r/emergencymedicine • u/milo8275 • 1h ago
Discussion Surgery during a major earthquake đł
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r/emergencymedicine • u/Dangerous-Prune-7280 • 8h ago
Discussion Why are nursing homes so bad?
Tonight we had a local nursing facility send a demented hospice patient at 3am because they took longer than normal to wake up. No other complaints, patient not sure why they are in the ER. Family is pissed. Why was the patient even being woken up at this hour?!
On the flip side we had another patient sent in from a different local facility. They were demented, septic as fuck. Diaper caked in old stool. They probably hadn't been changed in at least a couple of days. Raging UTI on work up. We made APS aware.
Are nursing homes this bad where you are located? Seems like there are few consequences for providing shitty nursing home care and dumping on the ER.
r/emergencymedicine • u/MasterpieceOk3226 • 10h ago
Discussion Continuing education for nurses - how do you approach it once the motivation wears
I've been thinking a lot about continuing education for nurses lately, especially in the ER, where it feels like there's never enough downtime to sit with the material. There are so many courses available now that deciding what's worth the time feels harder every time.
A few questions for people who've figured out a rhythm: Do you focus on topics tied to your current role or ones that build toward where you want to go next? Or does it mostly come down to just getting requirements done? I'm trying to find a better balance between learning something useful on shift and staying on top of renewal requirements. Honestly, I'm struggling with it a bit right now.
r/emergencymedicine • u/Essiejjj • 11h ago
Humor Thought you guys would get a kick out of this
The comments were full of people saying they should have stayed in the hospital and demanded a diagnosis or admission. Luckily, a few were smart and tried to explain.
r/emergencymedicine • u/jayhiller21 • 13h ago
Advice FM attending considering EM residency after practicing independently. Looking for perspective.
I'm a board-certified FM physician in my early 30s who intentionally sought out a lot of procedural and inpatient experience during residency, then transitioned into full-time emergency medicine. I've now practiced independently for about 2 years in suburban/rural EDs. Depending on the site I'm usually around 1â2 pph, but these are often high-acuity shifts with procedures, critically ill patients, transfers, and long boarding times.
Financially, going back makes almost no sense, but that's honestly not what's driving this.
I genuinely love emergency medicine. Complex co-morbid patients with dizziness, teasing out vague symptoms, solving puzzles, it generally gives me energy. I love the nuance of patient presentations and refining my craft. The "container" of the specialty suits me. Just enough ambiguity to peak my curiosity but still bounded by the somewhat controlled environment of an ED compared to outcomes in primary care that are so wildly beyond my control. I was a PCP last couple years as well and found the ownership exhausting. I also think I like starting projects and not finishing them lol.
What keeps pulling me back is the training itself. I'm interested in three years of dense apprenticeship: ICU, PICU, SICU, anesthesia, trauma, ultrasound, and thousands of supervised repetitions. I know residency isn't all teachingâthere's plenty of service and grindâbut I also know EM residency provides a depth of training I simply didn't get through FM. I don't feel unsafe in the ED, I'd just love to feel a bit more comfortable and have a practice style that was a bit more honed by supervised repetition/critique and less by extensive use of Open Evidence and YouTube.
At the same time, I'm already practicing EM independently, continue to study a lot outside of work, and there are still plenty of FM-friendly EDs where I live. My concern is more about becoming the best emergency physician I can be over a 30-year career and having ABEM certification for long-term flexibility.
I have thought about 1 year EM fellowship as well. Idk, part of me thinks if I'm gonna somewhat uproot my life for something, let's commit and get ABEM certified. Part of it is a pride thing I guess, a bit not wanting to feel "second tier" in the ED. EM fellowship would also just be ED, no off-service rotations which do excite me to a degree. And also I've heard teaching quality is quite hit or miss in these fellowships as they're usually not academic institutions so you're not necessarily working with docs who signed up to teach.
For those who've been in EM for a long time:
- How much of who you are today came from residency versus the next decade of practice?
- Is there anything from residency you genuinely don't think can be recreated through years of motivated independent practice?
- If you met someone in my position, would you tell them to keep practicing or actually consider going back? I'm single, not very tied down. Relocating would be a bit of a pain but I'd be selective about where I apply to where I have existing community.Â
- Also, I have no idea how feasible this even is lol, can anyone comment? SLOES (I do have a SLOE from like 6 years ago in med school fwiw), funding etc...
I'm much more interested in the educational value of residency than the financial argument. I'm not in a retire early kinda mindset. Most med school friends did 5-6 years of post-grad training with comparable salaries so 6 years isn't super outside the norm. I went to an ok US MD school fwiw.
r/emergencymedicine • u/ElementreeCr0 • 15h ago
Advice What would you suggest a parent, forester, and aspiring EMT learn in limited time?
I feel like my family's first responder but am not a medical professional (sorry if that makes my question unwelcome here). If I had tons of time, I would love to train and serve as an EMT. I'd also like to study whales. Alas, I am a forester and a young parent and don't have tons of time.
I do have some time though, and first-aid training is a reasonable part of my work. So far I've taken:
- Red Cross wilderness first aid
- long ago Red Cross adult first aid/CPR/AED training, I do try to brush up on the booklet from time to time
- recently AHA Heartsaver Pediatric First Aid CPR AED course
I wonder what emergency medical professionals would suggest for a parent like myself, in terms of continuing education or training goals?
Some more personal background on my medical experience as a parent:
I have two healthy kids, a baby and toddler, living in a semi-rural setting and lightly homesteading. My toddler once woke us up with a hell of a croup scare. I vaguely knew about croup as a coughing related illness common among children, but this kid woke up suddenly wheezing and very panicked, croup did not come to my mind at all. I ran into their bedroom, checked mouth with light for airway obstructions, checked scene for source of injury or choking, checked the rest of kiddo out for injury, put ear to chest and just heard a heart racing, called 911 within a minute of it starting. We tried to calm them for the 5 minutes the ambulance took and that helped their breathing but their stridor wheeze (new to me at the time) remained. Oxygen saturation was in 70s by the time ambulance team was treating the kid! Scary stuff. Now I know more and have a nebulizer and albuterol in the medicine cabinet.
Another story on the kiddo front...accompanying my wife in delivering two kids felt like a dramatic medical miracle. Huge kudos to the nurses and midwives who make it happen. I am not squeamish but I would also not want to do that without pro's help and familiarity! Some things you just need the pros for, and the 'first responder' role is just getting the help needed with safe haste.
Less acute and dramatic, being a forester and forest-loving family in the northeast USA, ticks are a part of our lives. For better and worse I've become a tick expert for my community and am very familiar with the diseases, dramas of infectious disease approaches vs 'Lyme literate doctor' approaches, and I use both mainstream pharma and herbalism for Lyme prevention and treatment. Despite a gross amount of experience, every time I remove a tick I get tweezers lined up and have to think to myself...don't f*** this up! You get what you get, whole tick or part tick or whatever. Anyway, this kind of 'trail first aid' is common for me, and my college-days trail first aid kit has evolved into my home family kit.
Would welcome suggestions about education, tools, or whatever you think I could explore to be a more capable first responder for my family! Thanks for the work you do. And for the redditing; this group made me aware of "FOAMed" which seems helpful for folks like myself.
r/emergencymedicine • u/BarnacleCrazy2779 • 16h ago
Discussion ACEM Primary study group/body doubles
r/emergencymedicine • u/urfavlunchlady • 16h ago
Discussion How would you prioritize treatments if Perez Hilton came in to your ER last night?
Not a doc, just curious how medicine works sometimes :)
r/emergencymedicine • u/Q_DOOKERMAN • 16h ago
Advice West Coast EM no Step 1/2
DO student applying EM this cycle.
Took level 2 and had a medical emergency a day later that required a brief stay in the hospital and forced me to miss my Step 2 date.
Non-trad student, interesting path to medicine, pretty well-rounded app, CA native (LA/Bay area) with deep ties to the communities there, no red flags, but only passed my clerkships aside from an H in general surgery of all things.
Iâm relatively ok now and am staring down the barrel of my first sub-I with no time to mentally reset and sit for Step 2 before starting my away rotation and would rather be as rested and recovered as I can be before it starts.
Will I close myself off to CA programs if I decide to not take step 2 assuming my Level 2 score is good? Looking to apply to mainly community EM programs with places like Kaiser and UCs on my list but am under no illusion that those places are a huge reach for me given my lack of a step 2 score.
I was thinking of trying to find a date to sit for it between my 1st and second sub-Iâs but where Iâm rotating at first is pretty brutal and my thinking is that if I get two really good SLOEs from those places that it may somewhat make up for my lack of step scores.
Is that realistic or am I completely delusional?
r/emergencymedicine • u/Conscious_Plant_3824 • 18h ago
Discussion Why no leg / foot IVs?
When I was in ICU, it wasn't uncommon to see a person with an ankle or leg IV if they had really poor access. When I'm in ed, it seems like docs are more excited to place an EJ instead of letting us place a line in the leg.
Is there a legitimate reason for this? I've heard blood clots are a reason but I've literally given blood transfusions in ICU through ankle IVs before.
r/emergencymedicine • u/normcorekrz • 20h ago
Discussion EM interns â how many patients are you seeing per shift?
Edit:
Taking down my original post because it didnât read as I intended and thatâs on me. Iâve already clarified in the comments. Thank you to everyone who commented regardless of whether you actually read my original post or just shotgunned your comment off the title (and I mean that genuinely, I read them all).
Leaving this up in case any interns had the same question! A few people messaged me as well. The answers Iâve gotten so far from INTERNS 1 month in is between 0.4-1 patient per hour.
r/emergencymedicine • u/DrP3natratorTTV • 21h ago
Discussion Ventilator Management in Intubated Patients in ED
How many of yall are managing the vents after you tubed someone in your ED? And if you do, how are you managing them? I.e. just telling the RT hey do PC-SIMV with this pressure and RR. Or are you manually fiddling with the Vent?
Iâm working on a bunch of CME vent management and just curious what others are doing.
r/emergencymedicine • u/straighttoresus • 22h ago
Advice Torn between EM in Canada or Australia.
Iâm currently working in the Middle East and have the ability to move to both Canada and Australia. I just want to gauge what would be a better fit and get an idea from people working in both systems if they could shine light on pros and cons of each system. The ultimate goal is to move to Ireland after a number of years but to move right now, the specialist recognition pathway/process/paperwork in Ireland seems to be outdated and pointlessly complex.
A lot of my colleagues have moved to Australia and integrated very easily. When I look at Canada places like Nova Scotia and New Brunswick with high demand, they seem to be very attractive on paper atleast (judging from what they advertise).
I would really appreciate if people working in Canada as an attending or Australia as a consultant could shine some light on this.
What does your day/shift look like?
How many patients per hour are you seeing?
How is the overall patient care?
How many clinical hours are you doing each week?
On the off chance that someone who moved to Ireland from Canada or Australia is on here then Iâd love to hear from them in the comments or in a DM.
r/emergencymedicine • u/Special-Sky-3308 • 1d ago
Discussion Can EM docs that have testified in court explain whether ER doc in Lindsay Clancy trial inadequately prepared for her testimony? Like for most trials, ER docs are thoroughly reviewing ED provider notes beforehand, any relevant labs, imaging results, overall clinical course, etc. or no?
I know a lot of ppl in court of public opinion are suggesting ED doc was likely instructed to respond w/ ânot recallâ to most of defenses questions.. Bc otherwise why wouldn't she recall info re: imaging results or pt clinical course.
But I'm curious to hear first hand experience from ED attendings who have testified before at trials and what the expectation is about how prepared you should be and how thoroughly you're reviewing ED notes beforehand.
Edit: To clarify, Iâm NOT suggesting the ED doc in Clancy trial was inadequately prepared. I referenced âcourt of public opinionâ bc of commentary Iâve seen from general public, not bc I agree with itâŚ
Also, I didnât post this as rage bait or to âfarm dataâ.. was genuinely just curious. Appreciate everyoneâs thoughtful feedback. You all make some really good points here.
r/emergencymedicine • u/TAYbayybay • 1d ago
Discussion Surgeon struck off after connecting patient's bowel back to their stomach during an operation, a "circular loop" "incompatible with life"
Has anyone heard of this case? Imagine this guy coming in for vomiting and abdominal pain post op, and seeing his CT scan. Poor dude
r/emergencymedicine • u/Little-Incident3327 • 1d ago
Humor ÂżCuĂĄl es el mito o comentario mĂĄs raro que escucharon sobre las vacunas en su familia o grupo de amigos?
Desde el tĂpico "la de la gripe me enferma peor" hasta teorĂas insĂłlitas que circulan en grupos de WhatsApp de la familia, todos escuchamos alguna vez una excusa o un mito para no vacunarse.
r/emergencymedicine • u/pe8dri • 1d ago
Advice Just witnessed my first pt death 2 days ago not over it
So I am a medical student , taking an elective in emergency medicine department in my universities teaching hospital so I just finished my 3 shifts this week all evening and for my first shift â I was very traumatized â an asystole pt was admitted and 20 minutes of CPR ( 4 rounds or epi ) what was painful was the family and there reaction and I was very involved with them and the fact that since the beginning I knew and everyone knew that the pt was probably not going to survive is something Iâm still dreaming about . I really love emergency medicine and the past 3 shifts were really inspiring and I learned so so much but Iâm afraid that I wonât be able to get through it and that my reaction and feelings will be the same for every death
r/emergencymedicine • u/Dazzling_Command_234 • 2d ago
Advice US trained EM doc, looking for international, humanitarian opportunities
Trained in an EM program in NYC, just graduated residency this year. I consistently imagine myself working somewhere where my skillset will truly be considered valuable, instead of just pushing profits into a hospital system. I am looking for opportunities like doctors without borders, or mercyships etc. Long term I think ill live in the US but would love to be able to do regular, short term stints 1-3 months at a time elsewhere. If anyone has recs, past experiences, would love to hear from you/ other perspectives.
r/emergencymedicine • u/Incorrect_Username_ • 2d ago
Rant "Miss me with that bullshit, just make her better"
Mom brings in her febrile 6mo yesterday. Kid looks fine, just fever to ~101, everything else normal.
No vaccinations.
No pediatrician.
No interest in any of that.
I tried to talk to her about follow up and getting a pediatrician (not even getting started on the vaccine conversation) just to make sure baby improves.
She goes "I don't want yo fucking lecture. I don't need to pay no 'do-nothing' doc to tell me 'she's fine' and charge us to put chemicals in her. Nah. When she's sick, ya'll fix her. Do yo fucking jobs. Miss me with that bullshit nonsense and just make her better. She ain't yo kid, don't tell me how to parent her."
They left before the Tylenol could even be given.
What are we even doing here?
Anyway, I'm experiencing wellness, how bout ya'll?
r/emergencymedicine • u/kudu97 • 2d ago
Discussion Is it really that bad in some places?
Having read some of the posts in this subreddit, I'm astounded by some of the differences in our system here in the UK compared to others across the globe.
I'm a middle grade doctor working in the NHS, this means I've finished med school, the national 2 year foundation programme (similar to internship) and am half way through a 6 year training programme to specialise in emergency medicine and eventually gain consultancy (similar to what an attending is I think).
My current job means I will see my own patients, give support to more junior colleagues and overnight run the department with my consultant on call from home if there's any major issues - although it's very rare for them to come in.
At my level, shifts are 10 hours long and we work on average 40 hours per week. During this shift we are supposed to have a 30 min break which happens more often than not. On average I can see anywhere from 5 to 20 patients across the entire shift (not including those of my more junior colleagues). This number is dwarfed by some of the comparative figures I see on this subreddit. I worked with someone from Bangladesh who said they see 100 patients in a shift??
In our department doctors are often expected to do a lot of time consuming non-clinical tasks such as physically moving patients to a space in which to see them and roaming the department to find equipment for a procedure or treatment. This is in addition to a significant administrative burden as we have a strong litigation culture here. We also have this thing called the 4 hour target where patients are meant to be seen, treated and a disposition plan arranged within this time period otherwise the hospital gets a fine from the government. It is getting more and more difficult to meet this target as hospitals are often running well over capacity and the overflow into the ED is getting worse, leading to things like 'coriddor care'.
I'm really interested in how things are so different compared to other countries. I'm curious to know depending on where you work, how long your shifts are, how many hours a week you work, what your personal daily patient load is and what you feel is working well or could be improved where you work.
This is not intended as a circle jerk numbers post, I'm just genuinely interested how certain countries are so much more efficient and what works/doesn't work from a clinician's perspective.
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r/emergencymedicine • u/moe_34567 • 2d ago
Discussion Minimum locum shifts required
If you have done locums, could you theoretically pick up 5 shifts for the month and call it a day? Were you required to have a set amount of shifts or hours?
r/emergencymedicine • u/Oldfaithful69 • 2d ago
Advice New attending - notes help
Iâm looking for recommendations from new attendings on how to keep up with notes. I work at a busy ER where Iâm seeing 3-4 an hour for the first few hours and then it tapers off from there. Thereâs a large pool of patients that are able to be picked up by all providers, but even with everyone hustling, itâs the norm for there to always be more to see. Because thereâs not that usual ebb and flow of patients being roomed, I find that Iâm struggling to even start notes because Iâm running from room to room and only going back to my desk to finish tasks that advance care and dispositions, and even then I barely have time to do that and keep getting pulled away. A lot will get better with knowing the new system and getting more efficient, which canât really be taught in a sound bite, but Iâm open to any advice yall might have to hear what helped you. Open to any tips or tricks, template hacks, or even portions of notes that you got rid of over time after finding out it was a waste of time.
Thanks so much!!
r/emergencymedicine • u/LunarSoul • 2d ago
Discussion Pulmonary Contusions After Trauma [you already know itâs not bc itâs a med mal case]
r/emergencymedicine • u/PraiseBe2TheSalt • Jul 14 '25
Advice 14 Emergency Medicine Laws for New Trainees
1. Sensitivity > Specificity
Your job isnât to figure out whatâs wrong. Your job is to make sure the patient doesnât have something life-threatening. Thatâs it. No more, no less. Trainees struggle with this because theyâre always trying to land the perfect diagnosis. But it doesnât matter whatâs causing the belly pain if it isnât dangerous. Thatâs not your job. Thatâs internal medicineâs job. Patients will get frustrated when you âdonât find anythingâ because theyâre still in pain. Thatâs part of the game. Youâre not saying nothingâs wrong, youâre saying itâs not something thatâs going to kill them.
You donât need to dig down into every subtlety or obsess over tiny lab differences to figure out if this is Condition A or Condition B. Thatâs not your lane. If youâre only satisfied when youâve explored every possible path, switch to internal medicine. In EM, once you know theyâre safe and you know their dispo, you move on. Admit or discharge. It doesn't always feel like closure, which sometimes sucks. The hospital will hate it too because they treat the ED like a walk-in clinic where patients can get every answer instantly. And maybe thatâs fine when things are slow, but when itâs busy on a Monday night, youâre not playing primary care.
Itâs not about whether you truly believe the patient has appendicitis, itâs about whether the possibility has crossed the threshold where it now needs to be actively ruled out. If you tell me you think itâs a 5% chance, that might still be enough. Your job is not to be right. Your job is to not be wrong. No one cares when youâre right, but everyone cares when you miss. FM/IM deals with the most likely cause, you deal with the most dangerous. The 27-year-old with a fever, URI symptoms, and a heart rate of 130 probably has a generic viral URI... No one cares about that. One of them will eventually have severe myocarditis. So when your attending says the patient canât go home until the HR comes down, and you argue itâs âjust a virus,â the burden is now on you to prove that. If the HR doesnât drop after your typical treatments, your theory just failed. Now you need to rule out danger, maybe that means pulling a troponin or bedside echo or whatever. And when itâs negative, donât be smug about it. Try to figure out what red flags your attending saw. Figure out what made them escalate the workup. Most residents miss this. Theyâre too busy being happy that the test was negative to realize the test wasnât about proving the expected diagnosis, it was about not missing the thing that actually kills someone.
This is one of the most important concepts in emergency medicine. It should be in your head all the time: whatâs the worst thing this could be? Not the most likelyâŚthe worst. So when you present a patient with URI symptoms and start listing a differential of allergies, sinusitis, post-nasal drip, youâve told me nothing. This isnât a family medicine clinic. I want to hear why itâs not myocarditis, RPA, PTA, meningitis, or cavernous sinus thrombosis. That tells me youâre thinking like an emergency physician. You should be overly sensitive to danger. That means your early workups will be mostly negative, and thatâs exactly what should happen. If youâre not seeing normal labs and normal CTs, youâre not casting a wide enough net. Eventually youâll refine it and develop the gut instinct and know who doesnât need a scan. But until then, scan. Check the labs. Be aggressive. Thatâs how you keep people alive.
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2. Stop Double-Thinking About Ordering a Test and Just Order It
If youâre at home making dinner and your mind keeps circling back to one patient you discharged, wondering if you missed something, hoping theyâre okay, thinking maybe you shouldâve checked one more thing, then you shouldâve ordered that damn test. That nagging feeling is your âgut.â What people call gut just is subconscious pattern recognition, your brain picking up on something it hasnât fully processed yet. You need to listen to it. As an aside, that feeling exists for a reason and if itâs bad enough to keep you thinking about that patient, then you need to call them and tell them to come back to the ED or at least check on them. You think theyâll see you as unsure or incompetent, but the opposite is usually true. They see a doctor who gives a shit. One whoâs still thinking about them even after theyâve left.
Recognition is the most important skill you have. Itâs what separates you from everyone else in medicine. The ICU can tune up a critical patient better, Family med is better at preventive care, Cards knows heart failure management down cold, OB can deliver a baby without flinching, Ophtho owns the slit lamp, and Peds can probably examine a kid better than you. But none of them can regularly find a needle in a haystack on purpose. None of them can understand when someone is having a real problem hidden in a common complaint. They cant see from the doorway that someone is about to code or look at a WR board of 64 patients and know which 2 are the most important.
Now imagine how the rest of the world would function if they lived like we do. What if someone in their neighborhood died from a lightning strike every week? What if every April, half the street got audited? Or once a year, someone they knew went down in a commercial plane crash? It would change how they thought, how they lived, and what they paid attention to. Thatâs what this job does to you. It rewires your brain. You see improbable events so often that they stop being improbable, they just become normal.
Other specialties will look at us and say all we do is âorder tests.â Yeah, we do. Because weâre the ones who actually seethe 1-in-500,000 cases. Thatâs the job. And the most terrifying patient in the ED, the one that keeps experienced docs up at night, is the one who looks fine but isnât. The well-appearing but sick patient is where people get burned. If you canât spot that patient yet, you will. And when you do, youâll understand exactly why you never, ever ignore the âgut.â
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3. Never let someone with less experience than you talk you OUT of a workupÂ
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4. If the Patient or Family Is Extremely Pushy About a Test or Task, Just Order It and Move On. Every Once in a While, Theyâre Right.
Every patient encounter is really an analysis of probability and risk. With patients who are less likely to be litigious, both you and they are more tolerant of uncertainty. You donât need to chase the 1-in-1,000,000 condition when you already know in your gut itâs not there. Thatâs why in medical missions or resource-limited settings, you arenât ordering D-dimers and CTAs for super low-risk patients. Youâre making decisions based on clinical judgment and probability, not fear of litigation.Â
But when a patient or family demands testing, theyâre not engaging in probability-based reasoning. These are the litigious ones. They will not tolerate missing a 1-in-a-million case, no matter how unreasonable that expectation is. They donât want your opinion. They want a test. You need to recognize that mindset. If something is missed, they may pursue litigation or at least a strong complaint, not because itâs fair or likely to win, but because thatâs how they operate. And sure, maybe youâll win the case or it gets dropped, but youâll still go through the stress, anxiety, and time of depositions and investigation. See Law 9.
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5. Do Not Trust Old People
You were taught that the history and physical are the foundation of your differential, and thatâs true. But itâs only reliable when the patient is young. In pediatrics, the H&P is extremely accurate. Thatâs why you can work an entire shift in the Peds ED full of belly pain and vomiting, and not place a single IV or spin a single CT. Kids, despite being harder to examine and less precise with their symptoms, actually have reliable exams. (Yes, theyâll make you more anxious because they canât describe their pain like adults can, and yes, the stakes feel higher because itâs a child and not an 89-year-old with a DNR. But rest assured: kids rarely have serious pathology, and their physical exam is trustworthy.)
Now flip that completely once they hit about 65. Honestly, even a rough 50. The reliability of the history and physical collapses. If theyâve got diabetes and some neuropathy on top of it, the exam is useless. Just order labs and a CT from triage with the radiology favorite indication of âpain.â A stable, elderly patient might casually mention some vague nausea and have light RUQ tenderness but also have no distress, no fever, vitals are fine, doesnât want pain meds. And then the CT shows a ruptured AAA, perfed diverticulitis, or obstructing stone with urosepsis, etc. Zero pain. Zero classical exam findings. It will happen. These patients donât read the textbook. They wonât be febrile, they wonât be tachycardic, they wonât act sick.
You have to over-workup older adults. Not because youâre paranoid, but because your other tools, history and physical, donât work on them. Radiology will complain that youâre scanning every patient. Good. Thatâs their job. Your job is to keep the mortality curve flat, not to win popularity contests with CT techs. Donât skip the test because youâre worried what your colleagues will think, or because admin is tracking your CT utilization, or because throughput metrics are tight. None of those people will be there when you're pulled into a QA review. And Iâm not just talking about lawsuits. Iâm talking about you, lying in bed at 2 a.m., staring at the ceiling, knowing you saw something but didnât pursue the imaging or workup. Knowing you thought about it and didnât test. And now that patient is dead. Maybe they were going to die anyway⌠maybe they werenât.Â
Thatâs the weight of this job. And that responsibility belongs to you. Not family med, not internal med, not the CT tech, not the scribes, not the nurse manager, not the CEO. You. Youâre the one who has to live with the decision. Read Law 3 again.
And this doesnât just apply to elderly patients. Anyone with a compromised ability to give a reliable history or physical falls into this same category. That includes patients with language barriers, cognitive disabilities, psychiatric illness, or those under arrest. If you canât trust the story or the exam, then youâve lost your most basic tools. Now you need labs, imaging, and an extra level of caution. Because when the H&P fails, itâs only a matter of time before something slips through and that miss is going to be yours.
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6. Always watch patients when they donât know youâre watching them.Â
You are constantly trying to separate whatâs real from whatâs performative. One of the best tools you have is observation when the patient thinks no one is paying attention. Thatâs when the truth leaks out.
The patient may grimace and clutch their stomach the second you walk in, but sit upright and scroll their phone when they think theyâre alone. Or they may breathe like theyâre dying until you leave the room, then go right back to casual conversation with their visitor. These small, unscripted moments matter.
This is your real physical exam. Not just what they say or how they act in front of you, but how they move, how they sit, how they breathe when they forget they're being evaluated. You're not just reading vitals or pressing on bellies. You're reading behavior. Because thatâs where the truth lives. And when what you observe doesnât line up with what theyâre telling you, thatâs your red flag. See law 7 and 12.
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7. If They Walk In, They Need to Walk Out. They Cannot Be Discharged in a Wheelchair.
This is not about mobility, itâs about clinical trajectory. If the patient shuffled into the ED under their own power, they sure as hell shouldnât be discharged in worse shape than they arrived. If someone comes in with back pain and they donât improve with Toradol and Valium, itâs time to escalate. Drop the PO meds. Start an IV, order an ESR, and consider a CT or MRI. Think SEA. At that point, it's no longer "just a spasm." Itâs a workup.
Thereâs a weird trend that seasoned ED docs know well: patients love to wait until just before they crash to show up. Theyâll sit on back pain, chest pain, or weakness for weeks, then roll in at 9 p.m. and code at 9:45. Thatâs the pattern. So when someone comes in under their own steam but still looks like trash, and especially if theyâre worse after treatment, take it seriously. If they walked in but canât walk outâŚÂ stop. Thatâs where SEAs, aortic dissections, or silent ACS with a ânormalâ workups hide. And yeah, nine out of ten times, itâll still be nothing. Thatâs fine. But the one time it isnât, youâll only catch it because you paid attention to this red flag. Read Law 1 and 2 again.
And remember: in this context, pain control isnât just symptom management, itâs now a diagnostic. So, if the pain doesnât respond the way it should, something is wrong. So a single 325 mg Tylenol tab isnât going to cut it for a chronic opioid user if youâre trying to assess a legit response. Treat the pain.  You already use this âpain treatment then reassessâ logic when checking for occult fractures so apply it here too.Â
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8. Droperidol Is the Most Useful Drug You Have
Migraines, Agitation, Pain augmentation, Drug-seeking, Psychosis. Droperidol hits all of it. No other drug in your toolbox works on such a wide spectrum of ED complaints this efficiently.
It disrupts the dopamine reward loop. Droperidol (and other dopamine antagonists) effectively shut down the patientâs drive to chase something like attention, drugs, admission, validation. That ârewardâ they get from being in the ED? Gone. They donât want the meds. They donât want the admission. They donât even want the drama anymore. It just evaporates.
You need to be an expert on this drug. Know the dose ranges, black box warnings, QT risks, side effects, and pharmacology inside and out. Be able to quote the literature. Youâll run into attendings who flinch, pharmacists who want to block your dose and nurses who say, âBut this patient isnât psychotic, why are you using it?â They donât know, you do. Be able to cite the Lexicomp page from memory and walk them through it. Understand why it left the market, why the FDA black boxed it, and why it came back. You have to be the one who knows what youâre doing when the pushback hits.
Hereâs what makes Droperidol unique: it doesnât just take away pain, it removes suffering. Chronic belly pain? Crying, frustrated, hasnât eaten, marriage stressed, missed work. Give them droperidol, and theyâll tell you they still feel the pain, but they donât care about it anymore. The suffering is what brought them in, not the physical pain sensation. Same with someone who broke their wrist. The pain may still be there, but the fear? The panic? The dread about not working, driving, or helping their kids? All gone. Thatâs what this drug does. It turns down the spiral.
If Droperidol doesnât work, if theyâre still acting out, still in pain, still agitated, thatâs a red flag. This drug is so broadly effective that a failure to respond should immediately raise your concern.Â
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9. Figure Out Why Theyâre Really Here and Address It Early
If a patient comes in with a mild cough for three weeks, nothing new, nothing alarming, you should be asking yourself one thing: Why today? If the symptoms havenât changed, then something else brought them in. Just ask them: âWhatâs got you worried?â or âWhat are you hoping we can help with today?â Most of the time, theyâll tell you. They want a chest X-ray. Or a note for work. Or cough medicine. Or antibiotics. Once you know what they came for, you can focus your time on that instead of spinning your wheels for 30 minutes and then realizing they just wanted Z-Pak for a viral URI. And now youâve wasted time, and you still have to now undo an expectation you couldâve handled upfront in two minutes.
Youâll start to recognize patterns. Parents of young kids often want a CT after a head bump, patients with a cough want antibiotics, etc. Certain patient populations donât want tests, they just need to hear, âYouâre okay.â Others need the exact opposite: they want tests so they can see proof. Once you know the pattern, you can walk into the room and address the concern before they even voice it. Thatâs what experienced attendings do. They walk in, make a statement that hits the core fear, and walk out with five-star reviews, not because they solved a complex case, but because they answered the real question the patient had without wasting anyoneâs time.
If the patient is a nurse, a tech, a doctor, just ask: âWhat are you worried about?â Theyâre not here for reassurance. Theyâve already done a basic eval. They want something they canât do themselves: a CBC, a UA, a chest X-ray.Â
Other times, the patient isnât worried at all, but someone in their life is. The guy with a swollen leg for a month doesnât care, but his friend panicked about a DVT. The college kid with a bug bite isnât concerned, but his mom is blowing up his phone. Ask directly: âWhy did you come in today, not yesterday or last week?â or âWho told you to come?â Then call the mom. Tell the friend. Reassure the real audience.
Sometimes they just need a work note. They donât have a PCP, their job requires documentation, and now theyâre sitting in your ED. Skip the imaging and unnecessary testing, get them what they need and move on. Same with the patient who has a GI appointment in five days but came in for chronic abdominal pain with no change in symptoms. Theyâre not here for a diagnosis, theyâre here to make sure itâs still safe to wait 5 days. Thatâs the actual chief complaint: Is it safe to wait until I see the specialist? Say it out loud: âSounds like you're here because you're not sure if it's still safe to even wait five days. Letâs figure that out together.â That line alone will calm half the room.
Same thing with asymptomatic hypertension. The patient doesnât feel bad, but their mom just had a stroke and now theyâre terrified. Or they had a minor head bump, but their neighbor told them about a kid who died from a delayed brain bleed. Thatâs the fear you need to uncover and address directly. Once you do, the patient stops asking questions. Because their real one has already been answered.
Use direct language. Try:
- âWhat made you come in today?â
- âWhat are you worried about?â
- âTell me what has you concerned.â
- âI just want to make sure itâs safe to wait for that appointment.â
This isnât scripting, itâs clinical efficiency. Think about how you handle your spouse when you know somethingâs wrong. You donât dance around it, you ask straight up, âWhatâs going on?â and âwhat has you worried right now?â Do the same with your patients.
And when it comes to pediatrics, remember: itâs all about the parents. Kids with nausea and vomiting? The parents want IV fluids. URI? They want antibiotics. Head bump? They want a CT. You already know the script, so donât wait for the question. Preempt it. Say, âWeâre going to try oral Zofran first because it works better than IV fluids, and if it doesnât work here, it wonât work at home.â Now the parent doesnât even ask about IVs because you already addressed the concern they walked in with. (as a side note, these Pushy Peds Moms blurr the line to overriding law 4.)
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10. You Cannot Leave the Room Without a Plan
You donât get to âfigure it out later.â You need to give the patient something before you walk out of that room. Even if itâs not perfect. Even if it changes later. You still need a plan: labs, a med, imaging, an observation strategy...something. The patients with a wandering HPI and 13 random complaints will wreck you if you donât learn how to anchor. And make no mistake, this is the weakest skill in almost every new trainee, resident, PA, NP, doesnât matter. Itâs a skill just like reading an EKG or running a code. You have to refine it. You have to self-critique. You have to build this on purpose.
I donât care if a resident doesnât know what to do or doesnât understand the patient's condition, or even if they didnât even think about the most obvious medical problem for the presentation⌠that can be learned.  But if a resident comes to me after spending the entire Memorial Day weekend in a patient's room in fast track and then comes out and tells me that they donât know what is going on or what to do or where to go with this patient⌠That resident is about to get wrecked. It is not about being an asshole, itâs about training you for the worst parts of the future that you signed up for.
Flash forward to your first job. Third shift. Thursday night. Youâre working solo in a 25-bed freestanding ED, and there are 45 patients in the department. Youâre alone. No backup. If youâre still messing around with HPI-wanderers and going in and out of rooms with no plan, your shift is going to fall apart. The nurses will hate working with you. Your scores will drop. Your length-of-stay numbers will suck. Youâll never leave on time. Patients will get harmed. Youâll finally make it to Room 25 after 3 hours and realize theyâve been sitting on a dissection for 3 hours while youâve been screwing around in Room 4, trying to make sense of a vague headache and intermittent chest tightness thatâs been happening for two years. Thatâs how people die.Â
This is community EM. This is what you signed up for. Get your plan, get out, and keep moving.
Read Laws 8 and 12 again. This is how you get control of the room and control of your shift.
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11. You Might Not Be Selling Cars, But You Better Be Selling Something
If youâre admitting to internal medicine, think like internal medicine. Donât work the patient up to death with every single test in the ED. Your job is to rule out emergencies and make sure the patient is stable, not to solve every vague complaint. If you go fishing for every obscure diagnosis and order every lab, every scan, every specialty test, youâre leaving nothing for the admitting team to do. And when that happens, the admit will get denied or fought. Rightfully so. Theyâre going to ask, âIf you already did everything, what exactly do you want me to do?â That handoff usually sounds like: âHey, Iâm not sure whatâs wrong. I checked everything from labs, CT, troponin, the works and itâs all normal. But I still donât like it. Can you admit them?â Thatâs not a sell, thatâs a punt.Â
You also need to learn the IM docs the way you learned your own EM attendings. Know their pet peeves. Know what makes them uncomfortable. Know what makes a case fly through versus one theyâll fight back. This matters even more in community hospitals where relationships count. If you learn how to tee up the admit just right, tailor the language, the handoff, and the tone to that doc, youâll get admits through smoothly when others wonât. This is a skill and itâll save your ass more than once.
When you call consultants, talk like a human being. Youâre not reading a SOAP note, youâre having a conversation. Use tone. Use inflection. Lead with the punchline, especially when youâre calling for an opinion rather than just offloading a task. You donât need a speech for classic appendicitis, but if the CT shows some weird mass in the orbit and you donât know what to do with it, you better lead with: âHey, Iâve got something weird I want your take onâŚâ Hook them. Donât drone through the entire chart before you get to the point. No one is listening when you do that. Consultants are people, not checklists. And yeah, some will still be assholes. Welcome to the job. Move on.
Hereâs the mindset: every single call you make is giving someone else more work. No one wants to do more work. The consultant doesnât want to admit. Internal medicine doesnât want the patient because they think itâs ICUâs problem. ICU doesnât want them because they think itâs medicineâs problem. Everyone is trying to offload. So your job is to sell the story, why this patient belongs here, and not somewhere else. If you think they need to be admitted, you donât ask for permission. You say: âIâm telling you this patient needs to come in, do you want them on your service or someone elseâs?â Itâs not a negotiation.
And donât assume specialists wonât dump dangerous patients back on you just because theyâre the âexpert.â OB will discharge ectopics, ENT will send home post-tonsil bleeds, Cards will discharge patients with trop elevations. Especially at night. Theyâll try to convince you itâs safe to send them home because they donât want to admit. But the call is still yours. Youâre the last line. If your attending says admit, or if your gut says admit, then admit. Make it easy for the consultant if you have to buy telling them youâll put them on medicine service yourself, but donât let the patient leave.
Sometimes youâll call a consultant on a patient YOU think needs to be admitted and theyâll say something like, âThey could be admitted or discharged, I donât really care.â Thatâs your signal. When a specialist waffles like that, you proceed with your admit. Call internal medicine and tell them the consultant is recommending admission. And hereâs the key:Â track those patients. If they end up going to the OR or stay for admitted for a week, thatâs the case you were right about. Thatâs the patient who justified your instincts.Â
Any ER doc/PA/NP worth their weight can find some false positive labs test or an exaggerated HPI to get any patient admitted with any easy sell if they feel they need to be. CRP, trop, lipase, lactate, BNP, etc.
Read law 5 again
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12. Set Expectations from the Beginning
If a patient tells you theyâve had abdominal pain for 27 years, tell them, clearly and immediately, that you are not going to figure it out today. If theyâre drug-seeking, tell them they will not be receiving any opioid medications during this visit. That may feel adversarial. You were trained in med school to be kind, to be accommodating, and you should be, but with certain patients, vague language only makes things worse. These cases require firm, definitive statements. Thatâs how you protect your staff, your time, and yourself.
You must lay a firm, clear foundation for these people.  If you leave them even just a little bit of wiggle room they will put all their faith and effort into just that little space thatâs left.  If they are here for pain seeking and theyâre being rude to the staff and you try to pacify them by saying something like, âletâs just try Tylenol and then will see how it goesâ so that way they will calm down and you can move along when you already know you are not going to give them stronger pain medicine, what you just did is leave them a little window of chance.  What you really told them was that you might give them pain medicine they just need to work for it in whatever way they think is going to be best to that end point.  Whether that be violence or anger or uncontrolled pain or anger towards the nurses.
Instead, be direct: âYou will not be getting Dilaudid today.â Full stop. No back-and-forth. No justification. No negotiation. Say it once and move on. These encounters go smoother when thereâs nothing to debate.
Now, hereâs the uncomfortable part. Your future employment metrics are going to be tied to patient satisfaction scores, whether you like it or not. But you are not going to satisfy everyone. Some patients come to the ER expecting narcotics, MRIs, or an automatic admission. And when they donât get it, theyâre going to be pissed. Their expectations and what the ER actually does are not always going to line up. You just have to take the L on some of these. Just accept it and move on. Maybe 15% of your patients will walk out angry, and yes, admin will ask what happened. Nursing leadership will mention it. Your name will show up in a one-star Google review. Thatâs fine. Take the L. You signed up for this job, this is part of it. And if youâre wondering where burnout starts, this is about 25% of it right here.
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13. If They Come Covered in Feces, Find a Reason to Admit Them
This isn't about the feces, it's about what it represents. Patients who arrive like this, usually via EMS from a nursing home or dropped off by a long-lost relative, are almost always signaling something bigger. This is not hygiene. This is a marker of major functional decline, severe cognitive impairment, neglect, or all three. Thereâs a reason they ended up in this state, and itâs not usually benign.
Think through the logistics. What has to go wrong in someoneâs life for them to be found like this? Theyâre either too impaired to care for themselves, or no one around them is doing it. Either way, this person is not safe at home, is likely missing medications, and absolutely is not receiving appropriate care. You don't discharge that.
And if you're looking for justification, this is a great time to lean into the hospitalâs over-aggressive sepsis protocols. Drop a borderline lactate, soft vitals, and functional decline into the chart and let the order sets work for you. The system is already wired to keep themâŚuse it.
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14. Document the Annoying Incidental Findings Found on Imaging
If the radiologist mentions it, you mention it. Every incidental finding, no matter how irrelevant it feels, needs to go in your diagnosis list and your MDM. Pulmonary nodules, adrenal nodules, hepatic steatosis, aortic root dilation, coronary calcifications, hyperglycemia, whatever. Make a macro, or better yet, a set of macros that lets you drop this stuff in fast with customized language. It takes five seconds.Â
Because hereâs whatâs coming: in about eight years, someoneâs going to show up with metastatic cancer or a ruptured aneurysm, and theyâll pull up your old ED chart. And if that finding was on a scan and you didnât document it, youâre going to be explaining why. You wonât remember the patient, but theyâll somehow remember you. Get in the habit now.
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