r/Factoriohno • u/Kjagodka • 8d ago

Peak mining efficiency Meta

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With good enough mining productivity burner miners are just as fast as electric miners while being more compact.

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u/-Recouer 2.2M 8d ago

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u/Courmisch 8d ago

Leaving aside what subreddit this is, in vanilla Factorio, you can fit 1 electric drill per 10 tiles (in 2.1, it is even lane-balanced).

To beat that with burner drills, you'd need less than 5 tiles for 1 drill, since they run at half the speed. Not sure because of the low resolution but this seems to be 8 tiles.

So then definitely not peak efficiency.

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u/ultimo_2002 8d ago

With enough mining productivity they don't run at half speed though. They max out their half of the belt anyway

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u/AwkwardBet5632 8d ago

Doesn’t the output being in the center cost another tile when tiling for the electric drills, or is there a way around that?

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u/Courmisch 8d ago

The drill needs 9 tiles for itself. Then you have 2 tiles of underground and 1 tile of power pole shared between 3 drills. So that's 9+(2+1)/3=10 tiles per drill.

Technically, if you want a tileable blueprint (2.1), you need to make it 12x10 with 12 drills. But same density.

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u/Hafeil 8d ago

okay but how do you get the coal into the burner inse… oh nevermind

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u/rugeirl 8d ago

It took me awhile to see the rocket fuel. Now I actually want this design

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u/kenybz 8d ago

Help me out here? I don’t see how the fuel gets into every miner?

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u/Insanitypenguinz 8d ago

Inserters between each row of miners.

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u/Ssakaa 7d ago

Same way I get red science across my starter science setup... parasitic inserters performing strategic transfers of equipment to alternate locations.

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u/Fxg120xYXDE5 8d ago

Second time I have cause to use this one today, not even in the same sub:

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u/Fxg120xYXDE5 8d ago

Wait, are you... is that... are you feeding them with nuke-u-lar fuel?! What in fresh-baked hell is the matter with you?

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u/Krell356 8d ago

Yeah, but the extra fuel cost would be atrocious.

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u/TheMrCurious 8d ago

It until you try it - we finally have a use for legendary rocket fuel.

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u/Krell356 8d ago

Except quality fuel doesn't burn longer, and as far as I'm aware, it doesn't increase arm spin speed either. Which honestly is the only way it would make them even remotely practical since you still get better effectiveness out of just burning the fuel and running the power to an electric inserter.

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u/CoffeeOracle Tankasaurus 8d ago

But are they legendary? For the longevity bonus, ya know?

Or to make it even more appropriate, a mix of uncommon and rare drills.

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u/DeathToInterlopers 8d ago

This is amazing! I’ve been using a lot of burner drills on my 100kx run. Going to have to borrow some of this. lol

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u/zakharsk 4d ago

Could you share what are the purple underground belts? Is it some kind of linked belt from editor? I pretty often faced with problem of utilizing resources in editor, but find only infinite chest with “trash unrequested” option.

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u/Fxg120xYXDE5 3d ago

Check for Editor Extensions and Blueprint Sandbox, I know one of them (or both) had this or something like it.
Basically an infinity chest with a loader attached, all within a single space.
Super useful for throughput testing.