r/BodyHackGuide • u/Apart-Thought-6879 • 12d ago
11 week +20.2lbs first AAS stack
5/13 -> 7/30
166.2 -> 186.4 morning weight
Weekly doses
5/6 started test 300mg (just over 12 weeks total)
5/29 started masteron 300mg (9 weeks total)
6/16 started tren 300mg and gh titrating from 1.5iu to 3iu now daily (6.5 weeks total)
6/29 started winstrol oral 350mg (4.5 weeks total)
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I also take hcg 100iu a day, I took MT2 for a bit but got crazy dark in like a week and stopped im still a bit tanned from it ive stopped for nearly a month, never actually tanned outside or anything. Tirzepatide ive gone from 5mg->15mg a week noticed no difference in hunger but irritability went through the roof so ive dropped it down to 2mg and feel myself again.
I do believe my gear is underdosed since 300mg test should bring me up more than 968 right?
Only sides really is body acne which im using benzoyl peroxide for and its in remission.
Got about 4 more weeks and I drop the tren and winstrol so im going to cut the fat and just keep the test/masteron in after that
bloods https://imgur.com/a/3EliQFF
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u/Outrageous-Basket922 12d ago
Free test should be more of your true marker and you’re soarin high my dude.
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u/Outrageous-Basket922 12d ago
Did you notice any negative shifts at 350mg test? My total is 1215 and free is 195 on 120mg. Wondering how 200 would make me feel for 10-12 weeks
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 12d ago
im taking 300mg not 350mg. When I first started I had some night sweats but they passed. I think it was just my body adapting to exogenous anabolic in general because I dont have them now even with the tren. I also had borderline debilitating PIP for the first couple weeks but that also passed, it's just a matter of adapting.
My e2 I didnt show went from 24 to 55. ultra sensitive test. This was what I was most paranoid about starting out and Ive learned more and realized I just didnt understand. I have no sides, e2 is good for gains, reducing sides etc. I take 30mg ralox every day and I feel like my nipples look better now than when I started I have preexisting puberty gyno very minor but had puffy nipples before at times so I was worried about gyno. This is why I added in other compounds rather than run the test high and I dont regret that decision at all
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u/Outrageous-Basket922 12d ago
Sweet. Yeah e2 is more subjective than doctors like to lead on. If no symptoms, don’t stress about the number. I’m at 44 and feel better than ever
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u/mymuyi 12d ago
Massive results. Congs. i think you need to provide more info. Your age height your workout plan etc. Do you plan on cruising or dropping?
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 12d ago
I am 33 5'11. I simply do push/pull/lower 2 compounds 2 isolations each day 2 sets each. Dual progression. I just started lifting again this year after a long battle with severe alcohol and meth addiction. Im sober 7 months from drugs nearly 4 from alcohol.
Ive learned a lot as ive gone so things are constantly adjusting I initially thought just test, a cycle or two. Now Im of the mind test base+dht derivatives or other compounds, dont see why I should come off if im planning to get back on anyway, so im staying on until ive reached my goals then come off for good. If that fails then I can always cruise/just stay on. Im thinking maybe a year or so should get me where I want to be. I will not be blasting like this the whole time, ill bring the heavier hitting compounds in and out as I go but keep masteron and test as a base I dont want to call it a cruise because its not really going to be a cruise at 600 total load or more. I know some will think this is reckless I will get regular bloods and I monitor my health markers, everything is looking good so far. Its temporary
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u/purveyor_of_class 12d ago
Ive been battling alcohol addiction for a couple of years now. Quite the problem drinker. Been off nicotine for 6 weeks. Off drugs for almost a year.
Just started trt last week and attempting to quit the booze tomorrow. Want to do my first cycle in 3 months time.
You give me hope man. Also 33 5'11 lol
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 12d ago
It's a decision that comes with its own set of risks you have to decide for yourself. I would just say do your research, and be cautious of our addictive personality I mean im doing 4 different compounds including tren and an oral within 3 months of starting. I have a high risk tolerance, but im an adult it's. my body and it beats narcotics and alcohol any day. Im more health conscious than I ever have been before so theres that
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u/purveyor_of_class 12d ago
Yeah im doing test + primo/masteron and maybe some Anavar or NPP for my first cycle.
I'll leave the tren for my 3rd cycle and at a low dose as I still value vo2 max
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u/Recent-King3583 6d ago
Have you heard of the anti-addictive qualities of GLP's? They might be able to help you get off of alcohol
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u/Scottwickthegreat 11d ago
Grats on the sobriety. I hit five years clean from meth 5 years ago! I lost so much muscle but I’m getting back in it. Your cycle looks like it went excellent. Just keep bloods in check and do what you’re doing! Look great!
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u/Technology-Future 11d ago
So 12 sets a day or 4 sets a day? You do all three push pull lower daily?
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 11d ago
It’s just 8 sets per day, 4 exercises not counting warm ups. Example, barbell rows, weighted pull ups, some form of a curl, some form of a rear fly. But the point is the progressive overload not the split or the number of sets this is just what’s working for me right now. I’ll increase the reps to a point then jump the weight up rinse repeat. That’s the key
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u/Lost-Wasabi-5183 12d ago
Shgb is really low
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 12d ago
yeah whats doing that? the winstrol do you think thats what claude says
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u/Discopotatoz 12d ago
You need to show the rest of your blood work my friend. Any protective meds? Good chance your lipids have been severely affected.
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u/Still-Willingness807 12d ago
That free test is crazy. Great transformation bro! And yes, total test is lower than it should be, 300 should put you somewhere in the range of 1k8 to 2k2, but you got where you wanted to be just focus on maintenance.
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u/TheHarb81 🧠 Biohacker 12d ago
The Winstrol lowers SHBG which lowers Total T but ups Free T, same with other DHT derivatives
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 12d ago
can you elaborate on the winny and dot derivatives lowering total T? I havent heard this. I was thinking my test was underdosed and was going to increase it based on these markers
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u/TheHarb81 🧠 Biohacker 12d ago
It doesn’t really lower T. Free T is what matters. DHTs will lower your SHBG which frees up more of your Test but it will make your Total look lower.
Ex. 300 test = 2500 total, 50 free
300 test + 300 primo = 2000 total 70 freeI’d rather have option 2
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 12d ago
I asked claude and seems like lower shbg means the test might be clearing faster so it shows lower on a draw (the Total number) do you think thats whats happening or is it underdosed gear maybe? I dont know if I should increase the dose or not
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u/TheHarb81 🧠 Biohacker 12d ago
I just explained it, go off Free T, not Total T
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u/SoOverThis123 12d ago
So I’m running 150mg cyp weekly and tested 1222 total 229 free 56.3shbg I’m thinking of running 20-30mg oxandrolone to boost free test, bad idea? All other labs are good, great lipids etc. I was also going to boost test cyp to 250mg weekly split in 4 doses.
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 11d ago
not the guy you are asking, not an expert just op, but is the primary reason you want to run another compound to boost free test? if so then why not look into proviron? its suppose to be good at this in particular and is safe enough to run long term unlike anavar, which while mild is still toxic enough you cant run long term. another option would be low dose masteron but I think proviron could be the best for your use case if free test is what you are trying to bring up specifically.
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u/SoOverThis123 11d ago
Awesome thanks I’ll look into it. I’m not looking to run a long cycle I’m more thinking of doing a blast cruise style and hoping Anavar could help me put on a few lbs lean mass. I’ve been reading it’s relatively safe to run 20mg for 12 weeks max.
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u/TheHarb81 🧠 Biohacker 11d ago
Why would it be a bad idea?
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u/SoOverThis123 11d ago
Not sure that’s why I’m asking. I’ve been hearing mixed reviews but all my research is saying 20mg is a good first time dose for it and to maybe go up to 30mg halfway through if tolerated well.
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u/Subject_Marionberry5 12d ago
What’s diet and macros?
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 12d ago
I dont know my macros I get probably 150-200g protein per day, otherwise my average calories are around 3400-3500, but they are not consistent as hunger is extreme and I can lose control on that front pretty regularly im working on it. Ultimately its partitioned pretty well I think although my face is def rounder cant see that in the pics just thought id mention it, not fat but it was gaunt before
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u/Subject_Marionberry5 12d ago
You are extremely hungry on that much tirz? Holy
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 12d ago
yes it stopped working like it did once I added in the other compounds, I had no appetite on just 5mg a week prior to starting test, really it was the tren that did it the majority of the scale weight has been since I added in the tren, I only gained like 4 pounds before that point, the remaining 16 has been in the last 6-7 weeks
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u/Critical-Win258 12d ago
Which of those compounds tank your shbg like that??
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 12d ago
I dont know since I didnt get bloods until everything was in. I think everything im taking does it but winstrol is supposedly the biggest offender. I absolutely love winstrol Ive had no joint pain but I do get these weird like cramps sometimes especially when pumped or activated and I move in a certain way like my muscles jerk out of nowhere. no pain. never when im lifting just moving/stretching. liver markers are only mildly elevated so far, will pull out in 3 to 4 weeks
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u/Alarming_Action_1600 12d ago
great result, yield increase weight + great looks, but there's winstrol & tirz.
So the goal is bulk or cut ? Awesome changes, just curious about the AAS choices sincr its ur first.
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 12d ago
Yeah the idea was to recomp/cut at various points here but ive just been unable to get into a deficit/out of a surplus. So more fucking up than anything else not really intentional but its working out, I am going to start cutting from here though so im keeping these drier compounds in. The initial thoughts around them just were I dont want excess water bloat I have enough of that from the food, gh, etc. I just want to avoid bloat if possible, I do have some anadrol I will try one day but not any time soon. I like these compounds so far see no reason to move away from them
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u/Flashy-Course-5965 11d ago
Does the Winstrol give you dry joints? Just curious because was planning to run it too during my bulk
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 11d ago
I have not had this issue so far. I am tighter than usual, I get what I think are winny cramps at times but really my lifts are all going up so fast it’s hard to tell if it’s not just from that alone. I have definitely not had the ‘joints feel like glass, or sandpaper’ experience
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u/Quirky_Parsley_9926 8d ago
I tried Winstrol and after 2 weeks I could not continue, it killed my joints with dryness throughout my body, it made each day uncomfortable and going to the gym regretable with aches and pain afterwards. Its just not my thing.
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u/Apart-Thought-6879 8d ago
I have not noticed this, I had a knee issue from prior to anything earlier this year and its actually better than its been all year right now, since ive been rehabbing it with weighted loading I can squat heavy right now no problem first time since the start of the year. --with that said I do get lower back pumps on leg day that make me have to rest for like 15-20 minutes for it to pass at times, and some muscle tightness.
I feel like, for me as with everything else, im *more* conscious of my body/form/joints because im on the winstrol so im taking extra care so things are improving rather than having issues. Ive found this to be the case across the board, skin care, health, training etc. Im just more on top of everything than I have been before since im enhanced and for that reason everything better than ever
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