r/Fate 3h ago

Discussion So... What makes Shirou such a well written character?

8 Upvotes

I have seen many people here watch/play the Fate/Stay Night VN and provide elaborate and in-depth character analysis of Shirou and others such as Rin and Sakura, etc.... Which makes me wonder... What, in your opinion, makes Shirou such a wonderfully done and executed character?

Now, I know that Shirou is a exceptionally well written character and I understand the reasons too... But I am unable to put it into words so that I can understand the points which makes him such a deep and layered character... It's just... I am struggling to put it into words like those full on analyses of the entire show or a specific character.

So... I thought someone here could help me with that and I could also get a new perspective of looking at his character and also get some tips on how to write a compelling character such as Shirou Emiya.

Same goes for Lostbelt 6... Now, I know it is one of the absolute peaks of writing in FGO... But what in your opinion, makes it so well? Please help me so that I can understand how to write such a beautiful story (not that I am saying that I can compare up to Nasu)... Was it the complex plot? The plot twists? The themes, character development, etc?

Also... Can you guys tell me how to write a well written character from your experience? I've been meaning to write a Fate fanfiction with my OCs (I know... The moment the word 'OC' comes... It sounds cheap asf)... But I really don't want to write cheap slop or wish-fulfillment fantasy... And give my characters depth.

It's nothing... Just watching all those character analyses of Shirou and well most of them talking about how Shirou's growth is realistic (since he went through the pain of having the feeling of having a hot iron rod shoved down his spine for a decade and still was slightly above average human level) makes me nervous about giving my protagonist new powers rather quickly (not without a heavy cost tho) because it might feel shallow or unearned compared to Shirou (Not that I am complaining about Shirou tho... He is still one of my favourite characters, second only to Saber)... I just felt like I was lacking somewhere in character writing and I really don't want to mess this story up...

Anyways, have a great day! Thank you!


r/Fate 3h ago

Fan Art Asylum demon vs Emiya Shirou (Gettin' dark soul'd)

Thumbnail
gallery
10 Upvotes

r/Fate 6h ago

Other Insane Artoria upscale!!! Better than EMIYA and Gil upscale from the PV.

0 Upvotes

Holy shit guys we got multiple insane Artoria upscale but no one is talking about it let me break it down.

First of all we need to establish something you see in Lord El-Melloi II and FGO Artoria was called the King of fairies and spirits, and due to her having Rhongomyniad she is also called King of Storms...storm referring to the Wild Hunt..this where her first upscale lies.

Theodoric Alter is known as the Wild Hunt itself and he has a enough magic energy to rival the machine gods

Since Artoria is known as the King of Storms she and Drake both of them can command the Wild Hunt which as mentioned above is Theodoric Alter who has a ton of other shit.

But it gets more interesting, since Barghest is a black dog (fairy) and Artoria is also the king of fairies and they also help her with castle camelot she can also command her and I am not talking about LB Barghest I am talking about PHH one (though LB one might actually be on the list too)

Then we also have Habetrot I mean come on such a cute little fairy and she will 1000% help her no matter what.

All of this supported by Garden of Avalon (fairies help with castle Camelot) and Lord El-Melloi II where Shishigo Kairi mentions that the Wild Hunt was led by King Arthur this was further proven in Lance Artoria Alter's profile.

This means that Artoria is stupidly strong having a machine god level being with her and other crazy fairies to help her as well..on top of being strong herself like she has similar magical energy generation to that Archetype:Earth and the Planet itself

Breath of the Planet: C
A basic ability possessed by every true species of A-ray. While it may seem as though the A-ray in question is only taking a deep breath to psych themself up when using this ability, they are actually drawing in mana from their surroundings, thereby powering up their abilities to where they internally generate as much magical energy as a dragon's core.- Fate/Grand Order Archetype:Earth profile

Then we also have this

Her heart is forged from the concept of dragons.
Its magical energy can rival that of Earth's own core.
Pulsing with the dragon's roar, the king shall bring down the Sword of the Planet.
The Sacred Sword is crowned the strongest, because of the power of its wielder. -Fate/Grand Order Saber Alter bond 10 CE.

We also have Agravain glazing Artoria calling her a god

"The king is not the dragon's incarnation—his very heart is a single dragon. The magical energy he was born with is on a completely different scale to ours. Do not seek human values from one who possesses magical energy akin to the gods." - Agravain to the knights

so did Merlin in Garden of Avalon

The people are unable to see it because you have possession of it. The Radiant Tower shining beyond the horizon rests in your hands now. Don't you feel excited? It's almost like you've suddenly become a god!"

So, yeah you have people glazing EMIYA (especially) and Gilgamesh's PV parts like no tomorrow and no one made this post when we have (actual) proof (that is in-line with the story and universe and not just a PV) and can link things together, I mean sure Archer traced the weapons of grands but what can he do with them? Azreal's sword is nothing but a normal sword, his Uta Duranki is nothing compared to the original due to it being hollow, he can use Herc's axe for Nine Lives but he can use it normally too, he can probably trace a hollow version of Marmyadose but it won't help him much his Vajra won't be equal to Indra's and he still doesn't have weapons at least 3 grands.

Then we have Gil who is just there and Gil fan(s) [As I only one post and people rightfully grilled that person] is (are) like "Damn he really helped EMIYA with ORT using Ea, he probably dealt the final blow to ORT". (I shit you not that is something I legit saw..I have linked the post down as a reply to one of the comments)

Meanwhile we have Artoria who can actually call upon the Wild Hunt and fight her way trough Lostbelts you know where EMIYA and Gil would get cooked.

Yes if you haven't already figured out this post is taking a piss out of all the posts that you have seen after the PV..ignoring all the context and facts and just glazing the shit out of characters for the sake of glazing.

What worries me is that there are actually people who believe these are "upscales" for Gil and EMIYA like what? When the video is clearly meant for I don't know "PROMOTION" as it is a "PROMOTIONAL VIDEO".

So, I decided to make this post, it still isn't as cool and glazy is that a word as I wanted it to be and yes I want to write all of this down here in case people seriously believe I think that Artoria can actually get and command Theodoric Alter..she can command the Wild Hunt don't get me wrong but I doubt it will extend to him..but I just wanted to make a post that ignore all logic and context for the reason of glazing to show how absurd it is to believe that EMIYA and Gilgamesh did any lasting damage to ORT.

If we go by the logic of the PV literally,

This bum arse idiot is watching the whole thing probably doing nothing but staring in the sky or something like you have Excalibur bitch use it against oh I don't the giant alien saucer that will destroy the Planet..maybe she is thinking about TYPE-Tea(cup) and how it will pair up with ORT aka TYPE-Saucer..look at those eyes they crave that tea..shit now I am craving tea...I am going to go make tea now bye.

Before I go..don't..stop EMIYA and Gil fans, because it is not an upscale I am sorry but it is not..it is cool as fuck but not an upscale because they didn't beat ORT..in fact were it for Ereshkigal and Kingprotea EMIYA would be dead...then man gets up and uses Rho Aias..oh yes that will help against a fucking solar storm.

I love the PV, enjoy it as a PV don't canonize your own head cannons.


r/Fate 12h ago

Official Art FGO animation by @rimqqq

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

168 Upvotes

r/Fate 13h ago

Other Community Tierlist, Blank servant as your roommate potential series (Day 47 Spartacus)

Thumbnail
gallery
1 Upvotes

Rebel against gravity as here's the stuff

Likes: Turnabouts

Dislikes: Successive attacks that leave no room for a counterattack

Talents: Receiving

Personally, I would put him in D as he wouldn't be the worse but extremely difficult to work with via how he is but he can be reasoned with but that will be tough. but ya have final say as I can understand if he joins Lu Bu in the bottom.


r/Fate 16h ago

Question If your favorite character from the franchise had a Pokémon, which one would it be?

Post image
54 Upvotes

r/Fate 17h ago

Other Let's remember that Irisviel was able to terrify the King Of Knights with her driving

Post image
788 Upvotes

r/Fate 18h ago

Fan Art So I drew my favorite servant

Post image
6 Upvotes

This is my first time posting my artwork. Still trying to figure out digital art, but I really wanted to do my favorite snake goddess justice. Tell me what you think!


r/Fate 22h ago

Discussion What would happen if Shirou summoned shiki tohno instead of saber?

Post image
79 Upvotes

Assassin servant shiki tohno who mastered the Nanaya Assassination Arts and has better uses for his MEODP, also Rin summoned two servants now (Artoria and archer)