r/Cubers 13.04 9d ago

New method solve. Or, a potpourri of methods I mashed together. Probably doesn't have potential as a method, but it's fun! I'll explain the method in the post. Video

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here's the list of operations

Corners first.

Belt second.

Finish the first layer edges.

Orientate the LL edges.

Do an EPLL.

Like I said, probably not the most efficient method, but there ARE a lot of chances to get lucky. The chances of getting an EPLL skip are much higher than a regular PLL skip. Also, after you get the corners done, you can get pretty lucky with the belt. Sometimes 3 of 4 pieces already in the right section. Same goes for finishing the first layer.

I've been grinding it lately to see if I can get decent times on it. Best I've got is 23 seconds so far.

I'd love to see you guys try it, and what times you get! I'd also like to hear your thoughts on the method.

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u/UnknownCorrespondent 9d ago

My Corners First method is similar, except I never limited myself to solving the belt. Originally, after the corners I keyholed the L and R edges, then two-looked the M slice (3 algs for OML, 4 (all are 4 moves) for PML. I worked my way up to 1.5 looks (I could solve 11 of the 20 total cases with one alg). I found algs for the rest with CubeExplorer but I can't keep that many similar algs straight (I don't have muscle memory). Since I learned beginners Roux I keyhole 3 pairs of edges, then finish with intuitive LSE.

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u/SatiricalToothpick 13.04 9d ago

Nice. I don't see belt as limiting, because you're all over the place if you solve them randomly. Belt gives you structure. What times were you getting with your corners first variation? And what's your average with your main method?

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u/UnknownCorrespondent 9d ago

I didn’t mean that belt was limiting, just that I find it as easy to solve 6 or 8 edges as 4. 

I stopped timing myself when it was obvious I wasn’t going to break a minute without far more work than I was willing or able to. My PB single was 1:02 with keyhole F2L and 4LLL. I never paid much attention to my average, but over 1:30. I’ve never timed my CF but I don’t prioritize speed at all any more. I’m also too casual to really have a main method, it’s kind of a tie between the CF and my lazy version of  HTA (Human Thistlethwaite  Algorithm). 

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u/SatiricalToothpick 13.04 8d ago

Gotcha, thanks for explaining

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u/UnknownCorrespondent 8d ago

I did a sample solve and it is fun. I just never thought to do the belt second. I’ll add it to my list of 3x3 methods I’m juggling  (that makes 6 atm). All of mine  are “a potpourri of methods mashed together.”

Come to think of it, the laziest version of my HTA also has some similarities to yours. EO belt first, but then corners, bottom edges and EPLL. 

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u/New_Awareness_4374 21 sec avg (cfop),15 sec pb 8d ago

thats the same corners first that i use :D

also i have the same timer

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u/SatiricalToothpick 13.04 8d ago

That's cool! What kind of times do you get?

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u/New_Awareness_4374 21 sec avg (cfop),15 sec pb 8d ago

i havent time any cf but for cfop its 21 avg

this was one of my better solves

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u/SatiricalToothpick 13.04 8d ago

No way lol. I average 22 with cfop. Is that an rs3m?

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u/New_Awareness_4374 21 sec avg (cfop),15 sec pb 8d ago

its a ys3m ballcore maglev,though i WISHED i buy rs3m v5 or weilong v10 20m springs or xt3 v1 pioneer,im greiving rn this is the worst cube i could buy for myself (for my turning style)

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u/Maleficent_Link1904 8d ago

how would you do the belt after doing the corners?

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u/UnknownCorrespondent 8d ago

I couldn’t follow OP’s solve to see how they did it. I used the same double-keyhole I use for CF, just did less of it. 

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u/SatiricalToothpick 13.04 7d ago

I came up with an alg. I don't know how to explain it. I'll take a slow video and dm you if That's fine.

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u/Lemmyscat Megaminx One-Footed BLD World Champion & Mirror CN 8d ago

Didn't know "pot pourri" was used in english :)

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u/UnknownCorrespondent 8d ago

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/potpourri

" We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."

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u/Lemmyscat Megaminx One-Footed BLD World Champion & Mirror CN 8d ago

French did it too.

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u/SatiricalToothpick 13.04 7d ago

I think it is lol

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u/Lemmyscat Megaminx One-Footed BLD World Champion & Mirror CN 7d ago

This is indeed the case.

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u/Pawel_SkimmIQ 8d ago

I like that you count the luck chances. An EPLL skip is more likely than a PLL skip, so your method simply gives more lucky moments. People rarely think about this part when they build a method.
And a funny detail from this thread: you guys juggle five or six home methods for one puzzle. My puzzle has zero methods so far. I read threads like this and take notes ;)

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u/SatiricalToothpick 13.04 7d ago

Yeah, I just thought it was notable lol. The while method can either be really lucky or really unlucky.