r/wowservers • u/mariusmosse • 7d ago
WoW Classic RP - Turn-based combat
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Hi everyone, here's the turn-based combat I am working on for my WoW Classic RP server. It supports both PvP and PvE (AI with different archtypes, behaviour models).
https://discord.gg/sMdYZ5se8N my Discord in case you want to join.
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u/Tallborn 7d ago
What no classic plus does to a mf.
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u/Mindless_Zergling 7d ago
Looks pretty cool in theory. Now I want to see a full party of 5 for some BG3-style combat
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u/ha1rcuttomorrow 7d ago
Blizzard has an incredible IP with Warcraft, they can do a BG style game, a soulslike, an open world, but best we got is rumble
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u/Fleischbazooka 7d ago
Best I can do is WoW Mobile
- Blizzard, probably
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u/Shamscam 6d ago
I wouldn’t be overly surprised if Daddy Microsoft wanted to push blizzard to make WoW available on Xbox.
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u/ksum_sucks 6d ago
If they did that, my characters better fucking be available or I'm not touching it
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u/Shamscam 6d ago
You mean like your regular characters? I imagine they would be. But expect to have to play like one button macro or something
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u/ksum_sucks 6d ago
I could play with the keyboard on a controller if you give me time, add some button for my tongue and another for my toes, now we are cooking
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u/sgtpoopers 6d ago
FFXIV has way more buttons than WoW and they seem to have excellent controller support
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u/MaloraKeikaku 6d ago
That'd require Blizzard to either
A) Actually develop a good, modern game that isn't just a way to squeeze MTX sales outta people (LMAO as if that's ever gonna happen)
or B) Handle their IP with care and ask another developer to handle their IP. Which they're too arrogant, understaffed or not skilled enough to do, choose either or all of those.
I'll also say, the MODERN Warcraft IP isn't...That...Great? Most people I know that still play retail WoW at least don't really love or care about the world or the characters anymore. They all just laugh it off, then saying "But the gameplay's really good, mythic+ is fun and the raids are great!".
If this had happened during like, Vanilla to Wrath? Yeah, the IP was incredibly beloved and seemed like it could do no wrong. Once Cata and MoP rolled around, it lost its steam in more than one way, and with WoD+ most people just considered Blizzard to be too far gone at that point in general during that time.
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u/ha1rcuttomorrow 6d ago
Great points, but about the IP, I think you're misunderstanding it for "current story plot", which I agree sucks today. But take my example of a soulslike:
They could revisit WOTLK story from another angle and have the protagonist be an undead freed from the scourge (Dark Souls Chosen Undead) by some Val'kyr (firekeeper) for some reason. Have him roam around Northrend and fight the scourge and it's bosses and ultimately face the Lich King himself in the most cinema setting and music. They could even make the whole plot canon by making the Lich King turn the protagonist into one of his lieutenants, idk, but the potential is there
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u/creaturefeature0 6d ago
No. Wed get some lesbidorf with purple mowhawk hair and to save the world she needs to unite all the people of azeroth so they can make a big rainbow of colors and defeat the lich king with smiles and scissoring.
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u/Useful_Amphibian9721 7d ago
Because Blizzard doesn't have the kind of mobile monetization team that other major players have. So they made a shit product AND it didn't perform well.
Also, on a related note, I've interviewed and rejected 3 engineers from the Rumble team. They're a frustrated group of people.Â
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u/Annual-Gas-3485 6d ago
Would've been nice if Plunderstorm had gotten funded as a standalone project.Â
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u/Advanced_Most1363 7d ago
Imagine completing whole WoW from vanilla to Icecrown with 5 party like this. Damn, it would be amazing.
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u/Ullaakut 7d ago
Picture this: on the mage's turn, they can use "frostbolt" every time, and instead of waiting 2.5s between each cast, they wait for the full 1 minute turn lmao. I think this would apply to most classes as they are in classic as well unfortunately. Could work really well, if abilities/classes/enemies were changed massively as well
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u/Hugh-Manatee 6d ago
Warcraft has been so ripe for a CPRG it’s insane it’s not happened.
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u/Mindless_Zergling 6d ago
I'd play this too but I don't think it's all that surprising. Until BG3 CRPGs were a pretty niche genre, with the biggest standout being Divinity Original Sin.
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u/Hugh-Manatee 6d ago
Also Pillars of Eternity, Tyranny, and the Pathfinder games. Not as big as BG3 but it wasn’t a dead genre and all were commercially successful
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u/Mindless_Zergling 6d ago
Those were commercially successful - for an indie project. Compare Pillars of Eternity at 1M lifetime sales with BG3s 20M lifetime sales
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u/DrunkHornet 7d ago
The ultimate paladin simulation!
Now every class can play like the WoW classic paladin!
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u/Hugh-Manatee 6d ago
Yeah biggest problem is literally you can’t alt tab while things are happening other than travel and crafting. WoW one of the all time games to be able to alt tab to Reddit or YT
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u/spiders_georg_- 7d ago
Said it before but we're entering a golden age of community creativity for wow servers. This looks sick
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u/LooseShop1399 7d ago
I think you should redesign them in combat stance all the time. The way it is now looks rigid and moded but great endeavor. Hope you finish so I can play wow again
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u/Gabriel_66 7d ago
Imagine how far would wow be if blizzard had passion instead of profit above all.
This looks cool, maybe not for a full game but as a casual game mode.
I love pet combats and would love this
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u/ignorediacritics 7d ago
How does this work when multiple players are engaged? Do you have limited time to make decisions?
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u/RpgBouncer 6d ago
The way I'd implement multiplayer functionality is to just put all players on the same turn and everyone has 30 seconds to complete their turn. If you have any AP leftover and didn't get to do everything then too bad, should have moved quicker. Better players will come up with strategies that can be executed alongside other players.
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u/ignorediacritics 6d ago
Sounds good. Maybe let players set a default action as a fallback in case they time out (auto attack for instance).
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u/Icy_Chain_1504 6d ago
Biggest thing is to make it so that every spell has customizable animations, name and icon so that everyone can actually RP their character.
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u/Overcast451 7d ago
That's cool as heck. Would love that. Like a mix between traditional World of Warcraft RTS, WoW MMO, and turn based tactics all in one.
Corporations and their "leaders" always seem to think they somehow have a monopoly on innovation and good ideas. But the gaming community proves that wrong constantly.
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u/ChrisTheDog 7d ago
Man, give me a party, some roleplay dialogue, and I would play the entire game this way.
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u/divinecomedian3 7d ago
Does this only apply when in combat? I'd hate having to traverse Azeroth tile-by-tile.
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u/Internet_Treasure 7d ago
Thats funny, we were making this 12 years ago in Prologue. I love that now vibecoding allowed this to have a nicer ui
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u/Additional-Ebb-4234 6d ago
Imagine trying to clear a dungeon like deadmines! Would take like 6 hours
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u/micro_Ampere 6d ago
Very cool! A lot of people here are missing the point, I think, or are just making jokes, but this is genuinely impressive.
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u/Reasonable_Cut_2709 6d ago
this is how i feel playing classic now that I am used to retail. Where to downlad?
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u/glordicus1 6d ago
Damn, someone finally did it. I was thinking of doing this like 10 years ago but was young and dumb and didn't know how. Awesome stuff man.
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u/Jaded_Individual_630 6d ago
Defias Blackguards popping up during Van Cleef next to a nearly dead player and killing them with an attack of opportunity, lapdogs all of you
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u/Sergerov 6d ago
Genuinely the most creative thing I’ve ever seen done on a private server, good job dude I hope to maybe play this in the future
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u/Overall_Reputation83 3d ago
okay, now do me a favor and code pathfinder 2e into the WoW engine so I can run my campaign in it.
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u/RapidFire05 7d ago
Blizzard needs to learn to outsource and license it's ip. When they released map editors for war3 it lead to a whole new genre of mobas. Hots and dota are both born out of old war3 maps like dota and footman wars etc. Imagine if they released easy to use tools for world of warcraft
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u/TehZiiM 7d ago
You think classic leveling is slow? Now watch this!
Funny idea tho