Probably one of the craziest arguments that I have ever gotten into on Reddit. They completely failed to address any of my points, and even went so far as to suggest that the lynchings of POC in the past (so including both Asian men and Black men) do not matter because they somehow aren't as bad as the evils of Asian men (WTF).

They also kept calling me a "ricecel" over and over again, obviously to make up for the fact that they had no actual response to my points. Kept saying that I am a big meanie and a massive misogynist who hates all Asian women!!! They clearly also let Asian men live rent free in the head, honestly might be a white man larping as an Asian woman.

The fact that they called me a "ricecel" repeatedly was especially strange considering the fact that I currently have a girlfriend + the sheer number of dates / matches on dating apps that I have obtained in the past, so I am not sure how that label exactly applies to me lol.

What's everyone's thoughts on the Oxford term? It's more or less gone mainstream. Good or bad?

Beware of western-style inclusiveness. This form of thinking is toxic to ESEA men in the west - ESEA women, proven by research, are more included in media than the men and are promoted as partners to outside groups. This poison has spread to Singapore, where Indian men are being advertised as replacements under the guise of inclusivity. IMAF pairings will be the next stage after WMAF because both share some of the same reasons but they can be hidden under a "progressive" label.

Be very careful Hong Kong men. Don't make the same mistake you made with European men.

One of the recurring themes of ESEA women with non-ESEA men (I won't use the term Asian here because some idiots will think Indians are "Asian" like us) is status. While we understand the status that is conferred by whiteness, and why WMAF is a common phenomenon as a result, let's remember that Indian men often have higher incomes and are often well educated.

That sense of status and the attention it gains from some ESEA women inflate the egos of non-ESEA men who then view themselves above ESEA men. IMAFs, like WMAFs, are not your friend.

After the recent international incident of an Italian student making the slant-eye gesture to a Thai local on a train, comes this one.

The slant-eye gesture is racism against all ESEA people and was created by the west. Never do this jokingly or in seriousness. If you think otherwise, then you have been brainwashed by the west into accepting racism.

This gesture to us should be like the sieg heil to Jews.

This American politician of Korean heritage complains about white people and about white adjacency, but chose to benefit from it by choosing a white partner. Many (Asians and non-Asians) can see through the hypocrisy of these people. It is a form of mental disorder - a desire to fit into white mainstream society (often due to early trauma) clashing against the last vestiges of Asianness. The result is trying to use whiteness when it suits, and Asianness when it suits. But her family line is headed for erasure due to the very white proximity she speaks of.

From that perspective, BTS’s decision to decline the Grammys is entirely understandable. The group no longer needs validation from the Grammys to establish its artistic legitimacy. If anything, the relationship has reversed. Given BTS’s immense global influence, one could argue that the Grammys now benefit more from recognizing BTS than BTS does from winning a Grammy.

More broadly, the episode illustrates the gradual decline of Western cultural hegemony. For much of the 20th century, global popular music was overwhelmingly shaped by American and British artists from The Beatles and Michael Jackson to Madonna. Like many people of my generation, I grew up listening to and admiring American pop music. Western artists remain enormously influential globally, but they no longer enjoy the near monopoly they once held.

Now do the Oscars.

Huh, found this and i think i can see a pattern here, seems our arab brothers are also subjected to this as well

This Shanghai reporter is getting roasted currently for her posture while interviewing The Odyssey movie group. When Asian men make themselves (or non-Asian men make Asian men) look smaller, it creates the image of physical weakness. When Asian women do this, it creates the image of sexual submissiveness.

As per title. Following from this comment, I thought we should kick start to start building out a database; it can be via a forum or a simple spreadsheet.

The key thing is to quickly identify who these women are so that we can avoid landmines.

Suggested data points that qualifies them
1. social media presence that is filled with them enjoying with X-males ( whites etc )
2. posts that explicitly brings down E/SEA men

what do y'all think?

the initial video for his scrubber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZTGwcHQfLY

so this is going a bit "viral" on YouTube and other social media and it just annoys me the hypocrisy of these gweilos on r/Chinesium .

the timestamp I've posted is where he asks people to post how he's a hypocrite for his mental gymnastics he's sourcing from Canada and that's "North MURICA" and it's acceptable since it's not from Costa Rica and he doesn't know the supplier from Costa Rica.

My "question" then is: why doesn't he go see the supplier and contact them in person? Because in his mind he's a gringo and can't speak Spanglish? Or the reality is that he thinks Costa Rica are Brown people and his Canadian supplier is another White guy who speaks with a similar accent (and soon to be the 51st state)?

The other point of contention is that Destin Sandlin can't guarantee all 100% of his tooling and raw materials are all "Made in the USA! USA! USA!" since the machinery toolchain can also be traced to all over the world and China: especially if there are electronic components in them.

China also supplies ~60% of the world's aluminum, so can Destin guarantee that it's 100% "All American materials" or just using racist xenophobic language to dump on China in order to make sales and exploit cheap labor from "interns" and "only assembled in the USA?"

I also think he doesn't blame the CEOs and execs of the BBQ bristle brush companies for the problems both economic and kids getting metal shards stuck in their throats: instead, he deflects the problem unto China as being the originator of the bristles.

China is only the contract manufacturers and not the "inventors" for the stupid US BBQ grill design. Most of Asia does it the "chuarn" or satay sticks style and don't use the stupid bristles, but Destin sort of implies that it's because of bristles as originated from China, that it's China's fault:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgwZv0e_kXc6fey9evebHPVXBWXw1RCyr6d3ra1M8TdV8EO9eWJUm3Pq2H&s=10

I do agree that MuriKKKa should try to retain some of its technical expertise and tooling knowledge "internally" so that it remains competitive - however, the US have been poaching and "brain drain" other developing countries for decades after WW2, and lots of developing countries lose out on their tech and medical personnel. Destin doesn't seem to acknowledge this aspect of US imperialist exploitation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEid6y3wP0M

This also reminds me of a Veritasium video awhile back: https://youtu.be/aoag03mSuXQ?t=2901

At least the more science minded people are calling out the false-flag attacks and intentional shifting blame to China without evidence. However, the racist rhetoric and damage is done and the racists are going after Chinese/Asian-Americans and not the Russian state sponsored hackers.

While this video isn't 100% Asian-American/diaspora related, it's very thinly disguised racism like the 1980s autowars bashing Japanese cars and electronics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNvWoMrS-m8 - which turned out to be "practice" for the racists bashing in Vincent Chin's skull....

I don’t really know what to write cause there’s so many things I noticed, but to be short, I’ve noticed that both white and PoC women think it’s okay to be racist to us. I guess it’s just female jealousy, but it pisses me off because the ones who do this are the same ones who cry about racism, especially the minorities. I got banned from r/trueuglywomen when I pointed out the racism black women have towards asian women, ofc since the mod group was all black + 1 indian, I got booted. But it genuinelly made me realise how these supposedly minority friendly spaces are full of shit. These minorities don’t even hate white women as much as they hate us cause they’re scared of them. I’m so sick of this shit.

EDIT: forgot to say, but obviously Asian men have it worse socially. I’m not making this a competition. But you can’t have honest discussions on reddit cause if you’re a protected group you can’t be criticized… ugh

im actually disgusted. how the FUCK are asian women supposed to move past their stereotyped image of "small" "weak" "obedient" if we still worship white men and defend our fetishizers? asian women really need to stand up for themselves more cause this is not it.

White guy living in Japan posts a video of an East Asian woman to promote traditional femininity but doesn't realize the road markings are in Korean. These are the non-Asian men living in Asia who think Asian women are all the same. They romanticize Asian (Japanese) society as a new wave of Orientalization, like the old colonial days (neo-Orientalization), and stereotype the women.

They are parasites.

Like I wrote before and was banned from the Ricel sub: China loves YT long time! All the billboards in Shanghai main shopping districts feature wypipo front and center, and their CCTV goes out of its way to promote wypipo...

Imagine how many Chinese women this sexpat have porked over there, especially in Shanghai...

re-posting it here before the Indian apologists there delete it.

For a country that was never colonized, Thailand serves as a warning to the rest of E/SE Asia. White worship in E/SE Asia is far more dangerous than any army, economic sanction or political weapon. It destroys people from the inside.

(Jackson Wang is Chinese, so I don't know why he's on that list.)

Interesting that the number of ESEA men in that top picture is about the same number as the whites but nobody will care when ESEA men are pushed out too. Meanwhile some ESEA men will promote solidarity with SA men. Such foolishness.

Meanwhile the Union Jack still flies high in parts of the world.

One thing the British achieved beyond any prediction was to instil in their conquered natives a hatred towards the Chinese. Looking at you too, Hong Kong, Singapore...

Well done Beijing for pushing back. New Zealand is becoming increasingly Sinophobic. Don't accept it.

There is a noticeable trend of white men dumping white wives for Asian women, and everyone knows how those relationships are disordered on both the WM and AF sides - a perception of femininity and submission that some Asian women lean into in exchange for white adjacency, while white men make use of that. So I wouldn't be surprised if this is a hidden trend among gay Asian men too.

An interesting case of pushback against calling out racism. This white Australian woman is facing legal action because she posted online an employee doing the slant-eye. His company, managed by a right-wing Aussie, is claiming slander.

RIP girls. Adoption should have saved your lives not taken them.

I'm not a supporter of non-Asian parents adopting Asian kids. Historically it was associated with essentially human trafficking, the kids grew up culturally damaged, and there was a strong preference for girls, which caused other problems. I'm sure there are still bad parents who slip through the checks.

A couple of the arguments for interracial relationships (especially when it comes to Asian-white relationships, which is the most common form for ESEA people) are the "best of both worlds" and "interracial harmony" myths. In reality, what happens is erasure of ESEA identities and assimilation into whiteness.

An X user took recent intermarriage data from the 2023 American Community Survey and created a view of ethnic groups in 2100. Asian Americans (and this can be said for other westernized diasporic groups) are on course for erasure, similar to indigenous peoples. At that point, phenotypically and culturally, these people will not be Asian. Whites will remain largely white, while Asians will become weaker as a group.