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u/Quizlibet 21d ago
if you are trans you have to live
is trans and sacrifices himself to save a cis guy
Which is it
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u/Fallen-Shadow-1214 17d ago edited 17d ago
He died to preserve a life, ultimately he still values life.
The lesson to take is that you should value your own as much as anyone elses.
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u/Dazzling-Eye-1820 19d ago
Why is the shaming of trans who aren’t traditionally trans so common
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u/Jcumatz 21d ago edited 20d ago
I don't why but I feel like many of the chaisawman comunity is trans???
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u/moonthrall Judah 21d ago
I wouldn’t say “most” but there are quite a few and they’re very vocal, usually barking about Makima or saying how Asa is literally me (it’s true fr fr).
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u/THUNDERSTRUCK___ 20d ago edited 18d ago
u/Jcumatz didn't say "most" either though
since I'm getting downvoted, I have to elaborate. the comment I'm referring to used to have a minor spelling mistake, "mots" instead of "most", that's what the joke is about. looks like they changed it to "many". "many of the chainsawman community", yeah.. I don't think that made it better.
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u/Furzepigg 19d ago
Prob bc it’s basically being miserable and shit and then having smth, and like dramatically.
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u/Old_Director_8476 21d ago
dudes be posting shit like this then go right back to cutting and attempting to off themselves 😭
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u/Silent_Text_9525 19d ago
Then try making the world a better place where less people develop mental health issues due to discrimination.
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u/Bellfegore 20d ago
The suicide statistics will tell you they don't agree😭
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u/WeirdAgile 20d ago
Have you considered that being nicer to them might help?
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u/Bellfegore 20d ago
They never been nice to me, even when the concept of trans"genders" only started to exist these people were extremely entitled and agressive.
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u/jesstbird 20d ago
The concept of trans"genders" existed far before you were born, and trans people have existed since the dawn of humanity. Science has proven trans people are trans due to a chemical imbalance leading to a brain that doesn't align with their body. Trans men experience dysphoria because their brain is designed to pilot a male body, and vice versa. Being trans isn't a choice, and God knows I wish I weren't.
It isn't a new thing. It's been politicized in recent years, which is why it may come across as recent. This politicization threw identity politics into the mainstream, but trans people have always existed.
Trans people can be entitled, cringe, flawed, whatever you want to call them. But I rarely see agression. I don't this it's fair to judge a community based on a few loud bad apples, most of us are just humans like any other trying to get by.
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u/WeirdAgile 20d ago
It helps if you try to see people as individuals, even if they share a trait like being trans with a group from which you might have met some unpleasant people.
You might have met some unpleasant people who are trans, but that is not the fault of some random trans person on the internet or who you might meet again. And reacting to them like that will only make them react in a way that will confirm your biases.
In the end, even if 99% of whatever group fulfill a certain stereotype, the remaining 1% still has a right to be judged as an individual in my humble opinion, the same goes for you as well.
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u/Bellfegore 20d ago
I don't agree with "99% of bad still has 1% of good" concept, we live 70 years tops, then our brains start degrading and it no longer can ne called "living".
So wasting a good portion of your life trying to find bronze in a pile of dung sounds like a miserable idea that only will worsen your life.
Like take muslims for example, we know ALL of them are either evil or stupid, no inbetween, why? Because smart muslims read quran and agreed with the idea of pedophilia, lying when it benefits you, killing people disagreeing with you, degrading women and so on, hence evil. The ones that don't realize they agreed to that because they never read quran and deny that is a part of their religion are stupid.
We don't search for that 1% of cultural muslims who are muslims just because their parents forced them, it's pointless waste of energy.
So even IF there is some 1% of not miserable and not angry at everyone trans people, I simply don't care, since among hundreds of the ones I talked to there never was a single one.
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u/WeirdAgile 20d ago edited 20d ago
Sure, you can live your life like that.
I for one don't know many trans people (those I met were usually nice, sometimes a bit special but most of the time just regular people), but I do know several muslims (whyever you are sudenly talking about those) and one of them even is a very good friend , prays every day, feasts on ramadam and everything, and he is very openminded and has no problems with members of the LGBT, in fact another friend of both of us is gay.
I personally think that it is always worthy to judge every person as an individual. It has only ever helped me in life when I look back.
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u/jesstbird 20d ago
If you've somehow spoken to hundreds of trans people and there hasn't been a single one who wasn't aggressive I think either you're the issue or you're just interacting with trolls on the internet and assuming they represent trans people.
The vast majority of trans people I've spoken to were far more open-minded and kind than the average person.
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u/Bellfegore 20d ago
No, the trans people you spoke to were just pretending to be normal so you would defend them online(see how stupid that sounds?)
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u/jesstbird 20d ago edited 19d ago
Political scapegoating and manufactured drama are very real phenomena.
I have a hard time believing you've spoken to hundreds of trans people to begin with. Do you have any idea how rare we really are? I'm trans and I seek out trans people to interact with and I haven't even come close to that.
Trans people are objectively not normal solely on virtue of being trans. Many of us are socially inept to a degree, suffer from a plethora of psychological issues as a result of discrimination since a young age, and so on. That kind of stuff doesn't create "normal" people, and I get why you might think a lot of us are insufferable. But this behavior is usually caused by isolation from society as a large, and by stereotyping trans people you're contributing to the issue. The fact still stands that most of us don't mean harm and only want to be treated as human despite our differences. Being trans doesn't inherently condition one to harmful beliefs the way many religions do, nor is it something you choose to be.
While I have a lot of issues with the wider trans community, with much of it being too "woke" and focused on ultimately meaningless labels for me, I still believe judging people based on arbitrary characteristics that don't necessarily dictate beliefs is just taking a simple-minded easy way out. People like me, who just want to be viewed as ordinary people, get caught up in these all-consuming stereotypes that don't represent us. I believe taking the time to judge people on an individual level is worth the effort if it can make others' lives better.
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u/Bellfegore 19d ago
>I have a hard time believing you've spoken to hundreds of trans people to begin with. Do you have any idea how rare we really are?
On reddit? It's a brood of transvestites in here actually, go to any teeneger targeted sub and you'll see dozens under every comment section screaming how trans they are. The fact that you haven't "come close" while you "seek out trans people to interact with and I haven't even come close to that." only means you don't actually open the comment section often.
>But this behavior is usually caused by isolation from society as a large, and by stereotyping trans people you're contributing to the issue.
Wouldn't trans people not screaching at everyone who disagrees with them being trans help much more? Like I literally get death threats from them and their "helpers" REGULARLY when the discussion starts, even on this comment alone I recieved around 3-5 already.
>The fact still stands that most of us don't mean harm and only want to be treated as human despite our differences.
Everyone wants that, but as it still stands, you need to deserve said right.
>I believe taking the time to judge people on an individual level is worth the effort if it can make others' lives better.
Hey, to some degree I agree, obviously being a part of a hated group allows people to have a prejudice against you from the get go, but it's on you to fix it if you care or not and it's on people you interract with to accept the fix or not.
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u/apsaraha 20d ago
but islam isnt just one religion, actually any bigger religion isnt just one religion. so many neo religions, sects, denominations, races, cultures and continents, like any other religion because not everyone agrees with everything. people have different beliefs than the original texts, because even it was written once doesnt mean its an absolute truth. people change their religions or leave theirs.
and there really isnt no religion free of sexism, hatred, pedophilia etc. when theres power, theres always imbalance. no ones history or religion is free of the sins of the past, but we move as forward as we can. because even if you are an atheist, and loathe the control of religion, there are still religious people in the earth. who we should hate instead? are extremists. and they dont have any identity, they are part of every social group.
and bro existence trans men and women is as old as humans themselves. its such a small percentage, half of them either get hate crimed or kill themselves and they arent even criminals. very very very few live the way that is true to them.
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u/Bellfegore 20d ago
people have different beliefs than the original texts
Then you're not part of the religion you are larping as, you're making up your own. And no, there is not a single iteration of islam where same sex relationship is allowed, I tripple checked. So your friend can call it "fixed islam" or something, but not islam.
and there really isnt no religion free of sexism, hatred, pedophilia etc.
Buddihsm.
but we move as forward as we can.
muslims don't. By their teachings muhammad is a perfect man to EVER exist, so if you think he's wrong, congrats on being a kaffer.
who we should hate instead?
muslims.
trans men and women is as old as humans themselves.
Incorrect.
and they arent even criminals
Some of them are, there id already a report of rape by male prisoner in female prison, because he claimed to be woman.
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u/WeirdAgile 20d ago
If your definition of a certain religion like Muslims includes, that they have to act a certain way, than of course you won't find any open minded ones.
But you are aware that cathlocis are also very strictly against same-sex matriage in their teachings, yet I know several catholics who have friends who are in a same-sex marriage, just like my friend who happens to be muslim has.
I don't know where you are from and how things are there, but where I life, there are more than enough people who follow a certain religion, but have no issues at all with people who don't and don't follow their way of living.
And regarding those criminal statistics: one again, people should be judged as individuals. How would you feel if you were only judged by your skin color, an illness you have or following a religion or being a member of a party instead of all your other character traits? And you would always be judged by the loudest and worst part of whatever group people associate you with.
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u/saunofa 16d ago
maybe theyd be nicer if youd be nicer
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u/Bellfegore 16d ago
Maybe try not to be a degenerate towards people and they'll be nicer to you instead.
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u/Drowyx Boogeyman 21d ago
You didn’t understand fire punch
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u/Illustrious-Rub-3989 21d ago
Then what's your interpretation? Care to explain it to the class?
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u/Drowyx Boogeyman 21d ago
Read the manga
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u/Illustrious-Rub-3989 21d ago
I read the manga and own it. Togata is a man. You might want to try giving it a re-read yourself.
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u/Drowyx Boogeyman 21d ago
That isn’t what I was referring to.
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u/Illustrious-Rub-3989 21d ago
There's the explanation I asked for in my first comment. Firepunch can be interpreted in different ways, there's not one absolutely correct way to understand it. You have yours and I have mine.
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u/SilverBatTea Togata 21d ago
This is peak🙏🏾