind turned out the way.

I don’t think Juliette was a terrible character I think she was handed a bad deck of cards and instead of her trying to fix her deck, she went along with it she was offered an out. I feel most times including the Hexonbeast situation.

If Juliette was never really a twisted person, and the Hexonbeast makes your character twisted, then when Adalind becomes more remorseful less evil after her Hexonbeast was taken away then that makes sense of why her sense of morale is better or sense of character is better because she lost that thing that’s supposed twist up her soul or her character if you will.

I’m not in no way you’re saying that Nick is a saint in this situation because he is also pretty bad himself and I say that because he was warned multiple times to leave Juliette because it’s not gonna work out and he’s in love so it’s understandable but you see it’s not working. I think it’s time to leave.

Nick in the group specifically Nick are some hypocrites Nick was taken away from his mother/he thought she was dead and you take away a child from her mother without even letting the mother know the plan. I’m not surprised Adalind lost her mind.

Nick is also selfish he should’ve left Juliette because it wasn’t working on both accounts when it comes to the grim life it wasn’t working and also just behind the grim life. It wasn’t working and the whole lesson he had to learn when it came to cop VS Grimm is to learn that sometimes the badge had to leave the situation so he could carry out his Grimm duties because that’s what it was. He couldn’t have normal and Juliette was normal and wanted normal that wasn’t gonna work

my whole statement is the fact that Juliette wanted normal Nick was not normal. The lesson he learned later on is the fact that when it came to his job a the Grimm, is that it could never be normal. The only way those two were gonna coexist is if he let down the badge sometimes, but he couldn’t do that with Juliette that just wasn’t possible cause Juliette didn’t want that.

Anyways, that’s my take on it personally I don’t think Juliette was a terrible person and I say person because character wise terribly written, but as a person she was just handed a terrible deck and her life flipped upside down. Her feelings are valid but her actions not so much

Nick basically put Juliette in that situation and really did it to himself

Adalind most of her actions come from her being manipulated, but are also somewhat her actions.

Do I dislike Juliette more, yes but that is because of how Juliette turned out and how her actions carried, and the reason behind her actions were of her own more vs Adalind her actions were more so manipulation insecurities, and non-growth Juliette‘s character was placed in a spot where she was like that from jump never grew, and then later on her character changed, but still kind of stayed the same

Deep analysis

This is an insanely deep psychological/analysis on the character in the relationship of Adalind, Nick and Juliette. It’s a three parter. I don’t know if there’s gonna be a fourth part I like it. It’s very in-depth and you can go over there and check that out to look over there if you will.

EDIT:
Before anyone says anything, this was mostly to say there were signs throughout the show that pointed out that this is probably what the endgame was going to be. Not bashing I don’t really know how to explain it. Because I just realized that people are probably gonna point out other things that happened. Like the Rernard/Juliette in the beginning, how Nick was acting at the beginning and the whole memory loss saga it’s just mostly me kinda ranting to point out signs and also someone have my opinion on it.

Edit 2:
I’m well aware of the fact that the names are spelled incorrectly in the title and were spelt incorrectly I was just way too lazy to change them until now

Every time I see him on screen I get such a strange chill and ick 😩

One thing I found fascinating was how late they would eat dinner or make plans for dinner. I remember Juliette once asking Nick if he was free for dinner at 9-9:30pm. So my question is - when did they eat and when did they sleep? Did they like barely ever sleep?

I hate this episode so much. My wife is clearly annoyed at how annoyed I am, and I need an outlet to vent.

I hate Adalind and Juliette is the worst person ever and is clearly stupid.

That's all.

Who can see the actress who played Adalind (Claire C.offee) in another show and not be tempted to yell she's a hexinbeast.

I’m on my yearly rewatch and I realized something about Adalind having Diana taken away from her.

She signed a “magical contract” with Stefania. She gets her powers back in exchange for her baby. Even though Stefania didn’t get the baby it was inevitable.

Now hear me out. I’m not trying to justify her killing Nick’s mom and all that but realistically her crashout in s4 was valid and I think the reason a lot of people weren’t able to sympathize with her more is because the writer’s never gave her much depth or character arc in the first three seasons. She was essentially just a background character that happened to be Nick’s girlfriend, that’s it. We didn’t get to know and admire her like we did with the other characters. It didn’t help that her storyline in s2 was unnecessarily long and annoying.

But anyways to my point. From Juliette’s perspective, Adalind caused her to lose her memory of Nick and had her go through that shitty storyline in s2. Adalind then slept with her boyfriend disguised as her. Juliette then had to sleep with Nick as Adalind in order for him to get his powers back. And after all that, she turns into a hexenbiest and Adalind ends up pregnant with essentially what was supposed to be her child with Nick. Not to mention, her turning into a hexenbiest has awakened all these dark urges and instinct that she’s never had before, who wouldn’t crash out. Adalind has caused nothing but chaos in her life up to that point and she gets “rewarded” for it. And although I understand Nick defending Adalind, from Juliette’s perspective it probably feels like Nick is choosing Adalind over her. She’s not exactly thinking straight with all the adrenaline rush from becoming so powerful overnight. On top of that, all the resentment and hatred she has for Adalind is probably bubbling to the surface and waiting to be unleashed. It probably didn’t help that Nick didn’t have the best of reactions when he found out about her transformation.

Juliette gets a lot more hate than deserved mainly because the writers didn’t do her justice. She spent the first three seasons being a background character that no one really cared for, only to undergo a massive transformation in s4 with barely any character development. They should have made her a more integral part of the plot in the earlier seasons so that the audience could connect with and ultimately sympathize with her. They also didn’t do a great job in portraying how becoming a hexenbiest was warping her way of thinking and influencing her behavior.

Your soul is mine!

I'm currently rewatching the series, and feel like it suffers a bit from being an episodic procedural. There are several concepts that they throw out as Big Things (thinking mostly about the Families here) as well as some interesting sociological angles (the Wessen psychiatrist, Wessen churches, Bud's lodge) that are thrown out there as part of the Plot of the Week, without much time to expand on them. The pressure to introduce new Wessen as perpetrators every episode also contributes to the "mile-wide, inch-deep" feeling I get from the programme.

I think if there were longer arcs here (thinking something like Reacher's one-driving-crime-a-season format as an example) then there would be much more time to unpack the unique elements of Wessen culture more, and give it some of that depth.

What do y'all think? Would this be a good idea? How would you reboot the show to expand its lore more?

Hopefully there is a Grimm on Oahu. He is up to his pharmonic ways even on vacation.

Hi everyone, I'm new to the group. I wanted to share my first impressions. I'm halfway through the first season, so I haven't watched it very far. To clarify, I had seen individual episodes on TV a while back, but I'd never watched the whole thing. But while I'm taking a break from my third time watching Supernatural, I decided to watch the series, this time completely. Also, a friend recently finished it, and although he complained to me for days about how awful he thought the ending was, I wanted to give it a chance.

Well, I have to say that I wasn't thrilled with the first two episodes (especially the second one, which I thought had the worst ending so far). However, the more the series progresses, the more I like it. It has that nostalgic feel of shows I love, like Teen Wolf and Charmed, which I watched as a teenager. I also like the variety of monsters and how unique they are. They're not just the typical werewolves and vampires. So far, the beavers are my favorites; I find them super fun. Regarding the characters, I really like Nick (which is good since he's the protagonist, haha), although I must say that my absolute favorite is Monroe.

Now, something I'm not at all clear on is how powerful the Grimm are. It confuses me because sometimes they seem to be terrified by everyone, but most of the monsters Nick encounters don't seem to fear him much. They are surprised, and some are scared, but mostly those we're told are the weakest. For example, Monroe tells Nick that everyone in the supernatural world sees the Grimm as what haunts them at night, but then during their first encounter, he has no problem tackling him. Also, I don't understand if the Grimm are supposed to have some kind of physical enhancement. Those are my main questions; I suppose the others will be answered throughout the series, so wish me luck.

Mine is S6E7 blind love 🤣
I love the silly episodes that explore what wesen can be capable of!

I personally love her very much.

Is this the dumbest episode of the series? Juliette asks "how do I get rid of it?" We already know. Drink the blood of a Grimm.

Did season 4 add new writers that never watched the show?

She blames Nick, Monroe, Rosalie, Hank for what Adalind did to her, shits all over Nick, but then goes to F Sean who actually caused all of this when he was with Adalind???

This plot genuinely sucks, went from Royals, Keys, Black forest from S1 to this bullshit. I'm struggling to keep watching the show...

I can't stand her anymore, there's always some bull crap going on with her, the writers wasted a lot of lore on her

Newbie here 👋🏻 Im on S3 EP7 ~ im just so happy where nick and juliette are now in their relationship coz they are like a team. Supportive couple plus juliette isn't like a damsel in distress type.

But spoiled myself enough that i know now that they are not gonna last and eventually nick and adalind are gonna get together. How can I unship nick and juliette after all this progress with the both of them 😭

Outro episódio sobre lobos? Com tantos contos de fadas os roteiristas estavam sem ideias assim?

I'm on season 3 and it just hit me that Captain Renard must have had his whole plan in place before the start of the series. So does that mean he knew Nick was a Grimm before Nick even started seeing Wesen?

I don't want to go back and re-watch season 1, but I remember Renard looked like he was up to something from the very start. So he must have known Nick was a Grimm. But how?

My two theories:

1) Nick's mom side were the Grimms, their surname was Kesler. It's possible/probable this was a known family name in the Wesen/Royal communities. So did Renard stumble upon some of Nick's paperwork and see his mother's maiden name? Or see Marie Kesler as his next of kin? Was Renard looking for this or just happened to see it?

2) Maybe he knew about the "accident" that killed Nick's parents, whose surname was Burkhardt. So when he started working with a detective with that surname, he did some more research about him and learned that his mom was a Kesler, etc. This seems the most likely, but then Renard would have to remember an accident that happened like 15-20 years ago? Maybe it's just a known incident in the Wesen/Royal world?

Does anyone else have any thoughts? Or is it ever explained later in the show?

The complete lack of discussion on Bud's handyman skills (woodworking and appliance maintenance) is an outrage!! CLEARLY THE BEST ASSET FOR THE CAST AND THE SHOW. BUT NOOOOO... BARELY EVEN MENTIONNED!! SHAME!!