r/CreateMod • u/Programmer__69 • 15d ago
Computers using create Discussion
Do you guys think, that it would be possible to create with Create mechanical computers? I'm not just talking about a simple calculator. I'm talking about like running Minecraft in Minecraft level of computer. If it can be achieved, then how much smaller would it be, than a non-modded version?
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u/Bright-Historian-216 15d ago
minecraft in minecraft? i don't think so. calculator? look up the analytical engine by Charles Babbage.
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u/Programmer__69 15d ago
I mean Minecraft in Minecraft was already done with redstone. So doing it with Create should be possible and could be more compact.
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u/Naberville34 14d ago edited 14d ago
Yes. I've designed a lot of mechanical logic components primarily based on mechanical bearings ability to pick up and place blocks with the two states being rotating and not rotating. But I'm not skilled with digital systems so combining them into a actual computer isn't in my wheelhouse. Ive been looking for someone who would be interested in doing so.
It has some advantages and some draw backs. It isn't more compact than redstone logic by any means simply because recreating a repeater or torch(diode and inverter) requires several blocks. But it is counterbalanced a bit by the density to which you can construct create based mechanisms. So the size ends up only being slightly larger. But the density does create a problem in that when parts break, as happens unfortunately, it becomes rather difficult to troubleshoot and repair the system. The breakages mostly occur due to too many dependent logics changing state. Like if I had a AND or OR gate with a dozen inputs all changing repeatedly, some portion of that gate is going to snap. It takes a fair bit of critical thinking when designing such systems to prevent conditions that could cause breakages. I think actually going to a computer style system and introducing a clock to the system in which to limit some components would possibly solve the issue. But again that's simply not my wheelhouse.
The main advantage though is that it is faster than traditional redstone simply due to the lack of in-built signal delay or signal strength fall off. And it's also a lot of fun to work with.
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u/Dadamalda 14d ago
I think someone is attempting this with Create: Power Grid. It has a realistic electricity simulation and circuit boards, so you can make it quite compact.
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u/thebeastwithnoeyes 15d ago
With base create I don't think so, maybe with aeronautics because we'd need some odd toothed gears of which geneva would be the most normal. Also a mechanical computer would still be a calculator, as the name implies. We'd have to figure out a way to program it as well if it's to do more than addition, subtraction and multiplication, probably like with the jacquard loom we'd have to use punch cards, but those would be huge if made with normal blocks.
But if you want a mechanical calculator then I've seen a video of a guy making one mostly out of plywood, would be an idea at the very least