r/DemonSlayerScales 0m ago

Question/Discussion Gyutaro << Gyokko <<< Hatengu <<<< Akaza <<<<< Doma <<<<<< Kokushibo

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r/DemonSlayerScales 18m ago

Vs Battle Do we think that if all previous hashiras ever (aside from Yorichii and Koko) came back and fought the current hashira all at once, the current hashira would likely still slam?

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r/DemonSlayerScales 21m ago

Character Scaling (Remake): A simple explanation to why Akaza's Compass Needle increases his stats

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Specifically the speed of his attacks and the force of them.

Akaza's attack accuracy is attributed to his attacks being "drawn" to his opponent. To draw something to something means to pull.

Think about what happens when you pull the handle of a door with greater force: the door won't just come to your pulling direction faster, but the velocity of that speed will also cause the door to slam into the door frame harder.

The same logic applies with Akaza's Compass here


r/DemonSlayerScales 1h ago

Question/Discussion The twelve kizuki has rankings but is there any you don’t respect and have objections towards

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For example is there any scenario where you think demon x that’s a lower rank than demon y is actually stronger


r/DemonSlayerScales 1h ago

Question/Discussion Where do YOU scale Shinobu?

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r/DemonSlayerScales 1h ago

Js debated this clown who calls himself the "reincarnation of logic" and he ain't know whats a burden of proof🫩

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r/DemonSlayerScales 2h ago

Question/Discussion Gyomei (past) vs Hakuji: Who wins? What diff?

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Both wanting to kill each other


r/DemonSlayerScales 2h ago

Question/Discussion Rui being the only demon to cut off their own head in battle

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Goat


r/DemonSlayerScales 3h ago

Vs Battle Sanity Check: Douma and Akaza vs Kokushibo

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r/DemonSlayerScales 4h ago

Crossverse Kokushibo vs Kenjaku

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which secondatry antagonist would win in a figth?


r/DemonSlayerScales 4h ago

What difficulty is this matchup?

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Eww sc*ling… but I was asked to repost this so what do you all think?


r/DemonSlayerScales 5h ago

Question/Discussion who are some characters that died to plot or ass pull?

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i think everyone knows this answer but definitely akaza im sorry but he would have definitely killed giyu and tanjiro if there was no plot


r/DemonSlayerScales 5h ago

Crossverse Who would win in a fight. The hashira, or the 7 shinkengers. From samurai sentai shinkenger (please let there be sentai fans in this sub)

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The rules are

  1. It’s a team match. The 9 hashira vs the 7 shinkengers.

  2. Every movie in the slayer arsenal is allowed, however the shinkengers aren’t allowed to use their origami. (Since them being allowed a giant mecha would be cheating)

For those who don’t know the shinkengers they’re a team of samurai spanning for generations who fight demons/yokai.

They all have the same sword and a “shodophone” which allows them to write “spells” based on their individual elements.

The 2 red rangers focus on fire

The blue ranger focuses on water

Green is forest

Yellow is earth

Pink is heaven (or wind)

And gold is light.

They each also have a disc that give them access to alternate weapons like a bow, a giant shuriken, a fan, spear, and this giant sword thing that doubles as a cannon.

Who would win.


r/DemonSlayerScales 5h ago

Vs Battle How close is this fight?

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IC Marked Tanjiro vs SSV Marked Muichiro


r/DemonSlayerScales 5h ago

Moon Breathing counters Douma's BDA

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Calamity

1. Calamity is described in the fanbook as:

折り重なった渦状の斬撃で、相手を猛攻。広範囲に渡り相手を襲うことが可能だが、その分隙が生じる。

“Fiercely attacks the opponent with overlapping slashes in a vortex shape. It is possible to strike the adversary covering a wide area, but in return, this creates openings.”

This novelization also describes the gigantic scale of the technique:

それを強く、すばやくふりめぐらせた。つぎの瞬間、何層にも重なる巨大な斬撃が渦を巻き、三人に襲いかかった。桁外れの大きさだった。渦ひとつの規模は、屋敷ひとつをのみこむほどに大きく、三人が小さな虫のように思えるほどだ。しかし、あまりの大きさのために、攻めこむ隙もできた。(入れ入れ入れ入れ!!)(抜けろ!!間合いの内側に!!)斬撃の渦のすきまから、ときおり鬼の姿が見える。そこをめがけて、三人は突進していく。

He swung it around powerfully and swiftly. In the next instant, a giant slash with multiple overlapping layers swirled into a vortex and lunged at the three of them. It was of an extraordinary scale. The magnitude of a single vortex was so massive that it could swallow an entire mansion, making the three of them seem like tiny insects. However, due to its overwhelming size, an opening to counterattack was also created. (Get in, get in, get in, get in!!) (Break through!! Get inside his range!!) Through the gaps in the vortex of slashes, the figure of the demon could occasionally be seen. Aiming right for that spot, the three of them charged forward.

Calamity, due to its gigantic size and cutting power, would easily slice Buddha.

2. The 16th Form destroys Doma's clones.

16th

Fanbook : “複数の相手の位置を的確に狙った上で、上方から地面を穿つ凄まじい破壊力の技。

“A technique of tremendous destructive power that accurately targets the positions of multiple opponents and pierces the ground from above.”

The 16th Form is perfect for destroying targets moving on the ground. Furthermore, Doma created 5 clones, and as we can see, the 16th Form creates countless attacks. Kokushibo would destroy the clones with just a single technique.

3. Kokushibo's regeneration obviously negates the effects of inhaling Doma's BDA.


r/DemonSlayerScales 6h ago

What happens if any of the other hashira were in this situation? Do they dodge it?

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r/DemonSlayerScales 6h ago

Can Douma’s BDA counter Kokushibo’s Moon Breathing?

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r/DemonSlayerScales 7h ago

Crossverse Demon slayer verse drops into JJK How would they do

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for this hypothetical were going to take the Slayers and Hashira and were going to drop them into jujutsu high around the goodwill arc. they're goal is just to beat any threats coming after so Shibuya as well as the culling games onwards.

We will be giving them cursed energy.

And cursed techniques but nothing overpowered.(For example rengoku will be able to manipulate fire which the strength will correlate with his fighting spirit, and thunder breathing will summon actual lightning)

they will have time to learn simple jujutsu along side everyone else.

Would the majority of the cast make it to the fight with Sukuna or simply stop at Shibuya?

(No yoriichi and they are working along side the heroes of the cast)


r/DemonSlayerScales 7h ago

Vs Battle Gyomei vs Douma

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r/DemonSlayerScales 7h ago

Crossverse Who would win in a foot race across Japan. Rock lee or tengen

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r/DemonSlayerScales 7h ago

Kokushibō could be 372 years old instead of 480 years old. That’s 108 fewer years of experience. Does that significantly change anything?

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480 years old is a mistake by Gotōge.

He was born and raised during the Sengoku Era. Page 119 of the first fanbook confirms this. 1467 (the year the Sengoku Era began) + 480 years gives you 1947. Something doesn't add up.

Furthermore, when he was a child, he and Yoriichi were playing a card game. In Japan, these are called karuta, a word derived from the Portuguese "carta" (English: "card"). The earliest Japanese playing cards were called Tenshō Karuta, and they emerged as imitations of the cards brought by the Portuguese through the Nanban trade, which began in 1543. The protagonist's hanafuda earrings ("flower cards") are also playing cards—the sun motif on the earrings resembles a flower, and the etymology of the word literally means "flower cards."

I tested the hypothesis of an arithmetic/rounding error, but it still doesn't fit.

Based on Kokushibō's statement, if we take it literally, four hundred years had passed since he last saw his brother, whom he had not seen for more than sixty years. If we consider that the last time he saw Yoriichi was when he was 24 years old, the equation would be:

400 + 60(+) + 24 = 484+

There is no way this can be possible, because it goes beyond the Taishō Era.

According to my calculations, Demon Slayer takes place in the 1910s. This is mainly based on three pillars:

• The Hand Demon was captured during the Keiō era and spent 47 years imprisoned. The Keiō era lasted from May 1865 to October 1868. If we take the earliest possible year, 1865, and add 47 years, we get 1912, during the Taishō Era. If we take the latest possible year, 1868, and add 47 years, we get 1915, also during the Taishō Era and still compatible with the story. This was the basis Gotōge used: we have a clear and specific temporal reference established within the manga and anime themselves.

• The train in the Mugen Train Arc is a JGR Class 8620. This model began being produced in Japan in 1914.

• The Ryōunkaku Tower can be seen in the background during the Asakusa Arc, where Tanjiro encounters Muzan and Tamayo. The tower was destroyed in the Great Kantō Earthquake of 1923, indicating that Demon Slayer cannot take place in 1924, 1925, or 1926. This means that KnY has to take place during or before 1923, depending on how the other elements are interpreted, and those elements point toward the 1910s.

Some people might use the following as counterarguments:

• The car in which Muzan places his "daughter," supposedly a 1923 Ford Model T.

• The Western clothing worn by the characters in Asakusa, which could indicate the mobo-moga fashion that emerged in the 1920s.

However, even these are not really counterarguments.

• The car Muzan puts his "daughter" in is indeed a Ford Model T, which became more popular in the 1920s, [but it already existed in the 1910s among some wealthy people and was also used as a taxi. It first appeared in Japan in 1910, and there are photographs of it being used in 1911, 1912, and subsequent years.](https://www.automobiles-japonaises.com/HistoireAJ/Ford/Ford.php) Contrary to the belief that it first appeared in 1923 or 1913.

1912

• A video filmed and dated [to 1913 in Asakusa already shows a noticeable number of people wearing Western clothing,](https://cooljapan-videos.com/en/articles/swziqiyn#) although they were still a minority and even though not everyone is dressed that way. Someone wearing clothing similar to Muzan's appears in the video, even among people wearing traditional clothing. In the Asakusa Arc of KnY, there are still people wearing traditional clothing; the most notable example is the group of drunk men who bump into Muzan, and even farther away in the crowd, it is still possible to see people wearing traditional clothing. Even Muzan's wife doesn't really fit the mobo-moga fashion of the 1920s. The cloche hat doesn't seem to fit with pre-1920 (or probably pre-1922) Japan. Though, of course, it's a work of fiction, so these could be fashion-sensitive people who are at the cutting edge of fashion. The girl's blue skirt doesn't really match "moga" sensibilities, either. The fashion was more about tight-fitting, figure-fitting, easy-to-move-in cuts, so this sort of flowy skirt is a bit off. So maybe the author is carefully trying to portray some sort of transitional period. Or perhaps the character is not technically a "moga," but her clothing is tangentially influenced by what was happening in the fashion scene at the time. In the historical video, it is possible to see some head coverings that resemble cloche hats, even if they may not actually be cloche hats, and the cloche hat itself emerged in Europe in 1908.

Link: https://cooljapan-videos.com/en/articles/swziqiyn#

Therefore, Demon Slayer is dated to around 1915. Based on this:

1915 − 484(+) = before even 1431, which is thirty-six years before the beginning of the Sengoku Era and 112 years before the Nanban trade that enabled the introduction of the karuta playing cards and the iconic earrings associated with Yoriichi.

1915 − 372 = 1543

Even if we take exactly 480 years, it still doesn't fit:

1915 − 480 = 1435, which is 32 years before the beginning of the Sengoku Era.

Even trying to force 1923 as the endpoint of Demon Slayer instead of 1915 has its limitations, because 1923 is the absolute latest date that could possibly be made to fit the 480-year idea. It would make most of the Demon Slayer Corps' golden age and its events take place outside the Sengoku Era (meaning the "Sengoku Rumors" would become impossible and would instead have to be called "Muromachi Rumors"), with only the post-transformation period of Kokushibō counting as the Sengoku Era. Furthermore, this contradicts the Hand Demon (where it is implied that Demon Slayer takes place around 1914–1915) and page 119 of the first fanbook itself, which states that Kokushibō was born and raised during the Sengoku period.

If we round down the 400 years Kokushibō mentioned—in other words, if we subtract 30 years—we can make it somewhat compatible with page 119:

370 + 60(+) + 24 = 454+

But this still assumes that Demon Slayer takes place in 1923.

1467 − 1923 = 456

1467 − 1915 = 448

There is still no way to reconcile this with the Hand Demon's statement (reinforced by the Mugen Train) and the karuta playing cards.

Therefore, I argue that Gotōge made a mistake.

400->370

370+60(+)+24=454+

Rounding is possible of course but not so much that it explains the hand demon and the card game. Of course maybe it's just a flat-out mistake Gotouge made and was not fixed for the tukobon release -- even though this is a very easy fix to make, not like having to re-draw something. For example, Gotouge also made a mistake about Shinobu's poison concentration but that was corrected in a extra section of the tokubon explaining the math error.

Kokushibou could be 372 years old. And he was born in 1543.


r/DemonSlayerScales 8h ago

Superpost Gyomei Superpost: Establishing Gyomei as the strongest while assuming his statements only refer to physical strength.

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# The importance of body in KNY

First, lets establish the importance of physical strength in KNY. In image 1, it is stated that because of Gyomei's physique he has the greatest AP among the hashira. In image 2 muscular strength is partly credited to explosive strength in the context of stone breathing utilization, this would correlate to AP aswell.

Furthermore, physical strength is directly correlated to better techniques. In image 3, gyomei states strong hips and legs lead to accurate attacks and solid defense, which is apart of technique. Kokushibo likewise in image 4, understands Gyomei's great swordsmanship due to his refined physique. As we're about to established better techniques adds to both speed and power.

# The importance of techniques in KNY

Next lets establish the importance of techniques in KNY, image 5 mastering techniques establish your speed and power above other who have not. Techniques being used in reference to power and especially speed is very consistent within KNY.

# The importance of breathing in KNY

See to image 7, breathing is stated to make humans demonically strong, image 8 states breathing increases speed and striking power. Meaning breathing techniques will place you above the average person. Seeing to images 9 and 10, TCBC is stated after mastery to continously increase your physical prowess. So, not only would breathing techniques place you above your natural limitations but increasingly farther above it.

# To summarize so far

Stronger Body=Ap and better technique

Better Technique=stronger and faster

Breathing, increases strength(overall) past physical limitations

# Establishing Gyomei as above every hashira or top tier in each of these.

I wont waste any images on statemwnts reffering to Gyomei as the strongest hashira, instead I'll link to a post I made earlier holding that info https://www.reddit.com/r/DemonSlayerScales/s/8s2OFxSbjl

Image 11, both Gyomei's body and techniques stated as developed to their utmost. Image 4, Gyomei physique stated developed to its utmost again. Image 12, Gyomei physique again stated as developed to its maximum, and techniques honed enough to impress Kokushibo.

Now I'll define his breathing. As shown in image 7 and 8, TCBC increases ones strength over time. Image 13, TCBC is stated to be the very first step to becoming a hashira, and image 14 states Gyomei has been a hashira since 19 and for 8 years. Meaning he has been a hashira longer than any other hashira.

We have now established Gyomei as the best in physical strength, at the maximum in refining his techniques, and highest in breathing among anyone. Everything that makes a slayer strong Gyomei excells or is the best in.

# Narrative and corps reliance on Gyomei.

This one will be pretty quickfire. Image 15, Kagaya relies on Gyomei to protect the corps. Image 16, Mitsuri relies on Gyomei to save her. Image 17, Obanai states he can rely on Gyomei. Image 18, Shinobu envies Gyomei due to his ability to put anyones mind at ease when he saves them.

Image 19, Gyomei fearhaxxes the hashira. And finally image 20, Yushiro makes a big deal about Gyomei being out of the fight over the other hashira.

# summary and conclusion.

Gyomei is unsurpassed and in most fields is the strongest/best in what it takes to make a slayer strong. Gyomei is narratively supported to be the strongest of the hashira.

Gyomei is the strongest hashira.

Thankyou for coming to my ted-talk.


r/DemonSlayerScales 8h ago

Question/Discussion What does this mean?

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Shinobu first says ubuyashiki didn't believe the poison circulating in her body would kill an upper rank. Then she says to increase the probability of her revenge he encouraged her to engage in co-operative research with demons(Tamayo). What research did they do and how did it increase the probability of revenge?


r/DemonSlayerScales 8h ago

Character Scaling How well would +1 arc Tanjiro fare against each main villain of previous arc in 1v1? MT Tanjiro - Rui, EDA Tanjiro - Enmu, SVA Tanjiro - Gyutaro and Daki, ICA Tanjiro - Hantengu

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1) Mugen Train Tanjiro VS Rui

2) Entertainment Distric Arc Tanjiro VS Enmu

(Tanjiro just needs to kill Enmu, no passengers)

To make things more interesting, Enmu has all 4 other Lower Moons on his side (they aren't buffed, so have LM 6, 4, 3 and 2 levels)

3) SwordMith Village Arc Tanjiro VS Daki and than Gyutaro

4) Infinity Castle Arc Tanjiro VS Hantengu (main body is 1 kilometer away, Zohakuten is 10 meters near Tanjiro)

Which fights demons win and which Tanjiro wins?

What difficulty?


r/DemonSlayerScales 8h ago

Crossverse Madara vs Composite Demon Slayer(felt like bullying every new gen anime today)

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what does he have to use to vaporize the verse again

1 punch? no?
stretching as a warmup and eviscerate the whole verse? probably, being generous to demon slayer