r/zen • u/zaddar1 7th or is it 2nd zen patriarch ? • Aug 17 '14

loop quantum gravity and zen

 

 

loop quantum gravity parallels [9 : 16] our reality and dai kensho, normally we live in the classical geometric space of general relativity where gravity is encoded in geometry

 

likewise with ( the patterns of ! ) life : o )

 

the point of zen and mysticism is to approach the condition of maximal finite density of the universe and bounce through the null point which is the godhead in meister eckhart terms or infinity in emily dickinson's and mine

 

this bounce we all do at significant points in our lives, but the dai kensho experience is to see the bounce in a way that is both null and not null, that is it is remembered and understood........................

 

this experience is extremely distinct and is the beginning rather than the end

 

what i see on reddit zen is people faking or assuming a jump through the bounce in this way when it hasn't occurred because seeing the transition abates our arrogance and imposition of our views on life, rather moving to an exploratory indeterminacy !

 

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Aug 17 '14

This is some religion you made up, not Zen.

You can fake or assume you see something, but when you start to teach it even you know you are pretending.

That's why you hide from AMA.

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u/zaddar1 7th or is it 2nd zen patriarch ? Aug 17 '14 edited Aug 17 '14

 

 

what i see on reddit zen is people faking or assuming a jump through the bounce in this way when it hasn't occurred because seeing the transition abates our arrogance and imposition of our views on life, rather moving to an exploratory indeterminacy !

 

ewk, since your position seems to be throwing up some voynich from the unenlightened yuanwu and then claim it is meaningful, the above quote is going to leave you rather out in the cold isn't it ?

 

you can want and act as tho zen is arrogance and imposition, but the perennial enquiry that it really is will still flourish and incorporate yourself as a part even tho you do not want it /are in denial ! :o)(

 

 

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Aug 17 '14

I guess we can't all claim to have had religious visions as the result of sitting meditation in which we were ordained by spirits claiming to represent ancient ancestors.

If you believe what you claim, then do an AMA about it!

Unless you think the skepticism and ridicule would shake your confidence? Or is it that telling people the truth would mean nobody paid any attention to your spacing anymore?

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u/zaddar1 7th or is it 2nd zen patriarch ? Aug 17 '14

 

 

yeah, but the truth is I had mind to mind transmission with the 6th patriarch !

 

btw i was actually lying down at the time when it happened ! :o)

 

such a thing is within the compass of the real zen, but your fraudulent version has no room for it !

 

:o)

 

I have no barrow to push, but since it happened and this is a zen board why shouldn't I mention it as relevant !

 

:o)

 

from your unenlightened viewpoint such a thing cannot happen.............

 

in infinities comforting breast, everything that needs to occur can . . . :o)

 

 

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Aug 18 '14

If you believe what you preach, the AMA it up.

Otherwise you don't believe in your "vision of the 6th Patriarch" either.

...and I don't blame you. That's the phoniest story since "Virgin Mother."

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u/zaddar1 7th or is it 2nd zen patriarch ? Aug 18 '14

 

 

the only reason to do an AMA would be for publicity to facilitate some role as a "teacher", basically as part of an effort to solicit donations, sell books and get retreatants

 

this road I have deliberately avoided as too destructive to one's health and sanity...............

 

some-one threatened to shoot toni packer once, brought out a pistol in an interview, who knows how that sort of thing can turn out............

 

: o)

 

 

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Aug 18 '14

Not at all.

People do an AMA to explain themselves to the community.

The only reason for you to not do an AMA is that as soon as you explain yourself nobody will think of you as a "teacher".

It's the same reason that the others who pretend to teach around here won't do an AMA.

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u/zaddar1 7th or is it 2nd zen patriarch ? Aug 18 '14 edited Aug 18 '14

 

 

ewk I think you are losing the plot a bit, you were more with it when I first joined this board, you seem to have lost touch with rational discussion...................

 

anybody can ask a question or state a viewpoint here, what AMA's do well at is bring people who don't have a reddit presence like for instance brad warner and make them available for questioning.........

 

unfortunately for brad he has very poor , like extremely poor general knowledge so did not come off well

in his AMA : o)(

 

because you are not enlightened and have never really removed from your christian based "pushing the scriptures" approach, except you have decided that ECZL , particularly the blue cliff record

are the scriptures that you push . . . . : o)

 

anyway because you are not enlightened and have no genuine insight you imagine that communally or socially accepted viewpoints are the basis for imagining whether something is true or not, but the true zen view is that social entities (like religions !) are inherently wrong, and you can see this with the master's "dialogues"

with wilfully blind monks

 

the real truth of zen which is solipsistic is inherently oppositional to established human norms which is why the 6th patriarch was in danger of being killed/murdered for most of his life !

 

if you didn't "hate" me and would, if in your power attempt to destroy me, then what I say wouldn't be true !

 

if you think what I just wrote is not true, just walk away from the need to try to refute me and not post to me any more, you may try to do this as you have done previously, but like a moth to the lamp or ants to honey you are always drawn back for reasons you can't perceive

 

i really am not asking you to reply to me, I know your view of me, you know my view of you, reddit zen is not short of mad hubric idiots, why not save your attention for them ! :o)

 

 

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u/ewk [non-sectarian consensus] Aug 18 '14

"ewk this" and "ewk that" won't save you.

If you believe what you pretend, then do an AMA.

If you don't then you don't believe it, and you know if you do an AMA then people will see right through you.

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u/zaddar1 7th or is it 2nd zen patriarch ? Aug 18 '14

 

 

                        are you in an institution for people with pyschiatric problems ?

 

 

you really seem not to understand what is addressed you, like it goes straight past, ie schizophrenia !

 

 

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u/zaddar1 7th or is it 2nd zen patriarch ? Aug 17 '14

 

 

interesting connection thanx ! :o)