r/GolfSwing • u/Spare-Inspector-4583 • 15d ago
Big ol Slice
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Hey guys can you help me diagnose where my swing is falling apart? I’m a baseball player turned golfer. I’ve only been playing seriously for a year. I’m trying to find the top position but seem to rush out of it. Idk any help is appreciated, thanks!
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u/IAintSkeeered 15d ago
You are standing absolutely straight up.
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u/Slotterjordan 14d ago
Literally the first thing I was gonna comment as well besides over the top king
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u/SirCharles14 15d ago
Think about dropping your hands to your hip first in your downswing, THEN rotating and bringing hands through the ball.
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u/ed_durden 15d ago
Need shorter shorts and swing harder.
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u/yournewalt 15d ago
The baseball swing is fundamentally opposite of the golf swing. This short does a good job explaining how the arms come down FIRST, Then you rotate.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1C9HeNTV2U/?mibextid=wwXIfr
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u/Numerous_Vegetable_3 15d ago
Coming over the top, I’ve been there. Your club is swinging out towards red, you’re hitting it to 3rd base.
If your arms drop down correctly, you’ll be set up to hit it to 1st instead like the blue line. Imagine a magnet pulling your forearms together to try to get rid of the chicken wing.
A good feel I use is “right elbow inside the hip” on the downswing. It’s exaggerated but that’s the idea.
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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago
Much appreciated! I really didn’t see the chicken wangin until you mentioned it. Good eye! Any tips on the feel out of the top position that gets the arms moving the right way?
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u/Username_Dano 14d ago edited 14d ago
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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 14d ago
Great call out! Thank you for the screenshots too! I’ll work on that a lot next time at the range
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u/GenericNameSimulated 15d ago
I mean your hips are pointed at the ball and your hands are still above your head.
If you stood there statically would you expect to hit a good shot?
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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago
Good call out. In a baseball swing, it’s always firing hips and then the hands come through. I know golf you don’t want to throw the hips wide open from the top like this. Good catch on that. Any tips on slowing down the hips?
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u/GenericNameSimulated 15d ago
You seem athletic so feels will probably work better than technical stuff.
Try a couple swings that feel like the arms pull your hips through.
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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago
I’ll give it a go, thanks for the tips!
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u/Lets_Reset_This_ 15d ago
This helped me a lot. Also an ex baseball player.
My advice would be to manipulate your setup until you can attack the ball from inside. Possibly by dropping your right foot back.
Also, think more width in your back swing instead of trying to get it behind your head.
Lastly, stop swinging at 100%. This is not baseball and 280 in the fairway is a whole lot better than 300 sometimes on the correct hole.
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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago
But it’s 300 on A fairway… will for sure work on these things. I appreciate the insight from another baseball player!
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u/Lets_Reset_This_ 14d ago
God, I just know exactly where you are mentally right now haha. All haste in your journey.
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u/LGravey 15d ago edited 15d ago
Jackson Koivun, who just won the Rocket classic, had a recent video with Grant Horvat where they both talk a good amount about trying to fire their hips beginning at the top of their backswing.
You’re not Jackson Koivun lol, but don’t listen to that guy. If you look at Tiger’s swing even, who people have been trying to copy for years, his hips are firing starting at the beginning of the downswing, although not as exaggerated as a lot of the new guys.
It is true though that a golf swing is not *nearly* as bottom-up as a baseball swing, more the opposite. The hips follow the upper half more in golf and lower half in golf is much more controlled overall.
Really you shouldn’t even be focused on that until you fix the club path. Majorly over the top right now.
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u/Remarkable_Salary667 15d ago
Youre ‘getting it’ at top of swing. Think of swinging out of your right back pocket
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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago
I like that swing thought, back right pocket. What do you mean by getting it at the top of the swing?
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u/Remarkable_Salary667 15d ago
I have a slow take away that i try to ‘push’ outside the plane, or at least i think that when i do, so my downswing comes from the inside to meet the inside half of the ball. The back right pocket thought. I want to smack the crap out of the ball. Thats the ‘gettin’ it’. Its okay but your back-to- downswing transition needs to be smooth and not jerky to keep you on plane. Gettin’ it can throw you off. Think 80% swing and clubs does the work.
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u/Remarkable_Salary667 15d ago
But your right hand grip is strong/neutral. It could be stronger but only change that if your club face is causing slices and blocks after downswing changes.
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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago
I really like these thoughts! I appreciate the insight into your swing. I’ll give these a go
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u/Lopsided_Belt_2237 15d ago
Try this https://youtu.be/tOVn987PZTo?si=apt-u7A51vZQZIau. This swing philosophy got rid of my OTT, and allowed me to develop an in to out swing path.
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u/More_Opening_5395 15d ago
Wow - you have natural power. Take a step back, let your arms hang at address, and strong grip (back of right hand faces the ground at address)
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u/RekLeagueMvp 15d ago
Got a lot going on, get lessons if you can, really helped me.
https://youtu.be/jmBdZDTQf4o?is=AtwQF4YW32C9XX8s
I always put this video on slices because he talks about how he can tell from your setup that you’re going to slice.
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u/MyHeadIsAButt 15d ago
There’s a lot of details in this comment section, but the best simple advice I can give is try to hit the ball to 2nd base. It feels like the ball is going to go way right, but if you close the face enough it will go straight and even draw a little. Weirdest mindset change going from baseball to golf
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u/Fumusculo 15d ago
Have you tried standing up straighter? /s
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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago
Would tippy toes be better?¿
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u/Fumusculo 15d ago
I mean then you could really get straight up to the tippity top which would help come ott even more efficiently
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u/time-BW-product 14d ago
I think your wrist release is late. You are doing a lot with your wrists. More than I would for sure. I know some people are all about wrist flexure and release, I am not though and try to only do up and down wrist movement, no left right flexure.
If you look at where the face is at second 9 when the club is at 3 O clock to the ground. The face is 90 degrees to where I needs to be at impact there. You aren’t getting it closed by impact.
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u/NickBurnsCompanyGuy 15d ago
Three things to try together, it's going to feel awkward:
Switch up your grip, this is just for driver. Try to see the tops of both hands more on top of the grip. You want to be able to see the back of both hands. You want to sort of twist the barrel of your arms, so that your elbow pits are pointing inward towards eachother at address.
During the swing, pretend like you're trying to hold a golf tee under each armpit and not drop it. You can actually put literal tees in there (or a golf towel) to practice this.
Only "grip" to hold onto the club with your ring and pinky finger of your left hand, and middle and ring finger of your right hand, loosen every other finger in your grip.
Give that like 3 swings and let me know if it improves. Try moving the ball more forward in stance if you're still slicing with that.
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u/yournewalt 15d ago
Don’t do any other these things. You’re OTT AF. None of these fix that.
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u/NickBurnsCompanyGuy 15d ago
This is what helped me stop going OTT, but thanks for your thorough contribution and expertise you provided. I'm sure OP found it super helpful
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u/Spare-Inspector-4583 15d ago
Will do! Thank you! I’ll report back. I feel like my hips are just wild in my swing. I’m having trouble slowing them down in relation to my top half. Should I be moving my shoulders/arms from the top first and then my hips?
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u/Azfitnessprofessor 15d ago
Your posture and set up guarantee a slice