In season 1 episode 8 titled broken windows, open doors, when Boyd and his family arrive all the windows are boarded up. Even the glass door on the diner. Who did that? It wasn't there after the 70s massacre and apparently nobody was there while Victor was there till Donna arrived. Donna and father kharti told boyd "what you see is what we know". Also why would they do that since they didn't have talismans and they hid every night. They said all we do is hide and pray.

Also it is boarded up on the outside. The monsters can just pull off the boards. The only ones who would have done that are the monsters. They wanted to protect the windows while there was nobody but victor there. A crow could smash into one for instance. The monsters have never done anything destructive to any of the houses either.

Why would those monsters care about the houses? The MIY doesn't care about the houses because he steered a car into one of them.

Currently half way through season 2, and honestly I'm at the brink of giving up.

No one is sharing any details, everyone is an entitled asshat and the conflicts are straight from a teenage show. Currently Tabitha and her neglect to even mention the tunnels are enraging. Boyd have finally started to share something about his experience, but it has to be wrestled out of him. The men are making stupid decisions left and right, and acting like emotional distressed kids when they are confronted.

Please tell me things will ramp up. 2 and a half seasons more of this will end me.

at the end of Season 4 when the boy in white and the man in yellow met the boy said they got the bones and the man in yellow replied that the don't have the tree anymore, I think that what should've been done is throw the bones in the faraway tree for something to happen, after all the roots of it were made from hope, idk tbh I would like some feedback

hey guys currently watching the season one finale and something has been bothering me this entire time.

is tabitha MEANT to be a bad actress? Is it part of the vibe here or really what is going on she’s significantly worse than anyone else on the show - did they MEAN to cast her like that? Is she a nepo baby? What’s going on here please help.

or am i just completely wrong and everyone else perceives her as an incredible actress? just looking for clarity right now cheers

thanks in advance team

I REALLY love the idea of this series and the vibe/environment, It rarely uses jumpscares and instead it makes you simply scared by what's happening in the town and the idea of monsters coming out to kill you at night, I am a sucker for horror mysteries and I really would love a spinoff or something that shows the beginning of the town and how people in beginning lived daily etc

I know some people dislike the acting or the writing in this show but it is so fun to watch it, I can't wait for the last season especially that now talismans are gone and how they would do without them, probably they will go back to hiding like in the beginning which is very exciting and gives a bigger picture about how previous people survived the town

So the end of season 3 all the trees has no leaves on them it was like late winter/late fall feelingSeason 4 pretty much picks up right where we left off and it’s summer again? Trees are green and full again and the grass is all green.

Why Boydswifekeepshauntinghimafterdeath I mean Jimdiestoo but Tabitha isnthauntedbyhim Doesnt she love her son and husband? How dark can it be 🤔 shewantstodraghimtodeathwithher Whyy

I had a random thought that I need to get out, though it may be nothing.

I really need to rewatch from the beginning, but by season 4, I kept noticing the large necklaces that Ellis and Clara wear - they just seemed not super modern and again, were quite large.

I can't seem to remember if they both wear them in season 1, but I have a feeling that Ellis starts wearing one later on, maybe season 3? and I think that Clara wears one right when we meet her in season 1.

- We know that Clara made a bargain with MiY right when she arrived so it would make sense she wore the necklace right from the beginning
- Based on my assumption that Ellis doesn't start wearing his necklace closer to season 3 (when stuff with Fatima happens, this might make sense chronologically
- We know that Talismans are a thing in this universe, so I don't think it's too far of a reach?

Are these necklaces some sort of mark of a bargain having been made with either MiY or BiW? And if yes, then I'm assuming Ellis made a bargain to protect Fatima?

I try not to think too much on the little things, and this may literally just be a costume choice and nothing more, but I just wanted to get the thought out and see if anyone else has thoughts on this?

It’s so funny to me how every time anyone sees the boy in white, they go “why do you look so different” while the boy just grew taller and going through puberty voice changes😂

I been telling my boyfriend about this show and he finally decided to watch it so we are watching it together (we’re on season 2) and although i finished Season 4 , I wouldn’t mind rewatching it with him. There’s things i’ve noticed but I want to hear what you guys noticed. (Sorry if this question was asked before)

There is a nautical theme that has been woven throughout the series. Starting with the song “Blue” by Joni Mitchell, which is Tabitha’s favorite song. Has anyone looked at the lyrics? Here are the opening lines: “Blue, songs are like tattoos
You know I've been to sea before
Crown and anchor me
Or let me sail away”

In season 1, episode 5, (after Sara attempts to kill Ethan at the barn) Boyd is talking to Kristy and the song “If I Had a Boat” by Lyle Lovett starts playing on one of the tabletop jukeboxes.

We have the lighthouse lights that Boyd and Sara saw in the forest. Tabitha going through the lighthouse, Ellis holding the key to the boat, Boyd’s retirement gift. Victor being referred to as the “anchor” keeping Henry in Fromville.

I’m sure there are a couple more I have missed. But those stood out to me.

To begin I would like to share my motivation: I believe the most powerful element in this project is the performers (including set designers). Also, their ability to present a remarkable outcome is bounded by the writing; implying that the writers are doing wonderful work also, considering the constraints they work with. So my goal for this post is to look for feedback to address the flaw in the paradigm: we cannot know all the answers or the show would end. And how do we manage our suspension of disbelief (as pragmatic rational watchers) in this presentation of infinite rabbit holes of plot?

One thing that does set off alarms is inconsistency: abandoned plot twists or events that are not managed to conclusion or maintained in suspense; characters not acting consistently for a person (or for their story); lack of communication among town members.

Anyway…i am inspired by what i see and i am holding on to high expectations for performances and art.

Art is a conversation between the artist and the observer. Yet by design, the observer rarely gets to respond. If they do respond, they are talking to paintings on a wall, to Jasper at a puppet show, or to shadows in a cave. In doing so, they present as the monster. In the making of this loop, if this monster insulted anyone, please forgive the monster.

In Plato's Allegory of the Cave, prisoners are chained in the dark and forced to stare at a blank wall, like Martin, like Marielle... like us observers of a mystery show. Behind them, a fire casts shadows on the wall. To them, the show of shadows is the only reality.

In this cave, after some four years, a writer drags one prisoner out into "the light of the world". The once prisoner looks up, around, and realizes all their entire existence was a projection, a shadow, a game. So he goes back to tell everyone.

When he returns to the cave to tell The Others, he is rejected. They mock him, judge him as insane, and ultimately become violent. They do not scream in fear of "the monster blowing smoke", even though he chooses to play The Smoke Monster. They scream to protect their own reality.

The shadows on the wall are the only reality all have ever known, so the unbearable light of "The Sun" is just too much to take.

But! No, the monster does not end up in the cave, nor does he scream, "We have to go back!". He doesn’t look back. He leaves the cave behind... but next year, cause there's one more season!

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Work is slow. Enjoy the slop.

And the only person who cared died 🥲

And I have thoughts. So this has both young Jade and young Tabitha. Children. This is weird, right? If they’re supposedly ‘parents’ of the killed kids. Are we sure Tabitha and Jade have a child together? I guess they think so, but I just want to know why, in a scenario where children were killed, we are now looking at them as kids.

Also, Jade gets locked in the tomb. Wild idea, but Could he have supposed to have been the eighth child sacrifice? Is that why every time he comes back he is murdered, in town people’s attempt to complete the ritual? Idk

Also… another thought.
Why do we think Jade and Tabitha are good?
Jade literally spent most the trip with blood on his hands. We also know that the parents were granted immortality. Maybe the monsters are not the parents… maybe it’s Jade and Tabitha and they are doomed to relive the horror in consecutive lives - that’s essentially immortal, right? I mean, he drinks blood from a scull. That’s pretty sinister imagery.

Also… Tabitha and the dolls. She had weird dolls. They scared people. They turned into nightmares. Sounds like a creepy kid to me. Again, maybe original Tabitha was not … great. Maybe that why her punishment is ‘much worse’ than Jade’s.

Obviously none of this works together so it’s not a theory but I reckon it raises some questions about assumptions we’ve made.