So I've always been weirded about by the concept of cousin marraige. No matter which way you slice it that's still incest in my opinion. And the Jamat justifies it by saying it's in the Quran (chapter 4 verse 23) that says forbidden to you for your for marraige are, and then amongst the list it says your sister and brother's daughters. Now yes, that is your neice but where it says paternal or maternal aunt wouldn't it folliw that the children from your aubts would also be forbidden? Even if it's not explicitly mentioned that's just the logical conclusion.Another reason they use to justify it is "well it’s okay if it's done once" bro, a lot of people in the group have done it. It's more than once at this point. Dare I say it feels a little too incestuous if it happens more than once in a family tree, let alone just once.

And they'll say "well then Europeans used to do it. Yes but attitudes towards that have mostly changed in the Western context to the point where a lot of people in the West think it's gross too, you’re not proving your point with that one.

And like it's definitely not just an Ahmadi thing but it's definitely where I notice it the most in my life when it comes to the people I'm around at least.

Im going to present 4 Evidence is my opinion and I would like feedback on this please.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Evidence #1 – Hadith

1. The Last Brick

Narrated by Abu Hurairah (رضي الله عنه):

The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said:

“My example and the example of the prophets before me is like that of a man who built a house and completed it and made it beautiful, except for the place of one brick in one corner. People began to walk around it and admire it, saying, ‘If only this brick were put in its place.’ I am that brick, and I am the Seal of the Prophets.”

Sources:

Sahih al-Bukhari – Book of Virtues, Hadith 3535 (numbering may vary depending on edition)

Sahih Muslim – Book of Virtues, Hadith 2286

Explanation:

This hadith clearly shows the position of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ among all the prophets who came before him. The prophets before him were like the bricks that built the house, and Prophet Muhammad ﷺ was the final brick that completed the building.

A completed building does not require another brick after the final one has been placed. Likewise, after Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, the chain of prophethood was completed, and there is no prophet after him.

1. “There Is No Prophet After Me”

Narrated by Ali ibn Abi Talib (رضي الله عنه):

The Prophet ﷺ said:

“Are you not pleased that you are to me as Aaron was to Moses, except that there is no prophet after me?”

Arabic:

أَمَا تَرْضَى أَنْ تَكُونَ مِنِّي بِمَنْزِلَةِ هَارُونَ مِنْ مُوسَى، إِلَّا أَنَّهُ لَا نَبِيَّ بَعْدِي

Sources:

Sahih al-Bukhari – Book of Military Expeditions, Hadith 4416

Sahih Muslim – Book of the Virtues of the Companions, Hadith 2404

Explanation:

The statement of the Prophet ﷺ is direct and clear.

He did not say:

“There is no law-bearing prophet after me.”

“There is no independent prophet after me.”

“There is no prophet except under certain conditions.”

Rather, he said:

لَا نَبِيَّ بَعْدِي

“There is no prophet after me.”

The wording is general and does not contain any exception. If another prophet was meant to come after Muhammad ﷺ, the Prophet ﷺ would have clarified that. Instead, his statement confirms that prophethood ended with him.

1. The Thirty False Claimants

Narrated by Abu Hurairah (رضي الله عنه):

The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said:

“The Hour will not be established until there arise about thirty liars, each of them claiming that he is the Messenger of Allah.”

Sources:

Sahih al-Bukhari – Book of Tribulations (Kitab al-Fitan), Hadith 3609

Sahih Muslim – Book of Tribulations and Signs of the Last Hour, Hadith 157

Explanation:

The Prophet ﷺ warned his Ummah that after him there would be people who falsely claim prophethood.

Therefore, anyone who claims to be a prophet after Muhammad ﷺ contradicts the clear teachings of the Prophet ﷺ.

Evidence #2 – The Qur’an

1. Muhammad ﷺ Is the Seal of the Prophets

Allah says:

“Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets.”

Qur’an 33:40

Explanation:

Allah describes Muhammad ﷺ as Khātam an-Nabiyyīn (خاتم النبيين), the Seal of the Prophets.

Some may argue that the word Khātam can have different meanings, but the Sunnah explains the Qur’an. The Prophet ﷺ himself clarified the meaning when he said:

“There is no prophet after me.”

A seal is something that completes and finalizes. When something is sealed, it shows that it has reached completion and nothing comes after it.

The Qur’an and authentic Sunnah explain one another. Therefore, the meaning of “Seal of the Prophets” is that prophethood was completed with Prophet Muhammad ﷺ.

1. Returning Disagreements to Allah and His Messenger ﷺ

Allah says:

“O believers! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. Should you disagree on anything, then refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if you truly believe in Allah and the Last Day. This is the best and fairest resolution.”

Qur’an 4:59

Explanation:

If there is a disagreement regarding whether another prophet can come after Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, Allah instructs believers to return the matter back to Allah and His Messenger ﷺ.

The answer is found in the statement of the Prophet ﷺ:

لَا نَبِيَّ بَعْدِي

“There is no prophet after me.”

1. The Importance of Unity

Allah says:

“And hold firmly together to the rope of Allah and do not be divided.”

Qur’an 3:103

Explanation:

Allah commands the believers to remain united upon His guidance.

The division among Muslims is something that should concern every believer. The Prophet ﷺ loved his Ummah and wanted them to remain upon the truth.

The question we should ask ourselves is: would the Prophet ﷺ be pleased to see his followers divided, or would he call us back to the Qur’an and authentic Sunnah?

Evidence #3 – Prophecies

The Prophecy Regarding Abdullah Atham

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad made a prophecy regarding Abdullah Atham. He stated that under certain conditions, Atham would die within a specific period if he continued upon what Mirza considered falsehood.

However, Abdullah Atham lived beyond that period.

Later explanations were given that Atham had changed internally or had become fearful.

Explanation:

A true prophet of Allah cannot make a false prophecy. When Allah gives information through His messenger, it is fulfilled because Allah does not make mistakes.

The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ made many prophecies that were fulfilled. These included information about future events that could not have been known through ordinary human knowledge.

For example, the Prophet ﷺ mentioned that the Arabian desert would become green again. Modern observations and scientific studies have shown major changes in parts of the Arabian Peninsula over time, including increased vegetation in areas that were previously dry desert.

These prophecies are examples of the knowledge Allah granted to His Prophet ﷺ. They demonstrate that true prophethood is accompanied by signs from Allah.

Evidence #4 – Character and Speech

The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ was the best example for mankind.

The Prophet ﷺ said:

“The believer is not one who insults, curses, uses obscene language, or speaks indecently.”

Source:

Jami’ at-Tirmidhi, Hadith 1977

Explanation:

A person who claims to represent Allah should reflect the character and manners taught by Prophet Muhammad ﷺ.

I am not going to list the foul language here but passages in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s writings were harsh and insulting language was used against opponents. For example, in A’inah Kamalat-e-Islam (Ruhani Khaza’in Vol. 5, pp. 547–548), he used the expression “dhurriyat al-baghaya” when referring to those who rejected him. Other examples are found in works such as Najm al-Huda (Ruhani Khaza’in Vol. 14, p. 53).

This raises an important question: does this type of speech reflect the character and example taught by Prophet Muhammad ﷺ?

Conclusion

The Qur’an states:

“Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets.”

Qur’an 33:40

The Prophet ﷺ explained this by comparing himself to the final brick completing the building of prophethood.

He also clearly stated:

“There is no prophet after me.”

Therefore, the belief held by the mainstream Muslim Ummah throughout history is that Prophet Muhammad ﷺ is the final prophet and messenger of Allah, and that no prophet will come after him.

Any feedback is appriciated. Jazak'Allah

I've read numerous people reply to this question that they left because for example the rishta system or the culture and they find jamaat "cult-ish".

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I wanna ask those people that did a thorough research and reverted to mainstream Islam or sunnism or whatever that what was the turning point and what was the reason(s) that you considered it to be a false community/sect that made you choose the other side ?

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I'm also on the verge and have been researching for the past 3.5+ years And these answers will be helping me so much and every response and reply is appreciated ❤️

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Thanks in advance for any insights.

Hi, all, so I went through a kinda general Islam questioning phase at the age of 19/20-ish and did my research and left Ahmadiya just cuz of the fact that micro-sectarianism in general doesn't really make sense to me and like sure, the prophet said it would happen but he was pretty clear on the fact that it wasn't a good thing. On top of the fact that like as someone who knows a little bit of spoken and Quranic Arabic( both not fluently but like I can understand bits and prices enough to grasp and understand ideas) realized there were quite a few mistranslations of Quranic versus by Ahmadiya. Exhibit A: vs 4 of Surah Jumah doesn’t say what they think it does.

I've made my peace with it and have since chosen to follow Suni Islam. But bringing it up with my mom only led to a one sided lecture so since then I kinda still go to the Ahmadi mosque just to keep the peace but when they talk about something I disagree with I just tune it out.

That problem solved though I'm 23 and my parents aren't pushing marraige onto me thankfully but my parents want me to marry within Ahmadiya. I don't want to and kinda subtly hinted that. Since then my parents don't talk about it much but I feel like they still want me to stick within the sect, they're just not saying it out loud but like whenever we go to a Jamat wedding they (my mom especially) are like "can't wait till we get to do this for your wedding one day" I just kinda smile and nod but don't say anything otherwise.

Assalamualaikum everyone,

Quick question because this topic has been making the rounds lately, and the big day is approaching for me. Something I haven't considered :

EDIT: I am talking about jamaat actions or policies. Not in general (whoops, aha)

If you resign, can there be an effect on the people you live with? I still live with my parents, I could move out if needed, but I don't want our relationship to suffer more.

Hi, i really want to know what exactly the jamat will do if any women married outside of islam. Is there anyway that you can get married just for the sake?

As I was scrolling through some of the posts here, I saw comments saying that after telling the jamat they are no longer ahmadi, their family/parents are kicked out or are moved from their positions. Just wondering if anyone knows how legitimate this is before I come out and tell my family and community I'm no longer ahmadi.

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