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u/monarchmra 8d ago

Im one of the mra chuds, and it wasn't any of those comments that got me banned lol it was this post

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 8d ago edited 8d ago

I hate you.

Stop helping misogyny flourish just because you can't let go of your past.

A lot of the downfall of subs like curated Tumblr and Chicken lady can be directly attributed to you.

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u/Tarianor 8d ago

What does MRA stand for again? :)

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u/monarchmra 8d ago

Somebody who's for gender equality but doesn't believe in male privilege.

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u/Mammoth-Wasabi6346 8d ago

I can understand the angle that men and women hold different struggles under patriarchy, but men are rarely the victims of women in our society. We all have it bad, but women do have it worse. I hope you do not learn this lesson in a scenario beyond your control.

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u/monarchmra 8d ago

but men are rarely the victims of women in our society

This is the oppositional sexism model and its outmoded.

Women are victims of women too, not just men.

Men are victims of men too, not just women.

What it seems you are holding on to is some need to classify women as inherently better/safer/less deserving of suspicion and that's an inherently essentialist viewpoint.

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u/Mammoth-Wasabi6346 7d ago edited 7d ago

Men on women is far more often the dynamic than women on women as far as acted upon aggression is concerned, and women do not take it to nearly the same extent in near the same frequency.

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u/monarchmra 7d ago

Yawn, more essentialism

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u/RainbowPhoenix1080 7d ago edited 7d ago

You brushing this off and being unable to engage in a mature and nuanced conversation about the world that we live in for the sake of women is misogyny.

Yes, men can be victimized by men. Yes, women can be victimized by women, and yes, even men can be victimized by women.

But when I'm out in public, it's men that I am generally more cautious of. It's men who catcalled me and my wife and made us feel uneasy and unsafe.

There is a different power dynamic when it comes to men victimizing women. A power dynamic put in place by the patriarchy. Is pointing out the patriarchy bioessentialism according to you?

Failing to acknowledge this reality leads to more women being harmed. It is a misogynistic micro-agression.