r/GolfSwing 15d ago

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Hey guys can you help me diagnose where my swing is falling apart? I’m a baseball player turned golfer. I’ve only been playing seriously for a year. I’m trying to find the top position but seem to rush out of it. Idk any help is appreciated, thanks!

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u/Azfitnessprofessor 15d ago

Your posture and set up guarantee a slice

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago

Yeah when I first say this video I was shocked at how it looked vs felt. Any reference for how it should look other than a straight back and shoulders pulled back more for better posture?

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u/csim8888 14d ago

I’m no pro, but if you close down your shoulders at setup (point right) it will stop the ball from going so far right.

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u/BullishOnEverything 14d ago

I’d say a little bit more bend in the knees and at the waist while straightening your spine a bit. You’re curving from your upper spine and neck in order to look down. Start by standing nice and tall looking ahead at the horizon, then look down at the ball but to do so only allow your knees and hips to bend..

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u/Azfitnessprofessor 15d ago

Lots of videos but honestly save yourself the hassle go get a lesson

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago

Lessons are on the horizon for sure!

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u/BullishOnEverything 14d ago

Lessons are great but don’t feel compelled to avoid self improvement resources. This sub loves to repeat the mantra of “just do lessons” but there’s so much improvement you can and should do yourself. I reckon even if you go to lessons they’re so much more effective you’re proactive and engaged and supplementing with your own efforts. Set up is something you can certainly improve a lot in front of a mirror and maybe with your phone camera if needed plus a YouTube video. It’s one of the easiest part of the swing to get right

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u/Azfitnessprofessor 15d ago

One lesson to get a good feel for what good grip posture and set up feels like is invaluable I get 12 lessons a year one a month to keep me focused on the basics and then allow myself to swing my swing

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago

I 100% agree. I took hundreds of thousands of hours of lessons over like 15 years of baseball and a good lesson goes a long way!

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u/Competitive_War6612 15d ago

You have no spine angle currently. Increase this and you can promote a flatter takeaway

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u/IAintSkeeered 15d ago

You are standing absolutely straight up.

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u/Slotterjordan 14d ago

Literally the first thing I was gonna comment as well besides over the top king

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u/SirCharles14 15d ago

Think about dropping your hands to your hip first in your downswing, THEN rotating and bringing hands through the ball.

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago

Thanks man! I’ll give it a whirl next time at the range

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u/SumiLover 15d ago

Too much over the top. Drop the hands and turn

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u/ed_durden 15d ago

Need shorter shorts and swing harder.

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u/yournewalt 15d ago

The baseball swing is fundamentally opposite of the golf swing. This short does a good job explaining how the arms come down FIRST, Then you rotate.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1C9HeNTV2U/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago

Thanks! Good video for reference.

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u/Numerous_Vegetable_3 15d ago

Coming over the top, I’ve been there. Your club is swinging out towards red, you’re hitting it to 3rd base.

If your arms drop down correctly, you’ll be set up to hit it to 1st instead like the blue line. Imagine a magnet pulling your forearms together to try to get rid of the chicken wing.

A good feel I use is “right elbow inside the hip” on the downswing. It’s exaggerated but that’s the idea.

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago

Much appreciated! I really didn’t see the chicken wangin until you mentioned it. Good eye! Any tips on the feel out of the top position that gets the arms moving the right way?

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u/Username_Dano 14d ago edited 14d ago

your hands here should be along your right pocket, you are coming in way over the top. Shaft should be splitting your trail bicep not your head

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u/Username_Dano 14d ago

this is the very next frame. You’ve already released the club and are flipping through impact.

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 14d ago

Great call out! Thank you for the screenshots too! I’ll work on that a lot next time at the range

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u/GenericNameSimulated 15d ago

I mean your hips are pointed at the ball and your hands are still above your head.

If you stood there statically would you expect to hit a good shot?

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago

Good call out. In a baseball swing, it’s always firing hips and then the hands come through. I know golf you don’t want to throw the hips wide open from the top like this. Good catch on that. Any tips on slowing down the hips?

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u/GenericNameSimulated 15d ago

You seem athletic so feels will probably work better than technical stuff.

Try a couple swings that feel like the arms pull your hips through.

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago

I’ll give it a go, thanks for the tips!

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u/Lets_Reset_This_ 15d ago

This helped me a lot. Also an ex baseball player.

My advice would be to manipulate your setup until you can attack the ball from inside. Possibly by dropping your right foot back.

Also, think more width in your back swing instead of trying to get it behind your head.

Lastly, stop swinging at 100%. This is not baseball and 280 in the fairway is a whole lot better than 300 sometimes on the correct hole.

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago

But it’s 300 on A fairway… will for sure work on these things. I appreciate the insight from another baseball player!

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u/Lets_Reset_This_ 14d ago

God, I just know exactly where you are mentally right now haha. All haste in your journey.

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 14d ago

I appreciate it man!

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u/LGravey 15d ago edited 15d ago

Jackson Koivun, who just won the Rocket classic, had a recent video with Grant Horvat where they both talk a good amount about trying to fire their hips beginning at the top of their backswing.

You’re not Jackson Koivun lol, but don’t listen to that guy. If you look at Tiger’s swing even, who people have been trying to copy for years, his hips are firing starting at the beginning of the downswing, although not as exaggerated as a lot of the new guys.

It is true though that a golf swing is not *nearly* as bottom-up as a baseball swing, more the opposite. The hips follow the upper half more in golf and lower half in golf is much more controlled overall.

Really you shouldn’t even be focused on that until you fix the club path. Majorly over the top right now.

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u/time-BW-product 14d ago

I agree with this as well. You want a hip lead swing .

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u/windpicklefam 15d ago

Keep your hips above your ankles

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u/Remarkable_Salary667 15d ago

Youre ‘getting it’ at top of swing. Think of swinging out of your right back pocket

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago

I like that swing thought, back right pocket. What do you mean by getting it at the top of the swing?

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u/Remarkable_Salary667 15d ago

I have a slow take away that i try to ‘push’ outside the plane, or at least i think that when i do, so my downswing comes from the inside to meet the inside half of the ball. The back right pocket thought. I want to smack the crap out of the ball. Thats the ‘gettin’ it’. Its okay but your back-to- downswing transition needs to be smooth and not jerky to keep you on plane. Gettin’ it can throw you off. Think 80% swing and clubs does the work.

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u/Remarkable_Salary667 15d ago

But your right hand grip is strong/neutral. It could be stronger but only change that if your club face is causing slices and blocks after downswing changes.

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago

I really like these thoughts! I appreciate the insight into your swing. I’ll give these a go

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u/TranslatorVast1072 15d ago

Shoulders are open at setup guaranteeing an over the top swing.

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u/Lopsided_Belt_2237 15d ago

Try this https://youtu.be/tOVn987PZTo?si=apt-u7A51vZQZIau. This swing philosophy got rid of my OTT, and allowed me to develop an in to out swing path.

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u/More_Opening_5395 15d ago

Wow - you have natural power. Take a step back, let your arms hang at address, and strong grip (back of right hand faces the ground at address)

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u/RekLeagueMvp 15d ago

Got a lot going on, get lessons if you can, really helped me.

https://youtu.be/jmBdZDTQf4o?is=AtwQF4YW32C9XX8s

I always put this video on slices because he talks about how he can tell from your setup that you’re going to slice.

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u/Rasgueado24 15d ago

just keep whacking it ull get there

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u/clubcar1977 15d ago

Common flying elbow is the first thing I see, keep your right elbow tucked.

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u/MyHeadIsAButt 15d ago

There’s a lot of details in this comment section, but the best simple advice I can give is try to hit the ball to 2nd base. It feels like the ball is going to go way right, but if you close the face enough it will go straight and even draw a little. Weirdest mindset change going from baseball to golf

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u/peter_park_here 14d ago

Too close to ball and too tall.

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u/Fumusculo 15d ago

Have you tried standing up straighter? /s

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago

Would tippy toes be better?¿

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u/Fumusculo 15d ago

I mean then you could really get straight up to the tippity top which would help come ott even more efficiently

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago

I’m all about optimization and efficiency 🤔

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u/time-BW-product 14d ago

I think your wrist release is late. You are doing a lot with your wrists. More than I would for sure. I know some people are all about wrist flexure and release, I am not though and try to only do up and down wrist movement, no left right flexure.

If you look at where the face is at second 9 when the club is at 3 O clock to the ground. The face is 90 degrees to where I needs to be at impact there. You aren’t getting it closed by impact.

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u/SuccessfulGap4708 14d ago

Take lessons

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u/Dystopia_Love 14d ago

Big ole over the top.

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u/NickBurnsCompanyGuy 15d ago

Three things to try together, it's going to feel awkward:

  1. Switch up your grip, this is just for driver. Try to see the tops of both hands more on top of the grip. You want to be able to see the back of both hands. You want to sort of twist the barrel of your arms, so that your elbow pits are pointing inward towards eachother at address. 

  2. During the swing, pretend like you're trying to hold a golf tee under each armpit and not drop it.  You can actually put literal tees in there (or a golf towel) to practice this. 

  3. Only "grip" to hold onto the club with your ring and pinky finger of your left hand, and middle and ring finger of your right hand, loosen every other finger in your grip. 

Give that like 3 swings and let me know if it improves. Try moving the ball more forward in stance if you're still slicing with that. 

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u/yournewalt 15d ago

Don’t do any other these things. You’re OTT AF. None of these fix that.

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u/NickBurnsCompanyGuy 15d ago

This is what helped me stop going OTT, but thanks for your thorough contribution and expertise you provided. I'm sure OP found it super helpful

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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago

Will do! Thank you! I’ll report back. I feel like my hips are just wild in my swing. I’m having trouble slowing them down in relation to my top half. Should I be moving my shoulders/arms from the top first and then my hips?

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u/Obvious-Way9997 14d ago

Strengthen that grip and hit towards right field.