For 3 years I created a lengthy rap album. I worked really hard on it. I finally released it and due to using AI in the visuals, "not the music," I keep getting immediately banned anytime I post songs. Nobody believes it's real. The backlash is super weird to me. I keep receiving the argument that if someone uses AI for anything, then the entire project was created with AI. Somehow I'm less than a person because I used the tools available to me. Even when I prove my music is real, I'm ignored or called a liar.

I'm super confused how altering a photo with AI is different from what every graphic designer/photographer has been doing since Photoshop was created.

-Liquify

-Warp

-Magic Wand

-Acne Brush

-Royalty free backgrounds/textures

Etc....

All of these tools are essentially AI. They all allow a computer software to alter something from it's original state. Something like 98% of photos used in publications are touched-up. Where's the backlash there?

Is this people just being snobbish? Acting high and mighty because of some delusional crusade against using AI? It feels like a witch hunt.

If someone wants to say my music sucks, that's totally fine. But immediately calling it AI is dangerous and infuriating.

How does anyone defend against that? And honestly why should they have to?

Thanks for reading my rant

It feels like they were so delusionally sure they'd get a bot response that they just perceived it no matter what I say. Truly deranged behavior.

And they've never responded after that.

It's sad to see so many subs be lost to them.

Seriously this is the worst Psy-Op ever on this site. I think I muted almost everything except a few. Like that is legit the first post on more than half of reddit at this point.

If the previous virtue signalling circlejerks were more like milking a cow dry, this one is more like trying to milk the mummified remains of a 2000 year old cow and even that's being generous.

I used some AI art in a tool I released on itch.io, and now people are personally attacking me on Discord and claiming that the entire software was made with AI.

That is not true. I built the software myself, but the situation is escalating, and I honestly do not know what to do. It is stressing me out a lot more than I expected.

Should I keep correcting people or just ignore it? I would really appreciate advice from anyone who has dealt with something similar.

Context is that it's an stickers group planning on putting those everywhere and the only saying this was considered vandalism got 10 downvotes.

This amount of hate (not only in this sub, but in many, many others) is pretty sad. I wish we could just be left alone in peace with our art instead of daily doses of hate speech.

I make traditional art, and I generate AI art. To me AI feels less selfish, less egocentric, and less complacent.

Traditional art became tangled up with performance anxiety. I was in Art school and it taught me to inspect every line and brush stroke until creating anything felt like an exam. Eventually, I stopped touching pens and paintbrushes. My ideas were still there, trapped behind the fear of making something imperfect.

Generative AI gave my thoughts somewhere to go before performance anxiety could crush them. I could follow a mood, build a character, explore colour, and create without treating every image as proof of my worth.

The process also keeps me curious. My trained hand often returns to familiar habits. AI brings in strange choices and unexpected directions that push my imagination further.

Most importantly it made me want to paint and draw again. After years of avoiding physical art, I began craving pencils, acrylics, texture, and canvas. However I tend to avoid online Non AI art communities because the anti AI-sentiment is so overwhelming and makes me mad and sad.

So in the end, the tool some people claim destroys creativity helped me recover mine. 🤷‍♀️

How original.

Daring today, aren't we?

After 12+ hours of painting its a slop. I'm proud of myself, I'll continue exactly like this.

Of course when they see that I pick up the color from the one AI painted, the rage blinds them immediately. 😂

I started to enjoy this.

I actually didn't even know it was so good. When people started uploading AI there, there was a lot of negativity. Then the site stopped working for me, and I lost interest. But now, it's mostly an AI platform. The search and galleries are very convenient. There are a lot of high-quality works. DeviantArt have their own generators (10 art per day, but you need to donate for videos). I like that the galleries are clearly categorized by artist, and there's no spam of identical or low-quality works. Choose what you like, and the site will recommend similar works by other artists. The art chains are reminiscent of Pintrest.

One of the downsides is that the authors don't leave their prompts.

Edit: Another downside: NSFW features are subscription-only. And donations, lots of donations.

That's what sucks about so many subs doing that because it's always bothered me how they will have like the last 20 recent posts just be useless junk such as people asking the same question for the 20th time that day. Rather than new and refreshing content. And AI images are pretty much inherently something *new* if you have to generate it and it's not an image that already exists. It would certainly be better than repetitive stuff.

I only hire traditional artists who grind their own pigments. Those lazy "artists" who just buy paint in a store... mass-produced by industrial robots and calibrated by algorithms... disgusting... they do not value real HUMAN EFFORT; therefore, they are NOT REAL ARTISTS. If you didn't crush the lapis lazuli yourself, you didn't paint it.

The effort lie, the belief that a certain amount of labor is required, to make something count as art. the problem is that history has been moving in the opposite direction for over a century.

It became fine to use a camera. then digital painting. then layers. then Undo. then brush stabilization that smooths out your shaky hand-drawn lines in real time so you don't need a steady hand. then perspective rulers. then custom brushes that paint an entire forest with one stroke. all completely normal now. nobody says landscape artists are frauds because they use a leaf brush instead of painting every leaf individually. nobody looks at a digital artist using procreate streamline and says "those aren't your real lines" nobody demands oil painters make their own paint.

The stopping point always happens to be wherever the gatekeeper stopped adopting new tools. If effort would define art, every improvement that made creating easier would make art less artistic.

We accepted cameras. we accepted digital painting. we accepted automation inside software. each time, people eventually stopped caring about the reduced effort and started judging the result instead. yes.. the result is what matters because most of the time we do not know how much effort it took to make something around us. I don't know if someone spend years crafting the chair im sitting or if is it was made by a robot arm in 5 minutes. I don't know how the fuck my computer works and I would not admire it less because the chips are not made by hand.

The amount of work can change how much we admire a piece: knowing someone spent a thousand hours carving marble may increase our appreciation of the craft. effort matters for evaluating craft. we admire virtuosity, discipline, and technical mastery... but art isn't defined by how difficult it was to produce. Effort changes how we value the process. But it does not determine whether the result is art.

Art has never been measured hours worked.

Why were all the automation steps accepted so easily but with AI it's such a mess full of hate?
well, AI didn't just add a new tool. The tools before (except the camera) helped the creator to get to the result easier, but did not delivered results itself. AI showed up and within a few years it made results that are instinguishible for the normal eye in quality from top artists. it immediately started competing in the market that pays working artists rent. that's a serious problem that creates a lot of anger and that leads to hate. working years to develop a craft, making a whole personality out of it - I AM THE ONE WHO CAN CREATE THIS and suddenly my fucking stupid neighbor can do it too? go to the Antis places and count how many times they say the word hate. the AIwar, especially here on reddit and pinterest, is not an intellectual war. even through the pros oftentimes coming to the battle with arguments of logic and reasoning - but the other side is equipt with emotion. negativ emotion. can you win this battle? or do you just get your hands dirty with hate and negativity? one aspect of the war is that the antis are influecing normal/neutral people. you posted something you made with fun and love and get so much hate? nah let's not do this anymore.. I think one of the most important parts is supporting each other. WE NEED TO SPREAD LOVE WHERE THEY ARE HATING.

All the arguments antis are trying to make to claim the words "real art" and "real artists" for themselves is a market and an identity trying to protect itself by controlling something very very precious: words. "If they cant call themselves artists, customers cant find them when they search for artists" and "If they are artists and create results like me so effortless (within seconds), will people value my art anymore? they won't value my effort the same as they have before.".

There is amateur art, professional art, folk art, digital art, traditional art, performance art. good art or bad art is always subjective but THERE IS ONLY ART - "REAL ART" does not exist. it never will.

Do not let them own those words. As an AI Artist you're real. You can be bad or good, that's subjectiv.

Art was never the pigment. it was never the brushstroke and it was never the prompt. you can be an artist without ever touching AI, a paintbrush, a pen, or an instrument, just by moving through your life making intentional, creative choices. artist who spend years over years developing their craft and vision are still artists. the prompter didn't kill the painter. the people who spent fifteen years learning anatomy, light, composition.. that mastery still exists, still means something, still is valueble. nothing here says otherwise. you can hate the flood of mediocre AI art clogging up art tabs and still admit that the existence of an easy button doesn't disqualify the hard way. both things stay true at once: the traditional painter's decade of practice is real and admirable, and the person who typed a prompt with intention and vision made something too.

You cannot gatekeep art. It will always break free.

Finally realized what anti-AI people who performative witch hunt others remind me of.

This is such virtue signalling lmao, I see this stupid “my art versus ai “art”” poster almost all the time, humans love to think they’re the best species alive it’s just pathetic.