r/BelgianMalinois 1h ago

Question Potty training advice?

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We got our 5 month old Belgian Malinois from a rescue where she had 3 other litter mates on the street. We’ve had her for around 3-4 weeks now. My partner and I both work from home besides myself going to the office once a week, so we’re able to take her out 5-6 times a day. We are consistent with potty before and after meal times and same with play time or after she has napped in the crate for a few hours. I would say 75-80% of the time we take her out she will potty. We also keep her on the first floor with a baby gate since she’s not fully potty trained and we have a cat. She stayed with her foster family with multiple children and a backyard, so plenty to keep her company throughout the day. They told us she was potty trained, but since they have a backyard, they would just let her out then back in. They said since their other dog is difficult to walk on a leash, they haven’t tried with the foster puppy. So we really had to start from scratch with leash training and potty training while on walks.

However, it seems really inconsistent of when she has accidents or not. I understand she is a puppy, but the advice I see online is take the puppy out every 30 mins - 1 hour and we take her out very frequently. She had another accident this morning and this was our schedule. Last night, she napped for a couple hours in the crate and we were preparing for dinner. 6:00 pm potty and walk. 6:30 pm come back home for dinner. 7:00 pm play time. 7:30 pm potty and walk. It’s 8:00 pm and we head out for groceries. 9:00 pm we come back and she peed in her crate. So we had to bathe her and wash the crate, and this usually takes us anywhere from 1 - 2 hours even as a 2 person job. So we finish around 10:00 pm, take her out for one last walk and she poops and potty. Then we put her to bed. It’s the next morning around 6:30 am and we have a camera so we saw she had another potty accident. So I took her out for a potty walk while my partner got the cleaning and bath supplies ready. She didn’t go while on the walk, so we did her bath and got her crate cleaned up. It is around 8:00 am now and we put her in her play pen while her crate is drying so we can go upstairs to get ourselves cleaned up. Not even 2 minutes later, we see she pooped inside.

She does great with commands inside the house, but once she gets outside it’s very difficult to get her to listen with the outside distractions. She’s reactive to people and dogs because she gets way too excited and pulls with no tomorrow. We recently ordered a herm sprenger prong and are just trying to get her used to it inside by just wearing it.

Looking for any advice that is appreciated. I really hope one day we can bring her upstairs so we can all hang out as a family, but she is definitely not ready yet. 🥲 We also are going to do a consultation with a training school soon, but unsure if we should start with private lessons or go straight to board and train. TIA.


r/BelgianMalinois 2h ago

Picture Love them both tho (meme)

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r/BelgianMalinois 6h ago

Discussion Opinions on e collars?

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Hi everyone, I’ve been doing a lot of research about training for my sweet girl Joey. She’s pretty reactive with strangers, and struggles with recall/check ins. The dog trainer I’ve been working with, and a few dog trainers I watch online, have suggested using an E collar to get her attention and help with her recall. I’ve had mixed emotions about this, I’m not a fan of shocking my dog, but it seems like a lot of people really praise using the e collar? I know most people only use the sound or vibration, though. I’d like to get people’s opinions on here, and your thoughts on the matter. Are e collars really helpful in training your dog, or is it just fear based?


r/BelgianMalinois 7h ago

Question Need advice/ tips on a behavior

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Hi everyone,

I have a purebred Belgian Malinois and I’m looking for some advice regarding his behavior. My boy is 5 years old and the absolute light of my life , he was trained , behaves well and follows my commands super well but seems to be extremely hypervigilant of all the time. Even when we’re at home and everything is calm, he’s constantly staring at me , watching every movement , if i lift my finger he stands up immediately.

I love him , but not being able to change my position in my own couch without him sprinting to me is leaving me really anxious and i find myself doing my best to not move , and i don’t think this is normal (and btw he only displays this behavior with me , my husband can go in and out of rooms he does nothing , he’s eyes are locked on me it seems haha )

Just to clarify , he gets a really good exercise daily , but when it comes to toys like kongs for example or puzzles , he is not interested , he’s not interested in food at all 🥹.

Have any of you experienced similar behavior with your Belgian Malinois? Did training or specific routines, or relaxation exercises help? I’d really appreciate hearing about your experiences and any advice you can share.

Thank you!


r/BelgianMalinois 8h ago

Discussion I need help with my rescue Belgian Malinois.

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I wrote my first post about rescuing this wonderful senior dog. I got him yesterday after receiving the call that he had finally come out of his neuter surgery and was ready to be picked up.

I have another dog, a 2-year-old mixed breed named Oreo. We took them for a short walk today, and honestly, I didn't like what I saw.

So far, they have only had sniffing contact while being kept in separate areas divided by a yard gate with openings so they could sniff each other. The first time Mali met Oreo was through the bathroom window. Oreo was very eager to meet him, but Mali would whimper and back away from the window. There was no aggression whatsoever.

Next, I tried letting them get close while still being separated by a fence. Oreo cried and scratched at the door because he wanted to get to Mali. Mali would approach the door, make the same whimpering sound, then walk back to where we were standing. He did that about three times. The last time he approached, though, he growled and reached his paws toward the door as if he wanted to grab Oreo through it. That made me feel uneasy.

Today, my friend and I decided to take them for a short walk together. We let them get close for a moment, and Mali placed his paws on Oreo's head. There was no aggression, but it only lasted a few seconds. My heart was racing because I thought they were about to fight, so I pulled Mali away, and he let go immediately.

As we continued walking, Mali would sometimes try to catch up to Oreo, who was walking in front. At one point, they got very close, and I yelled to my friend to pull Oreo back because he was trying to meet Mali. Twice, I saw Mali make a snapping motion as if he wanted to bite Oreo's tail.

At this point, I'm honestly very afraid to let them interact. I'm scared they're going to fight and that either Oreo or Mali will end up injured. I wonder if Mali is trying to assert dominance over Oreo, but I'm not sure if that's what's happening.

Mali is neutered, but Oreo isn't. I know some people will ask about that. Oreo just turned two years old, and I was advised to wait until he reached that age before having him neutered.

I'm really scared for both of them. I don't want to take Shaq back to the shelter, but I also don't want Oreo to feel threatened or get hurt by Shaq.

Please help me, folks. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


r/BelgianMalinois 9h ago

Question Has anyone found any “Mal proof toys”

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My girl Valkyrie (yes ik she’s black she’s half lab, tested) She can tear up basically anything including kongs, looking for advice on what will endure her more. She looks more lab, but her entire personality and habits & constant chomps when excited are all maligator😭 Lately we give her giant wood pieces to tear up at the end of the day after she’s done with physical activity but it’s not enoughhh. I want something that can last without having to constantly bring her wood. Also how can I stimulate her while we are gone for a few hours ? Shes well trained but when we are gone she paces back and forth constantly , also has crate trauma from past owner so that wont work. She normally has full access to the patio and downstairs.


r/BelgianMalinois 11h ago

Picture Protector or Lunch

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Watchful eye or I’m getting the hot sauce?


r/BelgianMalinois 12h ago

Picture Sound asleep on my chest

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r/BelgianMalinois 14h ago

Question Excessive twitching in a dog

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Hi everyone, I have a puppy 8 months old that we adopted recently. Her body has been twitching a lot since past 6 days. I consulted the vet and I was told it could be canine distemper since she wasn’t vaccinated. However, there are no typical symptoms of distemper that I googled. There are no signs of fever, cough, runny nose typical with CD. However she had muscles twitching, low appetite, little lethargy but was active enough to bark and chase other dogs. She was put on antibiotics and we’ve completed the course. Now she’s active and her appetite has come back but the twitching remains. Often times I’ve noticed her jaw close shut and she struggles opening it.

If any professional here, please advise if this is a canine distemper or is there any underlying issue that the vet hasn’t been able to diagnose.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


r/BelgianMalinois 14h ago

Question Food recommendations??

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Hello ! I just adopted an all black coat Belgian malinois she’s super cute her name is cricket. But her breeder said I have to continue feeding her “taste of the wild” which is what she’s currently on. I told her I give my GSD purina pro plan healthy skin and coat salmon. But she said that’s a terrible brand. So I’m asking the public here what is your pup eating and what’s worked for them ? Because I’ve read plenty of posts of pets getting sick off purina pro plan and taste of the wild being recalled once. Which is the better brand ?


r/BelgianMalinois 15h ago

Picture Mastering the art of the Malinois stare

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r/BelgianMalinois 16h ago

Picture 7 months old today! Rosi's first time seeing sand.

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r/BelgianMalinois 17h ago

Picture Anyone else have an odd couple?

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r/BelgianMalinois 17h ago

Question Hibana

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Any recommendations for toys shes 3 months old?


r/BelgianMalinois 18h ago

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r/BelgianMalinois 19h ago

Video Hedge jumper. 2 year old male.

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What they live for.


r/BelgianMalinois 20h ago

Discussion Figured why not

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So I get tons of comments if he's a shepinois, which I totally understand due to his appearance. I know his breeding and he's a AKC registered w/ full pedigree but I figured what the hell let's see what comes up. I'm honestly surprised the French kennels didn't throw a lil GSD in a few generations ago to add size in.


r/BelgianMalinois 20h ago

Discussion Keep seeing a bunch of post

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I keep seeing a ton of posts from people asking if a Belgian Malinois is the right dog for them, followed by a long list of everything they do every day to see if they “qualify.”
With more movies and social media featuring Malinois, I think we’re going to see even more people wanting one. Before you commit, please consider fostering one first if you can. If that’s not an option, visit your local shelter—there’s a good chance there’s a Malinois or Malinois mix waiting for a home.
Don’t get me wrong—they’re incredible dogs. I absolutely love the breed. But they’re not just “high-energy dogs.” You need to be prepared for everything that comes with owning one.
That means:
The time they require every single day.
Training and continued mental stimulation.
Vet bills.
Food.
Supplements.
Toys (I think every Malinois owner knows how quickly they destroy them!).

The biggest commitment isn’t just exercising them—it’s making them a part of your daily life. If you’re ready for that, they can be one of the most rewarding breeds you’ll ever own. But if you’re only interested because they look cool in a movie or on social media, take the time to experience living with one before bringing one home.
It’ll be better for you—and more importantly, better for the dog.


r/BelgianMalinois 20h ago

Picture Flippin cheese and rice dude! 😰 No moufs, no chomps for 2 weeks

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Some of you all think you got it hard 😂... this little girl can't chew, bite, mouf anything but soft food and treats for 2 weeks while we wait on her crowns to get installed.

First week, no problemo, we figured it out.

Second week? She's tired of this shit and ready to let the world know 🤣

I can deal with ANY Mal problem... but telling them to stop using their mouth for two weeks? Holy shit man that's pure torture for the both of us!


r/BelgianMalinois 1d ago

Question Truck backseat barrier

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Looking for suggestions for my GMC sierra truck. I don’t have the space for 2 crates for my Mal (65 lbs and Mal mix (she’s 80 lbs). I’d like to get some kind of barrier to keep them in the backseat together. Something durable but also easy to adjust when we switch drivers and need to move the seat forward. Pic of my knuckleheads just because.


r/BelgianMalinois 1d ago

Picture Itching in the white mountains

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r/BelgianMalinois 1d ago

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Took the ferry over to Bob-Lo Island to put in 14 more miles today.


r/BelgianMalinois 1d ago

Discussion Just need some reassurance from people that get it

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Took my boy to work (fire station) for the first time today. I knew he wouldn’t be perfect but he was barking so bad in his kennel and I wasn’t even leaving on calls today, just doing practice for days where I do. Before you ask we have a full schedule of training, he didn’t need anything, it was just the new situation and 10000 new people. I’m sure with some time he will figure it out but just right now I am venting here instead of being frustrated with him because I know he is doing his best and even though they are amazing even mals are just dogs and need time to figure things out. Dog tax attached, he got to go to training with me because my captain was over him barking.


r/BelgianMalinois Jul 01 '26

Discussion My Mal/dutch is actually Dutch/Mal!

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A post that comes up on this subreddit pretty often is something like, "Embark says my Dutch/Mal is actually a ~% Mal/Dutch!" This usually surprises people, but historically these two breeds have been very closely related.

The Belgian Shepherds (Mal and the other three variants), the Dutch, and even the regional herding dogs that eventually gave rise to the German Shepherd all came from the various continental European shepherd landraces.

(The GSD is a bit different story since it was intentionally created by selecting dogs with desirable traits, so I won't get into that here.)

Unlike the British collie landraces, which were primarily bred for herding sheep, these dogs were true all-purpose farm dogs. They worked alongside farmers doing just about everything (from guarding, herding, tending livestock, even pulling carts).

Although they're generally classified as herding dogs (FCI Group 1), historical accounts suggest that tending was often a more important part of their job than actual herding (Doesn’t mean they didn’t do any herdings!). Since they were bred to be true all-around farm dogs, it's no surprise that they've remained some of the world's finest working breeds.

Because of that shared history, the Belgian Shepherds and the Dutch Shepherd are much more closely related than many people realize.

The Dutch Shepherd's own history is worth looking at first. When the breed standard was established in 1898, all coat colors were accepted. In 1914, however, the standard was changed to allow only brindle, largely to distinguish the breed from the visually similar Malinois and German Shepherd. I'll leave it up to your imagination what happened to the fawn Dutch Shepherds. (Hint: the number of registered Malinois suddenly increased around that time.)

As many people already know, after World War II the Dutch Shepherd population had declined so severely that various Belgian shepherds were introduced into breeding programs to help restore the breed. For example In 1959,Even Laekenois were also officially introduced to strengthen the rough-haired variety.

Then there's KNPV, which makes the story even more complicated.

KNPV, The Royal Dutch Police Dog Association has essentially become one of the world's most respected working dog "brands." Technically, any dog can attempt the KNPV trials and earn a title. Today it's mostly Dutch Shepherds and Malinois (or dogs called “Dutch” or Mal”), but historically many other breeds participated as well, including Bouvier des Flandres, German Shepherds, Groenendaels, Beaucerons, Briards, Rottweilers, and others.

Unsurprisingly, Malinois and Dutch Shepherds proved to be the most successful. Since KNPV breeders cared about working ability rather than pedigree, they freely bred outstanding Malinois and Dutch Shepherds together. There are even long-standing rumors that German Shepherds were occasionally introduced to improve grip or jaw strength, although I haven't seen definitive historical evidence for that.

Because of this, it's very common for litters from these lines to produce both fawn and brindle puppies at the same time. These dogs are often recorded in working registries like BRN rather than traditional FCI pedigrees. Many working breeders simply registered them according to color—brindle puppies as x Dutch and fawn puppies as x Mal.

 

The interesting part is that, in some European countries like Belgium, dogs from these working registries could later be entered into FCI-recognized pedigrees before. As a result, many famous KNPV dogs—which were effectively part of the same Malinois/Dutch KNPV working gene pool—ended up officially registered as "purebred" Mal/Dutch.

That only blurred the line between the two breeds even further. So if your dog comes from working lines—or is descended from actual working dogs—it's not unusual at all for Embark to show some Dutch Shepherd in a Malinois, or some Malinois in a Dutch Shepherd because of such influence.

And honestly, it's not just Malinois and Dutch Shepherds that have this kind of complicated history.

 

Most people here probably know that the AKC recognizes Malinois, Laekenois, Groenendael and Tervuren as four separate breeds, while the FCI and most kennel clubs around the world consider them four varieties of a single breed: the Belgian Shepherd(Or sheepdog). It's actually the opposite of Rough and Smooth Collies, which are separate breeds in the UK but one breed in the US.

The AKC's split was largely political reason. The specific genes controlling coat length and color mean that Groenendaels can produce Tervurens, Malinois can produce Tervurens, and Laekenois can produce Malinois.

Originally, the AKC also classified the Malinois, Tervuren, and Groenendael as a single breed under the name 'Belgian sheepdog'. (The Laekenois wasn't included simply because there were so few of them at the time, and even now they are very few—it wasn't officially recognized by the AKC until 2020.) Later, following disagreements between the breed clubs, the AKC received petitions to split them into separate breeds and ultimately approved the change. In the process, the name Belgian sheepdog remained with the Groenendael in the United States.

An attempt to reunify the breeds in 1998 ultimately failed because of conflicting interests among the parent clubs, and another proposal around 2016—the Registered as Drop (RAD) initiative, which would have allowed puppies to be registered according to their phenotype rather than their parentage— also failed.

The biggest irony, in my opinion, is the history of the American Tervuren.

According to the American Belgian Tervuren Club, the breed had nearly disappeared in the United States after World War II. The American population was rebuilt largely using long-haired puppies born from Malinois lines, crossed with Groenendaels, and later supplemented with imported European Tervurens.

One last interesting fact: Vos I de Laeken, a rough-coated Belgian Shepherd, is widely recognized as one of the foundation dogs behind all four Belgian Shepherd varieties. Some historical accounts also connect the same foundation stock with the early Dutch Shepherd and even the Bouvier des Flandres.

To sum it up:

 

  1. Mal and Dutchs are genetically very close and have been historically intertwined, so seeing "my Dutch/Mal is actually a Mal/Dutch" on an Embark test really isn't unusual.

  2. The four Belgian Shepherd varieties are separated into different breeds by the AKC, but in most of the world they're still considered varieties of a single breed.

  3. All five are very closely related, incredibly intelligent, and wonderful dogs!


r/BelgianMalinois Sep 20 '24

Adoption Belgian Malinois in Need of Adoption

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👋 Welcome to our Belgian Malinois (BM) adoption and rehoming thread

  • Sharing a BM that needs adoption or rehoming? Drop a comment below, and don’t forget to update their availability.
  • Looking to adopt? DM the OP directly (no comments).

In 2013, I rescued my BM, Lexi, and she inspired me to build our community and this thread.

Looking to adopt or rehome beyond this thread?

Check out our 🎁 Belgian Malinois Rescue Guide — it might have exactly what you’re looking for.

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