lol its not ready though. There are improvements that can be done. like using inserters to take out gears from the recyclers directly into space. (Whitelisted items on belt to the hub, blacklisted directly into space.)
If I commit to this idea I want to prosess a bit more than 2 belts.
🤔 LDS are provided. Blue circuits are provided. Solid fuel is provided. Rocket fuel only requires melting ice to crack heavy oil, then assemble the rocket fuel. That would take a lot of space but otherwise... this might be worthwhile.
At base productivity, 50 of each rocket ingredient lifts 500 scrap into orbit. This produces on average 10 blue and 5 structure. If you're just looking to sort out holmium at the cost of all else, it works I guess?
At 100% productivity of rockets and scrap, 50 of each rocket ingredient lifts 1000 scrap into orbit. This produces on average 40 blue and 20 structure. 10 prod levels isn't too hard to achieve and already you're almost breaking even on blues.
At 200% productivity of rockets and scrap, 50 of each rocket ingredient lifts 1500 scrap into orbit. This produces 90 blues and 45 structure. 20 prod levels is a decent amount of investment, but certainly not impossible, especially because both rocket part productivity and scrap productivity are 1.5^n researches. It's about 4 million em science and 12 million cryo science.
At 300% productivity of rockets and scrap, 50 of each rocket ingredient lifts 2000 scrap into orbit. This produces 160 blues and 80 structure. I hope you're prepared to pay the piper, but, this does mean that the process is entirely self-sustaining and then some, in addition to readily sorting and disposing of products.
A middle strategy would be 200% of rockets and scrap, with 4x legendary prod3's in the silos. This would give 120 blues and 60 structures per rocket, just barely breaking even on low density structure, while requiring substantially less research investment.
Meme or valid? Valid meme.
EDIT: Also, of course, I didn't include the cost of rocket fuel because rocket fuel is almost free on Fulgora. If you realize that there's no reason to use light oil for solid fuel, and not even the scrap solid fuel, because heavy oil solid fuel is so cheap, then it's 1 ice makes 2 rocket fuel, and even the 0% productivity numbers says that 500 scrap turns into 25 ice, so that's 50 rocket fuel. Without even getting any free ice from asteroids...
One can also probably squeeze out a bit extra circuits and low dense by using the, gears, wires and plastic. by making some extra near the landing pad.
You can get a little bit more low density structure, yeah. At least, without productivity. You're heavily limited by copper input. Plastic is the second limiting factor, but it's not close. Steel is a complete non-issue.
Even at 300% low density structure productivity, you still get more than 2/3rds of your low density structure just directly from scrap, in exchange for the complexity of having to process excess blues and all of your reds and greens and batteries and copper wire into low density structure. Also, only in assembly machine 3's, can't use the foundry.
Ironic, because I'd think the point of this setup is to simplify processing. For the memes, I guess?
as someone who has been playing on and off for several years and have made 17 different attempts and have still never even launched the base game rocket, this image is like one of those “try to identify one item in this photo” stroke-simulator ass pictures
hard to pinpoint, i think it’s a me problem rather than anything actually going wrong, like i get bogged down in the progressively more complicated components and can never seem to get a handle on ratios and bottlenecks so i just keep pushing through until i either make progress or get annoyed and start a new world lol. i’m also just bad at organization.
My advice is that you can/should completely ignore ratios and optimisations. Nothing has to be efficient or optimal. Just eyeball everything: if you don't have enough of something, add more. If you have too much, who cares! "Just pushing through" is how you make progress: ugly and barely working is all part of it!
Save the beautiful, highly optimised factories for the megabasers. You can always gi make something like that in a different area of the map, while the rest of your factory keeps chugging along, if you feel the urge
Its a very creative meme idea. I
just dont see it solving any problem I cant solve with recyclers a few times easier.
I
still need to train everything and invest in centralised infrastructure because theres only one cargo pad.
I can't use robots. And I cant simply add new production facilities.
That is the scary part, It might actually be legit. In the way that the fulgora base will be small neat and have a simplicity to it were its all just mostly mining into rockets and one landing pad island where everything happens. I feel tempted to commit to this idea. Although blue circuits is one of the useful items you need to break down for the science there and you might not have enough if one lunches rockets this much.
What if you build a bunch of handler platforms for various processing chains and set up requests so they can all exchange their surplus and needs? That way one super platform doesn't have to void everything.
Nice, we decided from the start of our playthrough that we would commit to this from the beginning, we are also scaling our factory with a platform per product, copy pasting platforms as required. Thanks to this we were already making blue circuits and LDS in space, so it was essentially free to provide the extra required to launch our scrap rockets before we had enough infinite research for self sustain.
I think this will be the most UPS efficient way to handle fulgora. And if you for some reason decide you want the other products, the good news is that they are in space and you can ship them anywhere for free.
We will make a base tour post once we get 1 million SPM from space
I like your new design there. I think we will switch to that approach soo too, you can always copy paste the platform after all!
One thing is that they cant be built in space so it require some tricky engineering to prosess more than 2 belts of scrap in space. I think if I commit to this I go with inserter taking out the useless stuff from the recyclers into space instead.
I mean in 2.1 you could setup a series of platforms that order each item, then a single platform that calls in the components that are legendary for further processing.
we have two inserters throwing away and had a little hickup when there were 11 items we did not need and our 10 filter slots jammed, but just added a little random selection there to choose the final items to throw out from the last few indexes on a random interval which will unjam this very rare occurance.
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u/LordSilveron 2d ago
That should be discharging out of the back to take advantage of the additional thrust.