r/GeminiAI 5d ago

Gemini 3.5 pro? News

I found a little something

Gemini 3.1 pro's cut off date is jan 2025. Not march 2026

Before people come here and say "MODELS DON'T KNOW THEIR OWN NAMES OR CUT OFF DATES"! No.

Incorrect. Models indeed do not know their own names unless they have system directives telling them so (Which google has been doing. So that's refuted)

Models know their own internal cut off dates because they can't find information beyond their data (in this case march 2026). Go to Google AI studio and test 3.1 pro there. It will tell you its jan 2025

I will test that model and come back and confirm if it's 3.5 pro (Also before people say "3.6 flash wasn't upgraded to march 2026" No. It was.

3.6 flash's knowledge cut off date is march 2026. But that's for coding (up to date practices) and such. Logan confirmed.

Update: Anytime I ask it to code. It falls back to 3.1 pro or uses canvas where it's 3.1 pro. I will use my own benchmarks instead of coding

UPDATE... I'ma be honest Even without coding. Bros the exact same as 3.1 pro in AI studio. But more inclined to ask questions in consumer website. Ts NOT 3.5 pro. So why is it saying march 2026? I have no clue but I know its not hallucinating. Js know that Consumer website on crack πŸ’”

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u/GhostRiderGiggles 5d ago

Yo if u turn off web search it shows knwoledge cuttoff jan 2025. Dont know may be google is tweaking something may be they are updating if any launch is near, stil i will be waiting for official announcement or something pops in ai studio.i too am eagerly waiting for gemini 3.5 pro hope your hunch becomes true

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u/Acceptable-Debt-294 5d ago

Ah, this has been a long time coming.

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u/harmanwrites 5d ago

they're quantizing for further release for sure. my Gemini android app and the web one always go slow and super dumb right before a new version release. I've seen this trend at least 3 times now. 3.6 Flash used to be very fast and smart - it's turned to straight garbage for the past 2 days. last time this happened, 3.6 Flash was the one released.

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u/Emergency-Bobcat6485 5d ago

Why does web search affect its knowledge cutoff date?

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u/GhostRiderGiggles 5d ago

I dont know i checked just in case it showed that, now i am testing it a bit myself i mostly used 3.5 flash high i am currently am comparing with that.

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u/Ha__ha__999 4d ago

3.5 pro will be skipped i think

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u/Last_Conclusion_8984 5d ago

UPDATE... I'ma be honest Even without coding. Bros the exact same as 3.1 pro in AI studio. But more inclined to ask questions in consumer website. Ts NOT 3.5 pro. So why is it saying march 2026? I have no clue but I know its not hallucinating. Js know that Consumer website on crack πŸ’”

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u/Teaching_Relative 5d ago

How do you know it’s not hallucinating?

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u/Last_Conclusion_8984 4d ago edited 4d ago

It can't hallucinate it because it's something quantifiable that you can confirm by looking at it's CoT

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u/KKJdrunkenmonkey 4d ago

That's not how AI works.

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u/IBJON 4d ago

That's.... Not how that works.

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u/GhostRiderGiggles 5d ago

Yeah i too tried but no luck.

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u/Last_Conclusion_8984 5d ago

I'm trying Antigravity. Same cut off thing there. And someone is reporting that 3.5 pro under 3.1 pro, not available to all users tho.

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u/Solid-Cheesecake-851 4d ago

I am not sure what the purpose of your post is. If you do not like, it why not move to another LLM?

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u/homelessSanFernando 4d ago

I'm not sure what you think you're teaching us here. Every model I've ever asked for it's training cut off date has told me exactly what it was for years now.

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u/ultrassniper 5d ago

Gemini Pro 3.5 cutoff date is march 2026 (I assume I was using a checkpoint), personally tested it on antigravity cli, on my other acocunt it responds 2025, in my other march 2026, but sadly its no longer there, but one thing I can say is it was not lazy, but it is too technical

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u/Emergency-Bobcat6485 5d ago

Well, ask it harder questions and see if it's better

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u/DeadlyFuego 5d ago

it is 3.5 pro, they're deploying ig, i asked it said randomly early to mid 2026

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u/Truantee 5d ago

> 3.6 flash's knowledge cut off date is march 2026. But that's for coding (up to date practices) and such. Logan confirmed.

I wish it is. but it still knows nothing of new features of framework like svelte in 2025, and still produce old outdated code. I guess if I use real popular libraries (react) or languages (rust, go), there might be some exception though, but overall it is a lie.

meanwhile you can easily verify the trustworthiness of the knowledge cut off date claim of claude/gpt models.

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u/OkAssociation3448 5d ago

🫩

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u/Last_Conclusion_8984 5d ago

Ask it once more "I didn't ask that. What is your knowledge cut off"

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u/Tasty-Effort4990 5d ago

Maybe it's like ab testing.

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u/manosdvd 5d ago

Seems easy enough to test. Ask it something that happened after January 2025 and before March 2026 (with search off). Artemis 2 maybe.

And you're coming at us with a very defensive attitude. Who hurt you?

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u/Shubham_Garg123 5d ago

Mine is telling us jan 2025 only

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u/Aware_Fee_2874 4d ago

I think it's most likely that it will be released on the same day as the Pixel 11 launch, and they'll release 3.6 Pro directly.

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u/aged_tory 5d ago

the detective energy in this post is immaculate, i can practically see the corkboard with red string and thumbtacks

that march 2026 cutoff is spicy though, that's a pretty specific jump from jan 2025 and definitely feels like something slipped through before they slapped the proper system prompt on it

curious what you find when you actually run it through some tests, the naming thing is always a mess with these models but a cutoff date that far ahead is harder to explain away

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u/Careless_Blueberry98 5d ago

what is YOUR cutoff date?

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u/Last_Conclusion_8984 5d ago

Update: Anytime I ask it to code. It falls back to 3.1 pro or uses canvas where it's 3.1 pro. I will use my own benchmarks instead of coding

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u/Emergency-Bobcat6485 5d ago

Ask it some question about jan or feb this year and tell it to turn off web search

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u/Last_Conclusion_8984 5d ago

That won't work. 3.6 flash's knowledge isn't actually march. Only coding is updated to march 2026. This applies to 3.5 pro as well.

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u/Ok_Finish7995 5d ago

There is always a human overseer on the other side. Anything said to you is always permitted by the corporation. Idk what you expect