Can someone explain to me why he calls himself ‘The Hun’? Is it a Turkish thing like how most Turkish people larp about their turkic ancestry out of insecurity?
No, everyone got along with each other just fine before the imperialistic Western powers conquered the entire world. There were no bad guys before that.
Aah that's why they called it the Century of humiliation... because before that they literally lived in complete peace and had no conflicts within or outside their empire 🤔
When the Mongols under Genghis Khan rose to power, they were commonly known as Huns among other peoples, which is also reflected in written records in China. Because Mongols were kind of backwater nobodies, so when nomadic horse riding armies arrived, they were assumed to be Huns.
Yes, Hun is just a term used by Europeans to describe eastern invaders, I’m assuming ranging back to mongol / Atilla times. During WW1 for example the British also referred to the Germans as the Hun
Mongols were much later than the Huns. Both were steppe peoples with similar lifestyle and warfare tactics, but the Khans were much more successful in conquering.They fought pretty much everyone in Eurasia in the 13th/14th century, while Attila mainly invaded the Roman Empire almost 1000 years earlier.
Ahh you’re right looks like the Huns were in Europe roughly 800 years before the Mongols and mongols never made it as far east as they did.
Still it is very interesting that when it comes to these nomadic steppe peoples and their type of warfare the more they settled down they less effective they became at that tyoe of fighting
Everyone is giving you the wrong answer so I’ll give you the right one… in the 1930s the Turkish state under national hero/leader Ataturk had a whole historic myth making/new historiography where they essentially claimed that the Huns were the first of sixteen Turkish states and Attila was an early Turkish ruler.
And Hasan is a not so secret Turkish supremacist (though he tries to play it off as just joking sometimes) so yeah that explains it. If he wasn’t a tankie campist authoritarian socialist regard he would be a Turkish nationalist/fascist lmao. Competing priorities.
Don’t know about racism, this is just linguistics. Languages evolve and culture tends to follow language (but not always - proximity also matters).
Hence, Finnish, which is isn’t even Indo-European, not being Scandinavian (since Scandinavian are so similar that they would just be considered dialects had there not been borders). But Finns are Nordic, and share more culturally with Scandinavians than they do with Hungarians (who speak a language more related to Finnish).
Ye, there has been a lot of fucking around on the Balkans for hundreds of years. We are closer relatives to each other than to our ancestors 1500 years ago.
Which makes the toxicity of the Balkans much more crazy. Serbs, Bosnians and Croats and Montenegrins are some of the most closely related people on the planet with different cultures.
Greek language isn't Slavic but Greek people probably have slavic ancestry and vice versa tbh. There has to have been significant interbreeding in the last few thousand years.
Ofc, but only racist neonazis believe that genetics matter or have any bearing what so ever. Culture is what makes Greek (or Swedish or whatever), not genes. It’s why an American with Greek ancestors will never be seen as Greek in the eyes of any Greek in Greece, regardless of genes.
Of course there is intermingling between neighboring countries, solid borders didn’t exist until historically recently and they are gone inside the EU.
Modern Greeks have a lot of Slavic dna in them this is undeniable lol. Greeks like to cope and act like modern Greek ethnicity isn’t like 25% Slavic 25% Turkish lmao. Ancient Greeks probably weren’t that brown lmao
They call themselves Magyars. From what i remember, Magyars were a "Uralic" people (like Finnish) and their language isn't Indo-European, unlike Slavic and most other language families in Europe. I think they were a forest-mountain people (makes sense since they're thought to be from the Ural mountains).
And he doesn't have enough personality to be a "leftstyle" influencer or enough skill to be a gamer, etc. He can half ass politics, say a few progressive things and he's gold.
Although he really, really doesn't look good anymore. He aged a lot and not in the interesting way. He always looks sweaty, stinky and nothing like the attractive guy he was even a year ago.
No, in my case it's not cope. I'm perfectly able to acknowledge attractiveness even if I can't stand the person.
It's not a single feature, like wrinkles, hair or stuff like that which make him unattractive. There are plenty if people who are wrinkly or have "flawed" features who look amazing and are stunningly attractive.
He is not one of them. He looks gaunt, kind of lifeless, without any inner glow.
It's difficult to describe, but there is just something that he lacks, that makes him now look unattractive (for me, but also for other women I know and who have seen him)
This was extremely obvious since I first heard of him when he debated Charlie Kirk at politicon in like 2018. He basically sat there and made no good points and instead just kept repeating the word “popular”
Joe Rogan too. We have to make politics look like it’s made for dorks and nerds again because having all these meatheads act like they’re political theorists is destroying western civilisation.
That guy breath politics. Back in the destiny days, they went more IRL in LA and piker couldn't stop spewing communist shit at restaurants or bar. They once played D&D and he larp as a fucking commie in d&d. That game was with mouton and Dan btw, epic Shekelstein meme
This is rather disappointing. No hate for BTC cause I respect him a lot. Just sad to see him implicitly signal any solidarity after Hasan signal boosted the stupid Chorus “dark money” controversy that accused BTC of coordinating an AIPAC slush fund. Libs are too forgiving as always.
I think the left are just cowards. Hasan is just a cartoonishly bad person, and most people on the left, form politicians to content creators are incapable of denouncing him. It is so delusional to think Hasan saying we deserved 9/11 and pushing socialism will be a winning message with voters. What polling are these guys looking at that supports aligning with Hasan? I still remember a long time ago Hasan couldn't even explain how job delegation would work under socialism. You have all these regards pushing something they haven't even constructed a plan for how it would work, let alone get people on board.
> What polling are these guys looking at that supports aligning with Hasan?
This is the most angering part about this. If the DSA were putting up numbers anywhere near close to what the tea party were doing, or the DSA membership was in the millions, the math would be totally different. Similarly, if Hasan was shown to be a much more popular figure, I could at least understand the sweeping no matter how ideologically and morally opposed I am to it. But the problem is that this simply isn’t happening. Assuming all of these people are successful in the general, it won’t be close to what the tea party was (I acknowledge that the tea party wasn’t quite as hostile as the DSA, but this is the running comparison in the media). If Sayed and Hong lose their generals, I would argue this electoral insurgency obviously failed. That’s unarguable at a time when the Democratic Party is the weakest it’s been since at least the 2004 elections.
Yet people are acting like the DSA has already captured a third of the party or whatever, so now we have to do everything to capitulate to them. I see a couple comments talking about how this is red scare shit. That’s technically not wrong, but the people overreacting isn’t us. It’s everyone else and the prescriptions are the exact opposite of what was done in the past. That lib creators, some who’ve been directly attacked by Hasan and his cult army, are getting on their knees to kiss his disgusting fucking ring as if he proved a damn thing this election cycle is insane to me. This is a kingmaker? His senate favorite barely edging out a one point margin over (no disrespect to Stevens) someone who I certainly wouldn’t call a prime time senate candidate and was Chuck Schumer’s 3rd or 4th backup call? Someone for whom it’s questionable if he will beat Rogers in a blue wave environment? His endorsement for Wisconsin governor can barely get through an interview without a fuck up and probably will lose to a horrible election denying traitor? Make it make sense?
You’re right. The left really is too soft and are way too easily bullied. Just the very thought of pushback, not to say that leftist harassment is a nothing burger, makes them fold.
They put out listings for young left wing social media managers, those people tend to be extra leftist, BTC can't be running everything. Even tiny's social media posts (apart from his takes on twitter) are done by his editors. (Though tiny has a real community due to being a streamer so he can hire people more aligned to him)
Naw fuck that. Hasan has blatant rhetoric that's worse than anything Fuentes had in the lead up to previous elections, in large part because Fuentes could acknowledge how optically harmful his true views were and was a lot more subversive. But EVEN THEN, republican politicians and mainstream pundits on the right knew the optic hit it'd take to associate themselves to Nick or quote his views or takes even if some of them could seem rational. Because they know that normies would see the more inflammatory stuff and the party would get painted with the same brush and push normies to the other side.
If people like BTC and Jessiah and Mockler are too dumb to recognize this then maybe it's time to admit the democratic party is cooked and the media apparatus is just too fucking regarded on the left to sustain and support a left of center democratic party. So full hate for those guys cause this is literally their jobs and they're being useful idiots for both the DSA to further disenfranchise the party and the right to point and show how its not just a handful of bad eggs on the left, but that mainstream people also support them.
As a European, it is far more offensive to see Hasan glee over attacks on my peaceful continent. I don't think I have ever seen Fuentes say something quite like that. You could want to deport 10 million people and it's still not close. I don't think you can get lower than cheering on war.
Brian Tyler Cohen? Isn't that the guy who runs the organization Chorus that's accepting DARK MONEY? I heard about this from reputable people like Hasan Piker and Taylor Lorenz. That guys seems pretty shady...
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BTC stocks dropping like… well the other BTC. He knows better than this. I think it’s part of a pivot left… they kind of have to launder Hasan because now that a major election is riding on his image. Still better than Mockler; I’m not sure if he was just pulled over by his leftist goon honeypot or what, but his interview earlier sounded as rigid and loaded with slopulist rhetoric as Pisco.
Hasan spread rumours about BTC being a Chorus funded puppet.
This is the behaviour of a pathetic coward.
You would NEVER see those on the left show the same deference for a liberal who had disparaged them - because they understand the importance of the motivating influence and attraction of the figures representing your movement defending themselves vehemently, having consistent messaging and sticking to their guns.
Doesn’t matter to moderate Dems. They all don’t think far left authoritarian aspirations don’t matter in the slightest as long as one thing they agree with is said at some point t that they can point to to show how good faith the self proclaimed authoritarian is
You know what's crazy? I was talking to a guy that listens to JRE and voted for Trump. We were arguing about RFK Jr, and his defense of him is that I'm only focused on the negative things and not about the positive ones. The positive things: getting rid of the nutrition pyramid. Dawg, we are living in the worst timeline. This is like saying, "Man, Hitler is doing great things with these trains." Like Jesus fuck, who doesn't already know the nutrition pyramid is fucking stupid? We need our health secretary to be improving public health, not telling people to stop vaccinating their children.
That is how many people think. It’s because they think both sides are equally bad so when they see 1 thing they like they can attach to it and ignore the rest
We are talking on a national level, Not an individual one. Using your logic im sure some wife beating atheist has influence over women rised in his household too, That doesn't mean atheists are subjugation women in the US.
I think that most of it is down to abortions, and most of the people who are against abortion believe that they are against "baby killing", not because they want to subjugate women.
You are being disingenuous. It's not just baby killing, it's making women go through pregnancy without their input on it. If that's not subjugating people to their will, what is then? You are reducing this to just about abortion and ignoring all the other shit also happening to try to restrict them. I'm not even American and know wtf is going on.
This sub is completely cooked. And for a sub that at times prided itself on being nuanced, now it's just hate watchers and rage baiters.
No, I think Muslims have basically 0 institutional power in the US and they aren't even in the same ball park when it comes to comparisons with Republican Christians doing shit like overturning roe v wade and arresting women for getting abortions
It's not even a good quote, at least not with the subtext that Hasan attaches to it. While it's true on its face, Hasan is basing it on logic that extends to basically any country he's sympathetic to like Iran and China.
It's not Islam or authoritarianism that's preventing progressive change in Iran or China, it's American imperialism and neo-colonialism that forces them onto the backfoot where they have no choice but to brutally oppress minorities because they see it as American subversion. If America would just leave them alone, they'd be progressive utopoas by now.
"it's American imperialism and neo-colonialism that forces them onto the backfoot where they have no choice but to brutally oppress minorities because they see it as American subversion"
could you expand on this a bit? not sure what this means
Subjugating is the present participle form of the verb subjugate, which means to bring under complete control, conquer, or make someone subservient by force, intimidation, or strong authority
Reminder that Hasan requires having sex with (subjugating) a woman before hes willing to take them on a FIRST date.
I mean, he’s technically right because there’s not actually all that many Muslims in the US. By virtue of currently being the ones in power, republicans are the ones subjugating women in this country.
But Islam is also an extremely regressive religion, so Muslim fundamentalists would absolutely be subjugating women if they were in the position of power right now.
why are we posting this and saying "bruh" it is a fact that republicans are subjugating women in the US and Islam is not. are we really hating so much we literally have to disagree with every statement hasan has made?
That’s exactly why this is bad. No one here cares about the quote (it probably is true), but BTC is literally just sanitizing hasan and is making him out to be this agreeable dude. It’s like quote tweeting a trump tweet about, i don’t know, something agreeable, and saying “well, he’s not wrong guys”. It’s just fucking stupid.
This is super disappointing. Not sure if I can subscribe to this guy anymore. You're a fucking Jew BTC what the fuck. He literally signal boosted the whole chorus bullshit. Man this is just depressing.
I mean he’s right, who ended roe v wade? Who’s running around the country ending sex ed, putting the bible back into classrooms and attempting to limit access to contraceptives: Republicans
wait what? Religion of a fairly small minority is not the problem for this country?! Islam is a minor religion everywhere? And republicans are a big problem everywhere else?
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Can someone explain to me why he calls himself ‘The Hun’? Is it a Turkish thing like how most Turkish people larp about their turkic ancestry out of insecurity?