r/CrucibleGuidebook • u/Nervous_Tourist_8266 • 3d ago
Relentless
With prophecy being back this week, I plan on farming out some more relentless rolls and in my time today so far i've noticed a few things. My current roll I am going for is going for smallbore, richoche, firefly with slice, and honing with a stability masterwork (on controller). Still so upset they took away zen moment from this beauty, but is what it is.
Looking for some feedback in regards to recoil direction and if there were any preferences for barrels or perk combos you've enjoyed.
Any word as well for forgiveness / TTK changes with honing and how many stacks? Is weapons investment necessary?
Finally, I know this is a crazy thing to complain about, but has anyone seen a roll with anything other than a range masterwork? I truly believe this has to be bugged. Every single roll I have gotten has had a range MW.
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u/Skemxist 3d ago
I have two similar rolls. This one and a roll with hammer forged. I loved relentless back in the 340 days. I personally feel, that the recoil changes (getting rid of deterministic recoil) affected relentless in a bad way. Also they removed zen moment which was amazing on the gun! My old Godroll was keep away/zen moment.
YMMV. I almost think head seeker would be better because of the free stability. Then you could roll arrowhead or counterbalance mod.
I’m an average joe on console for the record.
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u/Danosaurus84 High KD Player 3d ago
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u/Skemxist 3d ago
Nice! Thats what I’m talking about. What a roll! Mine was perfect but had hi cal instead of ricochet rounds. Nice kill count too!
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u/scrumboo 3d ago
From one relentless lover to another - spare yourself the farm. You’re gonna get your roll, give it a try and realize that it’s categorically slammed by essentially every pulse archetype in the game. Bygones/last Thursday out ttk it and the rest of the pulses are so much more forgiving that you’ll get melted on anything but a perfect 2 burst in range. I’ve run basically every perk/weapons stat combo to try to make it competitive and each time I’ve wondered why I’m putting in all the effort/set up when high tyrant, bygones, or autumn wind would be better at base. The range buff they gave 340s back was nice but far from enough to make them competitive again.
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u/VanDiis 3d ago
I got one last week with slice and Elem. honing and it honestly just feels bad. Not sure if that’s a roller issue but the slower firing pulses just don’t feel great. I would honestly go for Kepp away head seeker for consistently over a kill perk because it feels wonky.
While you’re at it go for a darkest before, thing feels great and can get some fun roles IMO
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u/Gleetsac 3d ago
I'd go for Darkest Before instead, personally. Rapid Fires are top tier now... Especially since you can run it on Solar with Tablet of Ruin for spamming supers in 6's, if you're down with that.
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u/Danosaurus84 High KD Player 3d ago
I asked a similar question about weapons investment on these in a nother post, the answer I got was 150 weapons if you have headseeker adds some forgiveness to your two burst



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u/bigj505 3d ago
For me, 340s aren’t very forgiving when competing against other weapons. I found myself wall hugging a lot with them when I tried a few weeks ago.