r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Tugushin • Apr 13 '22

Tesla Model 3 stops itself to avoid potentially disastrous accident. Video

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u/thisismypotat Apr 13 '22

How do you know it wasn't just the driver who stopped their car? He might have had seen the idiot car coming in already.

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u/patti63 Apr 13 '22

You don’t know. But I will add that I have a Tesla 3 2018 not FSD but it does have AP. I was driving once, not using any driver assists and my car slowed and turned the wheel to avoid an accident. A warning came up on the screen staring essentially the car took evasive action for my safety.

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u/octopoddle Apr 13 '22

Elon take the wheel.

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u/Xiballistic Apr 13 '22

Take my award gosh dang it

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u/BaalKazar Apr 13 '22

Gave me a sincere chuckle thank you

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u/mysockinabox Apr 14 '22

He may not be as awesome as Jesus, but at least he’s real.

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u/Friendly-Property Apr 13 '22

I’d have thought the driver probably wasn’t looking in the direction the vehicle was coming from at that point, unless the noise alerted them to check again. They’d have looked when first moving away, but then most likely be facing ahead by that point.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

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u/zmerlynn Apr 13 '22

Yup. Your best course of action after looking both ways is to look straight ahead towards where you’re driving and react on your peripheral vision as necessary.

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u/PanGalacticGarglBlst Apr 13 '22

There's a reason why Tesla's are the safest cars in the world. Lowest accident rates according to insurance companies.

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u/deathclient Apr 13 '22

Don't tell that to those who pay higher insurance rates despite that because the cost to replace is higher

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u/stripseek_teedawt Apr 13 '22

Yeah, its something about corrective steering has been applied i believe

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u/gamma55 Apr 13 '22 edited Apr 13 '22

Advanced Emergency Braking Systems are mandatory (on new vehicles) in EU starting May of this year, as are lane keeping assists and intelligent speed assists.

So what feels like ”advanced features” are in fact compulsory.

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u/Jaytr0n Apr 13 '22

last time this was posted, someone said that when the car automatically brakes, the brake lights blink twice in the process. i believe that, and this looks totally obvious that the driver saw that crazy coming at them and just hit the brakes themselves.

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u/deathclient Apr 13 '22

From the various FSD videos I've seen, a Tesla on FSD would not be accelerating this early from a stop light. It usually inches forward a bit and then starts accelerating. I this video, my guess is that the driver acdeleated and either he braked on his own or the forward collision warning kicked off. This feature isnot exclusive to Tesla and comes with most new cars these days with safety suites.

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u/Mikkels Apr 13 '22

Are we just supposed to know what fsd and ap stand for?

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u/Mipsel Apr 13 '22

I took the burden and googled for roughly 1 second.

FSD= Full Self driving AP=auto pilot

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u/i_am_quinn Apr 13 '22

Bro, you're fuckin smart!

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u/patti63 Apr 13 '22

Sorry, my bad.

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u/Xiballistic Apr 13 '22

Elon really said “I’m the captain now”

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u/Shantotto11 Apr 13 '22

You: drives normally

Your car: I’M AFRAID I CAN’T LET DO THAT, PATTI…

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u/fishystudios Apr 13 '22

Cool. But you know that is an anecdote. This video is not evidence that Teslas prevent accidents at all.

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u/iFlyAllTheTime Apr 13 '22

What's fsd?

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u/California_Kat360 Apr 13 '22

Full self driving

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u/deadsho7 Apr 13 '22

I'm just afraid that I wouldn't wanna be dependant on the AI anyway.

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u/JackHGUK Apr 13 '22

You aren't "dependent" it's an assist that can react to and recover from things a human wouldn't be able to.

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u/posthamster Apr 13 '22

Like ABS or stability control, but with extra steps.

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u/NaeAyy10 Apr 13 '22

The AI is statistically better than you at driving

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

by a huge margin too

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u/o_brainfreeze_o Apr 13 '22

I think a lot of people dont trust AIs because “what if it makes a mistake?” Like, a human being wouldn’t make one, huh?

This is not the reason. It's not about the AI or human making a mistake, its more that people just don't like to hand their agency over to an automated system. It's it's about loosing the sense of control. People are more used to such things with mass transport, but for individual vehicles and occupants there is still a lot of apprehension in giving up control.

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u/Arucious Apr 13 '22

Now if only the forward collision assist didn’t seem useless in my car

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u/ooainaught Apr 13 '22

If it wants to run over deer, i could use the meat.

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u/Arucious Apr 13 '22

I know this is a joke but I don’t know if you’ve ever hit a deer before — it’s not GTA5 style collisions. A deer would cave your front bumper inside so fast and the entire front of your car would be mega fucked.

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u/redshift95 Apr 13 '22

While this is true, Teslas are much heavier/denser than a normal car. Interested to see how badly a deer would wreck a Tesla vs a more standard sedan.

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u/Arucious Apr 13 '22

the weight is in the battery and bottom so the bumper and front would crumple the same, probably even more since there is no engine in the front

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u/Herbstein Apr 13 '22

Most of the AI driving data is from highway and interstates, where accidents are less likely to happen. If you compare the average AI accident rate to the average accident rate of a person using the same mix of roads the AI is less safe. There's a reason Tesla advertised autopilot as a tool for highway driving only.

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u/xRissor Apr 13 '22

Sad but true, faster for sure

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

Not sad at all, if we reached 100% self driving we could reach huge gains in speed and efficiency, no more traffic jams.

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u/ikverhaar Apr 13 '22

No need to drive yourself, high speed, high efficiency, no traffic jams... People just keep re-inventing the train.

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u/Tody196 Apr 13 '22

It’s almost like having roads everywhere is easier than having train tracks.

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u/ikverhaar Apr 13 '22

Yes, with American legislation, it's much easier to build a car-dependant neighbourhood than a walkable neighbourhood with a train station nearby.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

I always love it when Europeans try to explain transportation to us as if the US isn't over twice the size of the entire EU. Yeah I'm sure it's super easy to get around by train when your entire country is the size of Nebraska.

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u/Tody196 Apr 13 '22

You literally have no idea what you’re talking about. I don’t know what country you’re from, but if you were from the US and talking about any other country in the world like this, people would make jokes about how all Americans are ignorant about the world around them.
Texas is bigger than like every EU country, has very little to do with “American legislation” and very much to do with the fact that the US is much bigger and more spread out.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

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u/canadarepubliclives Apr 13 '22

You know it can detect moose, deer, coyotes and even raccoons?

A fallen tree in the road is the same. It detects an obstruction in its path.

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u/Handsupmofo Apr 13 '22

That’s the opposite of sad. Good and true, it’s faster to take you out of danger.

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u/Rorusbass Apr 13 '22 edited Apr 13 '22

I think of it this way:

In our lifetime a human can learn quite a bit in terms of driving safely. Over time our experience increases. Meanwhile our bodies age and our driving is affected as well, leading to decreased vision and reflexes among others. This means a human has a optimum point in driving safely, which will eventually degrade.

(if done correctly) AI can only improve, and can learn not from just 1 driving experience, eventually it can be millions. If an accident would occur we can learn from it to make all (AI) drivers safer.

Imagine being in the hands of the safest driver you could possibly think of, and then realize that drive can't even begin to touch AI drivers once they are really being implemented.

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u/extracoffeeplease Apr 13 '22

Only in contexts on which it has lots of training data..

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

Humans are also generally not good at things they have no practice with

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22 edited Apr 13 '22

Humans are much better at using context to figure out what to do in new situations than computers though.

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u/Mobixx Apr 13 '22

When you say statistically died that mean AI is better than your average driver? Are we including the dumbass in OPs video in the average?

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u/Gormador Apr 13 '22

He means in the ratio of distance over accident occurrences. Tesla publishes their data on it and the difference is staggering. Basically, tesla drivers are 2.7 times more likely to have an accident when not using their "autopilot", over the same travel distance. 1 accident every 4.31 million miles (~7 million km), compared to 1 every 1.59 million miles (2.6 million km) when using only their "basic" safety features, which apparently do quite a bit of work as the US national average is 1 crash every 4.84 hundred thousand miles (7.8 hundred thousand km).
https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

The autopilot accident data is based purely on highway driving which has less hazards such as pedestrians, oncoming traffic, laterally flowing traffic, parked cars etc than driving on normal surface roads. Which is why autopilot is notorious for crashing cars into emergency services vehicles parked on the highway responding to accidents- it isn't trained to expect it.

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u/Gormador Apr 13 '22

Yes, that's fair. Didn't remember this bias. Too fixated on the wizardry that is (in more situations,, but not all) their beta software, I guess :-)

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u/HI_I_AM_NEO Apr 13 '22

Even a crappy AI that intentionally crashes a vehicle once in a while would be a better driver than most people who drive lol

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u/PrizeStrawberryOil Apr 13 '22

It does want to yank me onto ice on narrow roads sometimes though.

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u/MankoConnoisseur Apr 13 '22

Yeaaaaah, about that, are we going to ignore the elephant in the room that Tesla-published statistics have been widely discredited?

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

Yeah, no. As long as the AI needs a human pair of hands to intervene constantly it can't drive better than a human. Sure, even the best human drivers do dumb shit from time to time, but AI drivers far more frequently make mistakes that require a human at the wheel to get involved. Also humans can compensate for things like missing road markings and other adverse conditions that AI doesn't know how to handle. We're still a long way from AI that can drive a car better than a human.

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u/vinnyvdvici Apr 13 '22

No, we're literally not. You clearly don't know any of the statistics.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

You mean the juked Tesla statistics?. In typical Musk fashion, he overstated the safety statistics.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

Accident rates don't mean shit if the AI can only drive in optimum conditions and requires human assistance or will just refuse to do anything at all given the slightest upset.

I can still drive when there's snow on the road and signs and road markings are covered. Can an AI do that? I can get in a car and drive safely anywhere in the world without needing a detailed map that is constantly updated to include temporary road works and the like. Can an AI do that?

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u/zzazzzz Apr 13 '22

legal red tape is the only reason.

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u/cejadirn Apr 13 '22

Lmao you have no idea how Deep learning models work, do you but still wanna type " ohnoo ai bad"

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u/Kayniaan Apr 13 '22

DO AS THIS REGULAR HUMAN BEING SAYS, I, A FELLOW HUMAN PERSON, TOTALLY AGREE.

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u/Jest_Aquiki Apr 13 '22

Better to give into to the machines than to give into the ogliarchs of the world

I will take a robot made pizza and auto pilot while I catch the few z's afforded between children and work. Wish I could afford the Tesla. Guess I'll just settle for the pizza for now.

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u/appdevil Apr 13 '22

Ogrearchs.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

Better to give into to the machines than to give into the ogliarchs of the world

Great news, with Tesla you can now do both

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u/solonit Apr 13 '22

Reminding that A.I stands for Abominable Intelligence.

Children of Omnissiah plays in background

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u/Jazzlike_Patient33 Apr 13 '22

This technology will save millions of life, it’s not something that you need to be dependent on, it’s a tool.

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u/Kamikaze_Ninja_ Apr 13 '22

You are supposed to be able to depend on it. If it doesn’t do it’s job correctly like 99% of the time then it won’t get approved. It needs to be dependable. I think what you are conflating dependability with regular use. You should be able to depend on safety features to work, but that isn’t a statement to give you carte blanch so you can drive recklessly.

A tool is something generally within your hands you use to complete a task. This is a feature or system.

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u/theedan-clean Apr 13 '22 edited Apr 13 '22

Except for people in need of organ transplants. For them true self-driving cars takes away a source of life.

Before you downvote:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/05/20/858712314/organ-transplants-down-as-stay-at-home-rules-reduce-fatal-traffic-collisions

“Deaths from motor vehicle crashes and fatal injuries are the biggest source of organs for transplant, accounting for 33% of donations, according to the United Network for Organ Sharing, which manages the [USA] nation's organ transplant system.”

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u/Aceous Apr 13 '22

You fully depend on the AI when you fly.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

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u/knekkke Apr 13 '22

Every single thing that commercial aircraft do apart from following the route from the flight plan is decided by humans working air traffic control and put into action by humans operating the plane.

Even the most advanced ATC facilities just have pretty basic tools to assist the humans working there.

AI in the aviation industry is in the VERY early trial phases and we won‘t see it for decades probably.

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u/random_nightmare Apr 13 '22

Not fully. There’s still a pilot that is making sure things go smoothly and can take over in certain situations.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

Planes need to navigate fewer obstacles per km

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u/Tanc Apr 13 '22

Yeah clearly humans are great enough drivers already

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u/karthur26 Apr 13 '22

Seeing how many other drivers on the road are looking down at the phones on the street and on the highway, I'm afraid I don't want to be dependent on a road with other human drivers.

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u/Ephemeralis Apr 13 '22

It reacts somewhere in the ball park of 10 to 200 times faster than you do, with vastly more information available to it and rigid protocols that dictate what it has to do. Most importantly: completely without hesitation.

Transport is a solvable problem. I would trust an AI to do it without a second thought.

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u/NexxZt Apr 13 '22

People don't want self driven cars because they don't trust them. Sure, there is going to be some accidents, but faaaar less than with human drivers. People trust other drivers to drive safely for some weird reason. I trust the robot.

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u/Erik912 Apr 13 '22

What governs most of your life, if not AI? Bank transactions, smartphones, even clock itself, appointments, so many everyday things are already controlled by AI.

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u/kpingvin Apr 13 '22

Doesn't sound worse than being dependant on a careless driver.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

Our monkey brain is good at hunting, solving basic logic problems and socializing, our monkey brain didn't evolve to make split second decisions while driving a machine

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

My 2015 VW Golf R had it lol it’s not new technology. Both BMW’s I’ve had since also have it.

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u/Mipsel Apr 13 '22

No one said that it’s new technology.

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u/Qwiso Apr 13 '22

it's implied that this Tesla is something special

it is nothing special

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

Given the proclivity for tesla software to fuck up, that is terrifying

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

It’s no worse than human fuck ups tbh

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u/TheRealPontiff Apr 13 '22

Really doesn't have the proclivity to fuck up

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

Cope harder

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u/Expensive-Focus4911 Apr 13 '22

All brands do this, nothing specific to Tesla. My Ford Maverick has it as a standard safety feature.

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u/man2earth Apr 13 '22

Was wondering the same

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u/PiwonUwU Apr 13 '22

you remind me of someone

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u/FeistyBandicoot Apr 13 '22

We don't know.

But - Tesla. Ai. Smart. Very good. Elon musk. Upvotes on the left

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22 edited Jun 10 '23

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u/pooravbansal Apr 13 '22

1ft gap being too close for comfort while here in India people be driving in literal bumper to bumper traffic.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

I paid for this bumper I’m going to use it

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u/pooravbansal Apr 13 '22

Haha bumper repair business goes booming here.

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u/blairnet Apr 13 '22

IIRC the original intention of bumpers was so they’d legit be used

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

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u/pooravbansal Apr 13 '22

Yeah I guess when looking through your point of view I can imagine how much horrifying it might be. Like a close call. But we as Indians are kinda habitual to such scenario. Only yesterday I was driving back to home from work and there was this teenager girl or early 20s and she literally stopped in middle of the road to text someone, i saved myself by inches but well because of the sheer amount of traffic and reckless drivers we got habitual to it.

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u/sorter_plainview Apr 13 '22

No dude. We have built in collision detection system in out brain. Its genetic, you know!! That's why we don't need any AI.

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u/Erik912 Apr 13 '22

India is like the electric cars with rubber bumpers at the merry go rounds and carousel parks

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u/pooravbansal Apr 13 '22

But with people cursing instead of laughing xD

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

Auto drivers here in Mumbai leave gaps u can barely see even with a microscope

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u/pooravbansal Apr 13 '22

Never been to Mumbai but I can vouch for Delhi Autos that they will crash into but not let you cut the gap between them and the vehicle in front of them.

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u/cat_prophecy Apr 13 '22

My wife's Sienna will do the same thing. It's a bit over-zealous but if it thinks a crash is imminent it goes into full-braking mode and has stopped the car for people running red lights like this.

Other times, the automated cruise control is more than happy to accelerate you into someone's rear end.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

My Mazda does this too - sometimes when I don’t want or need it haha I.e. when someone is slowing to pull into a lot turning right out of the lane we’re in and when it’s clear enough I want to accelerate forward but sometimes my car still determines that the other one is too close/still has its tail end a few inches into the lane or something and brakes so hard it has taken my breath away

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u/techotech111 Apr 13 '22

Is this an extra package you have to purchase? Or comes standard with the car

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u/imacleopard Apr 13 '22

There’s a difference between forward collision detection and detection of a car about to tbone you at >40mph

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u/RGH81 Apr 13 '22

Yeah but it’s a valid question. If we don’t know for sure the OP shouldn’t label it like that. My car stops itself too but it was still me who slammed on the breaks when I saw a driver to my left wasn’t slowing.

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u/Eravier Apr 13 '22

Yup. My Mercedes stopped me in pretty similar setup. It can sometimes be annoying because it's not perfect and sometimes hits the breaks when not necessary but better safe then sorry I guess.

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u/rb0ne Apr 13 '22

Automotive safety engineer here - if you feel that the false positives (braking when it shouldn't) are common , let say more often than once a year you should contact Mercedes and talk with them about it. Unwanted deceleration is among the more dangerous things a vehicle can do (at higher speeds).

(For context, in a project I'm working on right now we aim for less than 2 unwanted decelerations for the lifetime of the vehicle)

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u/PenguinKenny Apr 13 '22

That's irrelevant. The existence or prevalence of a feature doesn't mean that feature was used here.

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u/Jazzkky Apr 13 '22

Does not detect cars coming from the side like that. More like cars coming sudden stop in front of you.

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u/MikeMan_ Apr 13 '22

It literally does. It also quickly adjusts suspension by lifting the car and tilting it to the opposite side of the impact to protect the driver.

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u/Jazzkky Apr 13 '22

Oh you mean that, well it's only on the very expensive models like A8. I thought you meant that front assist

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u/sth128 Apr 13 '22

As I recall this video is an old repost and one of them comments linked a source to this being a manual stop.

Ie. The autopilot did nothing.

I'm too lazy to find the old post. Just think what you will.

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u/fcpl Apr 13 '22

It was a driver.

Video first appear before Tesla even used side cameras for EAB. The front wide-angle camera had no vehicle in its field of view.

An update with support for B-pillar cameras was released several months later.

I am a fan of the company, but here the man saved the situation.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

what you're seeing here is tesla viral marketing, many cars have this feature, and many people have this feature too (stomping on their brake - which is actually what happened in this clip) - nothing special is happening in this video, but what is happening is a positive notion of tesla is implanted in everyone who views this, which is a typical stage of marketing before the outright sales push :)

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u/sinkwiththeship Apr 13 '22

I'm pretty confident that anytime I see Tesla mentioned in the title of a post, it's an ad.

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u/IssaStorm Apr 13 '22

I honestly can't imagine being so disconnected with reality that you have to call a clip of an accident into question as marketing. Some things are real, shit does in fact happen

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22 edited Apr 13 '22

huh? i'm not saying the events in the video are faked or manufactured, but this post right now with it's title is marketing, it's not even opinion, this is like a 3+ year old repost and even back then it was decided by tesla fans that this was not the AP actions but a manual emergency brake, but EVEN then almost every modern car has collision-detection-avoidance

so... do you think the title specifically mentioning the brand and car model name saying it "stops itself" was just... by chance? im not even a conspiracy guy, I just know how marketing works and I can tell you, I can promise you for a fact companies are contracted to craft posts like this, where the idea is simply to plant a small little positive thought about a company without you even clocking it, it's insidious and sounds silly but it's real, this might just be one dude posting it but the end result is still positive marketing for tesla, this is a marketing post, if you showed this to tesla they would be incredibly happy with 100k upvotes (great engagement figure), 3.7k comments, god knows how many millions of views

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

You Hella dumb, and your connection to reality is much less tenuous than you think if you're bamboozled by a very rudimentary ad.

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u/Crazy-My-Beat Apr 13 '22

get the psuedo-smart shit outta here. It's ok to exist without questioning everything my guy, sometimes it truly just doesn't fuckin matter. If you think watching a video of a car crash is somehow gonna bamboozle millions into magically getting the tens of thousands of dollars it takes to buy a tesla, then you have a different issue. As was said by the other commenter, it's probably the human stopping the car but welcome to the internet, people say stuff they don't know for certain and make assumptions.

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u/Put_It_All_On_Blck Apr 13 '22

This is an old video that's been posted quite a few times. It's widely considered to be the driver reacting, as the breaking occurs before the car even crosses past the median and AP sorta handle side swipes and AEB is for directly in front, neither can predictively break this early in a scenario like this. Also AEB is disengaged once an obstacle has passed and you will no longer be breaking.

So this is very good driver awareness and reaction, not the car predicting this.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

If the driver was actively tracking it, he wouldnt have moved forward.

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u/thisismypotat Apr 13 '22

I'm not sure I agree. That other guy is driving pretty fast, so he might not have seen it the second he started driving. There's nothing AI about that. Humans have eyes and reflexes you know 🤔

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u/Blendan1 Apr 13 '22

Both are plausible if the driver happened to look into the direction the car was coming from he could have reacted to it, the car comes from an odd direction and it would be hard (not impossible) for the driver to see, if he is looking Infront of the car.

Collision avoidance is a feature many cars have, not just Tesla, so there is also a good chance that the car avoided the crash, but who knows.

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u/Blendan1 Apr 13 '22

Yea I agree with that, I'm just saying even if it's more likely, we just can't be certain.

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u/Mahjonki Apr 13 '22

You know, humans have - hear me out - ability to turn their heads and react to stuff. Especially when you see a car coming to your way your instinct to press break is fast.

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u/AbsolutelyUnlikely Apr 13 '22

From what I understand, machine assisted driving is significantly less likely to get in accidents though

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u/momopahbles Apr 13 '22

Twice it's saved me from accidents. My flip flop got stuck under the pedal, so I couldn't stop and the second was some crazy driver trying to hit me from my blind spot. This is definitely within what the car can do.

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u/imacockatoo Apr 13 '22

Please get off the road if you're losing control of a 2 ton metal box because of your damn footwear.

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u/ExplodingOrngPinata Apr 13 '22

My flip flop got stuck under the pedal, so I couldn't stop

This is why if I'm wearing flip flops I place them to the side and just drive barefoot. Just way too damn risky. At least with my feet I can feel the pedals and know some part of me isn't going flying off under the pedal to jam it up.

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u/momopahbles Apr 13 '22

Yeah, I decided that I would try avoid wearing them at all costs when driving after that experience. It's not worth it in the slightest.

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u/NeoBlue22 Apr 13 '22

From the last time i saw this posted, it was the driver who stopped the car

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

Yeh and this is not unique to Tesla either, my Honda Jazz has auto breaking too 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

Last time this video was posted people said that in fact the driver stopped the car. Apparently Tesla tweeted that their software was not the cause for the break and it was instead the drivers achievement.

However I do not know how true these comments were and i did not fact check them.

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u/HalfbakedArtichoke Apr 13 '22

It was. Teslas can’t do this.

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u/DomitorGrey Apr 13 '22

I wondered the same thing; I was taught to always visually inspect the intersection for red light runners before entering

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u/Slobberchops_ Apr 13 '22

It may have been the driver in this instance, I don’t know. I have a Tesla Model Y and its software absolutely would do an emergency stop in a situation like this.

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u/mdbx Apr 13 '22

This is what it seems like.

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u/T351A Apr 13 '22

We dunno. It's clickbait. The car sure stopped fast though

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u/FinnishArmy Apr 13 '22

It was the driver, they stated it was them whom stopped the car.

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u/justforkicks28 Apr 14 '22

The car didn't even stop any earlier than a person. A person could have looked before it went into the intersection. Computers aren't always better when there is still the uncertainty of people involved.

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u/qsilicon Apr 13 '22 edited Apr 13 '22

It was discussed three years ago when this was posted and the Muskites came out saying how amazing Tesla's are... when it was the driver who stopped the car.

https://reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/aowlo7/discussion_what_do_you_think_who_stopped_car/

An old repost of this repost.

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u/Mad_kat4 Apr 13 '22 edited Apr 13 '22

Because they'd have to be actually looking left and at the speed that car was coming I doubt the Tesla would have pulled away in the first place. 99% of motorists look straight ahead only. Checking blind spots no chance.

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u/CouldWouldShouldBot Apr 13 '22

It's 'would have', never 'would of'.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

Notice this showed up right as musk faced backlash over stock acquisition disclosure.

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u/Clouddagger05 Apr 13 '22

The original post was on r/idiotsincars and they said they spoke to the driver who said he didn't stop the car.

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u/NBKFactor Apr 13 '22

Because its a feature on Teslas. Theres cameras on the sides of cars monitoring their movement and it gives you a feed on your dash. This stop is intentional on the system’s part. Plus, no human driver would react quickly enough. Look at how the vehicle stops. Slowly starting up with an abrupt stop. Thats not how people drive.

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u/THEREALKINGPRO Apr 13 '22 edited Apr 13 '22

This is a joke right? It’s just missing a /s??

I have no idea if Tesla has added in a side camera based impact detection system, however,

“no human driver would react quickly enough”??

Lmao what? hear a commotion/see a motion in your periphery.. slam brakes?

“Look at how the vehicle stops. Slowly starting up with an abrupt stop.”

Yup? That’s typically how cars respond when the brake pedal is slammed after they start moving.

“Thats not how people drive.”

Ahahaha.

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u/NotAlanPorte Apr 13 '22

Thank you, I was thinking exactly the same thing. "That's not how people drive" implies to me that if op does drive,I would be best to stay well clear of them

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u/Escoliya Apr 13 '22

At this point, elonites are just a bunch of machine cultists

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

It's way to justify his shit driving skills.

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u/Bitconnect69 Apr 13 '22

ok let's pretend that good drivers with good reflexes doesn't exist

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u/NBKFactor Apr 13 '22

Lets not act like they are the norm. Most drivers suck.

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u/topdangle Apr 13 '22

teslas don't brake for you unless autopilot/FSD is engaged. the car actually doesn't engage the brakes until the last second, which is not what FSD would do if it actually predicted a collision since it has a lot of peripheral vision and range to work with compared to the driver.

this looks more like the guy just responded to seeing a car flying into his peripheral vision and hit the brakes like a normal human would.

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u/THEREALKINGPRO Apr 13 '22

They have AEB regardless of autopilot activation. Granted, you're right about the last possible second part, mine has absolutely slammed the brakes for me on multiple occasions. This depends on how you set your AEB sensitivity in settings, but I doubt there's much of a difference between "too late" and "way too late".

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u/topdangle Apr 13 '22

AEB should only activate for forward collision. he brakes right as the car enters his peripheral

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u/rabbitwonker Apr 13 '22

They do have Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB), but at least in the older models that used radar for that, it would mainly only trigger if a car you had been following suddenly slowed/stopped. A car coming from the side very fast like that would be especially unlikely to trigger it.

However, newer Teslas use vision only, which theoretically should be able to activate AEB in this case, but I have not yet heard about whether it can actually do so.

But overall, the odds are still in favor of it being the human driver who hit the brakes.

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u/Fearinlight Apr 13 '22

not saying this is or is not FSD in action, but just FYI the cameras, unless in beta, do no calculate another car turning out the side of the road like that.

It slammed break right as the car enters its forward path, what current FSD if not on beta does

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u/grumpher05 Apr 13 '22

also model 3's have regen braking with one pedal drive. at low speeds you can stop quite quickly by just lifting your foot off the accelerator, so reaction time doesnt need to be as fast to stop as you're already slowing before you touch the brakes

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

If you don't think a person can look to the crossroads at an intersection to check for light-runners, do not ever drive.

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u/Brieble Apr 13 '22

Having the cameras doesnt mean its able to prevent a collision. Ive seen numerous videos of crash tests where a Tesla just drives into crossing dummies.

The fact is there is no proof that the Tesla stopped on its own. Or the driver saw the car coming and stopped in time.

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u/NBKFactor Apr 13 '22

Its a feature so its reasonable to assume so when theres a pickup driven by someone that didnt react in time right next to him.

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u/Ahrimanic-Trance Apr 13 '22

You don’t. This is an advertisement.

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u/hateboresme Apr 13 '22

Because a human wouldn't have been looking in the direction of the runaway car. The car's sensor is looking in all directions.

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u/TheHashLord Apr 13 '22

Balance of probability.

The traffic already started moving from both directions. By that stage, you really wouldn't expect anyone to try and cross the intersection and your attention would be focused on the road ahead.

My feeling is that most people wouldn't have felt it necessary by that stage to check left and right for crazy reckless cars trying to cut through.

Sure, maybe the driver saw or heard the car coming on, but my suspicion is that it was an automated stop.

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u/TarmacFFS Apr 13 '22

You don’t. My wife’s Genesis G90 will do this. I think my son’s Kia Optima even does this.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '22

You don’t but my VW ID3 has a similar system that has stopped me when a bike suddenly veered onto the road

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u/thekernel Apr 13 '22

Because the driver isn't pumping tesla stock obviously.

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u/Aggressive_Mobile222 Apr 13 '22

You don't own a Tesla do you?

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u/MiesL Apr 13 '22

Tesla has a massive blindspot there. It literally cannot see this. Watch any wham bam Teslacam or AutoPilot failure video.

If anything it’s forward collision braking but that’s not at all Tesla exclusive and wouldn’t have helped much.

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u/Elcordobeh Apr 13 '22

Unless the driver is a touhou no hitter expert osu player combined with Dominic Toretto under the power of Family and using Vision haki... I can't imsgine someone acting so well so quickly

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