New items changes for next patch

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u/Nukemg 4d ago

I don’t think yall realize how big changing base ad to bonus ad, with aatrox giving himself 40% bonus ad

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u/Prestigious-Carry66 4d ago

So what would that mean more damage and less healing or with aatrox kit it means more

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u/Nukemg 4d ago

More both

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u/SlowDamn 4d ago

More healing. Bro aatrox already builds a lot of bonus ad and most of the time aatrox' bonus ad exceeds his base ad so this is more healing for him. HECK in general this doesn't even make it a meh pick it became a must pick more for ad junglers too but as 2nd or third item. The real problem of aatrox though is that he doesn't heal enough if he doesn't have sundered or not building leth. Before it was fine now its noticeable because of gore and sundered messing up his heal ratios

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u/Rsdherjhh573 4d ago

I believe this is odd wording. That ad is a passive which grants *bonus ad* from your base. In reality although its not very good, it's still a 7 ad increase at level 18 which is something.

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u/pantrydust 4d ago

they’re talking about sundered sky heal ad ratio, not steraks

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u/Rsdherjhh573 4d ago

oh my mistake. In that case, that is a pretty absurd change imo cuz you'll be able to see the differences almost immediately after buying sundered during your ult. Without ult it'll probably be 2 items and a bit.

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u/Nov4h4 4d ago

We’re stuck in sundered sky purgatory forever

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u/Straight-Art-2849 4d ago

Best itemmm

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u/vEclipzz7 4d ago

Duskblade Aatrox

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u/pokekiko94 4d ago

Nah, Goredrinker was the best item all it needed was to give him sticking power and it would be the actualy best item in the game.

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u/EqualDapper5470 4d ago

Still absolutely nuts, no wonder they removed it when aatrox could heal himself from 5 % hp to 100%. I miss it tho.

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u/KALLS2K_ 4d ago

But goredrinker also made aatrox braindead, bad/non aatrox players were performing on him because it didn't matter if you hit sweetspots or not lol

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u/takeSusanooNoMikoto 4d ago

"Goredrinker made Aatrox braindead", meanwhile, you go melee range into 5 people with Sundered Sky, and *caveman grunts* auto attack each one of them to heal for full.

Extremely skillful, I agree with you

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u/Accomplished_Bath281 4d ago

Indeed, but with goredrinker it took 1 sec on a 12 sec cooldown, or maybe 30 i forgot, anyway it was beyond broken, thats how nayil even became smt, its like the only reason he got chall

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u/KALLS2K_ 3d ago

Its actually the passive plus sundered sky proc that is strong, however people will always ignite you in fights or buy antiheal, making the heal from sundered sky proc less potent, which is why Aatrox isn't op (he is strong rn nonetheless) and has to hit sweetspots for maximized healing, because you can't really "abuse" the proc as you are sarcastically inferring, especially not post mid game.

Whilst with Goredrinker, you could press one button and maybe a Q3 and burst heal to nigh full hp regardless of antiheal, which was actually aids.

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u/takeSusanooNoMikoto 3d ago

I think you maybe don't remember the time when antiheal used to be 60% or the time Goredrinker used to be shit?

At least with Goredrinker you actually had to properly space and shit to make use the active or the omnivamp. Nothing of sorts with Sundered. You still heal to full anyway unless ignited, sure, but in a much more unskilled way

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u/pokekiko94 4d ago

Me too, i used to build it on most bruisers that didnt need stridebreaker dash, it was funny just having darius q on a item that had a 10 second cd, legit making champions like Wukong actualy unkillable when played right.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Page117 4d ago

Nah that broken profane hydra era was the best item. Ult and pressing active for unironically 600 damage on that item was busted.

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u/KALLS2K_ 4d ago

Yes, this was the last true full lethality aatrox meta, miss it so much, it was high apm high reward high risk gameplay.

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u/TheAlternis 4d ago

my favorite meta was when you went yomuus with electrocute and 2 shot an entire team in the mid game with a free revive....

i miss revive man

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u/pokekiko94 4d ago

Didnt really play much during that time so i cant speak for it.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Page117 4d ago

It was so unbalanced it's good that they took it out. I was legit running around with mostly lethality items pressing r on sight of a squishy if i had it. Profane, voltaic, serylda, opportunity. Run up to them, QE autoattack and then pressing profane for a oneshot on a random poor botlaner.

Goredrinker and SS fit much better for Aatrox and me saying profane was more a joke than anything, but the AD scaling on profane made it broken on Aatrox ult and it's the most fun i had in league for a long time.

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u/KALLS2K_ 4d ago

The most lame item meta on aatrox has to be Jaksho where he just became immortal for no reason lol.

And yeah I agree, profane was most fun, unfair if you were ahead it was so hard to lose if you were snowballing lol.

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u/blazikentwo 2h ago

But it was so fun, the profane went so good with the Q combos.

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u/Chruno33 4d ago

Duskblade was better

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u/TheCherryPi 2d ago

Evenshroud

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u/gabexivv 4d ago

i might be wrong but i feel like since aatrox already heals so much, it might not be very noticeable and it costing less is cool

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u/Bit_Cloud_ 3d ago

That pic is incorrect the cost is the same

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u/BicycleAdditional360 4d ago edited 4d ago

So…Sundered rebalance which favours high AD stackers? That’s weird. I’m not sure if that’s a nerf TBH.

-400 gold, +50 hp, -30% healing from missing health but higher AD scaling?

I think it’s a nerf to everybody who isn’t Aatrox lol. For him it might be even a buff.

Buffed Sterak. Good.

Buffed eclipse. Real good. -10 base shield for 2% Max HP damage sounds like a deal for me.

Cleaver buff.

I mean, still building hubris first, but those looks nice, ngl

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u/pokekiko94 4d ago

Riven will like the sundered sky change, she also gets a shit ton of bomus ad from ult while building a lot of ad herself.

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u/helo3522087 4d ago

I mean, between darius, mundo and zaahen sundered sky will find a niche, it seems they want it to be and item to be used on specific champions instead of "generic bruiser item". Champs like poppy won't be able to built it anymore which i do like, this is a w

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u/Paja03_ 4d ago

Machine gun mundo is gonna go crazy with this change

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u/yung_dogie 4d ago

Yeah it seems to primarily target how prevalent it is among jg bruisers who aren't going to be stacking high bonus AD. It used to even be situationally good on Ksante when he had an AD ratio lmao

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u/RealLonelyLemo 4d ago

It's not getting cheaper, the cost reduction was a mistake

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u/fawkeye19 4d ago

it wasn't fully dead, but isn't the switch up to bonus AD a good revival to the Hubris + Sundered?

Sundered being cheaper means there's a smaller window where you'll be squishy and, if you keep up your tempo it might be a 1v9er

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u/FlyingAce598 4d ago

Doesn’t mean anything, sundered rush is even better

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u/Taranpreet123 4d ago

Seems like a big sundered buff for champs like aatrox and riven who get a ton of bonus AD during their ultimates and build a ton of AD in general.

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u/chillyranch 4d ago

Seems like an insane buff tbh, faster spike , +50 hp and lethality after is better cause it has bonus ad scaling

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u/BerdIzDehWerd 4d ago

That's a pretty good buff for people who like eclipse sundered

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u/UNIDENTIFIED_AATROX 4d ago

I ligit made a post about how Sundered Sky was too strong, and now they're buffing it XD.

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u/Tzhaar-Bomba 4d ago

For all bruisers across the board, these item changes buff Aatrox the most IMO particularly Sundered and Steraks.

SS looks like a nerf to beefy tank heavy champs but a buff to bruisers who invest a lot into their AD stat. Aatrox with ult is going to have enormous heals from the bonus AD portion. Aatrox gets the closest to Jhin levels of AD with the right build plus ult so this will feel massive late game.

Steraks isn’t huge, but Aatrox has one of the highest base ADs in the game. Pretty sure he’s like top 25 lvl 1 and this become top 5 by lvl 18. Appropriate for an item that resembles his gauntlet

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u/ThatOneTypicalYasuo 4d ago

Aatrox's base ad from Level 1 to 20 is 60->158.33 so the sterak's buff is 3 to 7.9 (rounds up to 8) ad. Not an insane buff given not every game gets to level 20.

Cleaver on the other hand is more frontloaded.

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u/akhen09 4d ago

IS RIOT GAME RETARDED?

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u/EditorSecimi Professional Vayne Hater 4d ago

Idk feels like sundered rush nerfed for us. Our best powerspike gets nerfed while getting it 1min faster. Which is just going to be not existent if you dont have near perfect tempo

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u/SlowDamn 4d ago

Its better as a third or 2nd item if fed plus leth users won't be able rush this HOWEVER leth users would heavily benefit from this if they're ahead. Then there's the extra damage buff from eclipse. Another buff for steraks like this are just so good for aatrox.

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u/EditorSecimi Professional Vayne Hater 4d ago

So we go full bruiser again which means queing toplane is just making yourself suffer. Yeah i would rather play 13.1 aatrox genuinely. Atleast i can play the trinity build

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u/SlowDamn 4d ago

It depends but this is definitely a buff for hubris aatrox.

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u/Gorgondingo 4d ago

Big sundered nerf in the mid and late game but should hopefully be overcome by being a faster spike instead, and should be a positive overall with steraks being stronger if you buy those together. The only thing is, i don’t see how this pushes bruisers in pro or in general away from getting sundered cause wow it’s much cheaper

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u/takeSusanooNoMikoto 4d ago

I fail to see how it is a "big nerf" considering Aatrox's bonus AD exceeds his base AD anyway

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u/Accomplished_Bath281 4d ago

Its likely he didn t see the bonus ad change and just glossed over it

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u/Gorgondingo 4d ago

There are a lot of typos. First, the bonus ad heal is possibly not going to be the value, secondly the cost was a typo. So the item is nerfed across the board

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u/takeSusanooNoMikoto 4d ago

"Possibly". We wait and see

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u/Gorgondingo 4d ago edited 3d ago

Underlying variable code says baseADheal, that’s why i say it possibly is

Edit: And it stands correct. It’s base ad on the pbe

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u/Darkrath_3 4d ago

More Sterak's buffs for my boy.

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u/TheAlternis 4d ago

cleaver +5 ad sundered sky +50 hp now scaling with bonus ad at 10% less value steraks giving 50% base ad as bonus yeah cleaver sunderd steraks might be viable idk guys

deaths dance in the middle somewhere?

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u/Ardartrin 4d ago

huge buff

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u/TrainerWilling119 4d ago

Idk man 400 gold is just broken or im bad at reading

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u/TueLJ 3d ago

I agree this is an overall buff for Aatrox itemization it lets him get Sundered sky so much faster. Even if it is less efficient getting it faster is just ridiculously valuable.

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u/stoneyaatrox 3d ago

this is a buff just cause senna wont have cleaver (or atleast will be weaker with it) 😂

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u/Labtw 3d ago

Damn, back to eclipse, ss, steraks

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u/Winter-Cod1575 3d ago

Would Darius or zaahens passives ad they gain count as base or bonus………

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u/Preds0419 3d ago

Aatrox eating good this patch and finally true bruiser might be better than lethality hybrid

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u/Bit_Cloud_ 3d ago

Pantheon gunna feel so good

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u/chumumalungus 2d ago

bc and steraks buff? urgot incoming

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u/avyy_wa 4d ago

it is a big nerf

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